Holy shit ! ...

The PROPHET III card is 650$ without tax !
That's 747.50$ CAN

My heart just stopped..
Oh, there it is.. the tick's back.

Anyhow, does anyone have any idea where I can get this card for much lower !? I don't care *where* it comes from..

why do you need it now . i'd say wait a couple of months till the price drops

That's what I was intending on doing anyway but if there is an alternative (street-wise, niuk niuk http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/smile.gif ) to getting one I'm all for it.. http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Sol, what speed comp do you have?

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34th SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division Landstorm Nederland

"Meine Ehre heißt Treue"

I will wait a year or until I really need it.

Why not just buy a GeForce 3?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Recycled Spooge:
Why not just buy a GeForce 3?

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That's what he's talking about, Prophet III...

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lol

Don't laugh.

AMD K6-2 500mhz
192megs pc133 ram
20g hdd + 3.5g hdd
NVidia TNT2 M64 32megs
SB Awe64

Wanna know what my 3dmark2001 score was??!
440..

1024x768, 32bit, 24bit z buffer and compressed textures in DXTC format 1 & 3.


440 for fucks' sake.. PATHETIC.

Solidus, a Geforce 3 won't run any faster than a Geforce 2, on your computer. I have run into the same kind of problem with mine. You'd need an 800 or 900 mhz, to even begin to take advantage of the extra power of the GF3.



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34th SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division Landstorm Nederland

"Meine Ehre heißt Treue"

Well I won't be stuck with a pathetic framerate while playing games.

The rest of the hardward can wait...
But I sure as hell can't play MOH:AA with my current configuration / video card.

And I know some people will say "well, the min. requirements blah blah.."

Min. Req. don't allow you to play the game comfortably : you will be incessantly distracted by choppy framerates.

But I digress : I really need a new card. If anyone knows where I can get a GREAT deal on either a GF2 Ultra or GF3, please let me know.. I can't frag you if I can't play the game ya know LOL

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SoLiDUS:
Don't laugh.

AMD K6-2 500mhz
192megs pc133 ram
20g hdd + 3.5g hdd
NVidia TNT2 M64 32megs
SB Awe64

Wanna know what my 3dmark2001 score was??!
440..

1024x768, 32bit, 24bit z buffer and compressed textures in DXTC format 1 & 3.


440 for fucks' sake.. PATHETIC.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SoLiDUS: I used to write a hardware column for pcgamers.net (ask BS if you don't believe me) if that means anything to you; but Wolfshook hit it right on the spot. The bottleneck of your 3D performance right now is your CPU.

That said, your TNT2 is also outdated, but I would upgrade the CPU first for three reasons:

1) It's cheaper. Even if that means you will need to buy a good mobo.

2) It will also improve your day to day appz performance, as opposed to GeForce3, would your windows load up faster with a GeForce3? Not likely...

3) The original nVIDIA GeForce 256 press release explictly said that it's designed for 3rd generation CPU, whatever that means; but it's a known fact that those graphics cards work best with P3/Athlon class CPU. You will probably notice little to no improvement with a GeForce3 if you stay with your current CPU. I won't get a GF3 unless I have a P4...

In other words, dude, don't get the GeForce3, you will regret doing that, upgrade the K6-2 500 first. Hope that helps.

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I disagree for 2 reasons :

1- I "WILL" see quite a difference when playing my games if I have a high-end video card. GPU's on the Geforces' means less strain on my processor, which will be able to do much more for me that way. WIN-WIN.

2- It wouldn't be much cheaper: a 250$ processor + the appropriate motherboard, another 200$, would be cheaper, but not by much..

Even then, having a good processor / mobo combo won't change dick with my TNT2. So priority --> Vid. Card.

Of course, I don't necessarily need a GF3, I just plan ahead.. http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by SoLiDUS (edited June 28, 2001).]

1) I doubt it. I don't have any data on how a GeForce2/3 perform on a K6-2, but I'm not keen to find out from a disappointing fellow MohAA forum guy either http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/smile.gif

2) Still, it won't improve your computer's overall performance (cept photoshop, if you use it at all). A new CPU/mobo will.

Oh well, it's your money http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/biggrin.gif Good luck bro. Again, I do have some experience with these stuffs...

P.S. let me know what happen after you buy your new graphics board, I really am curious.

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Macintosh rocks... no I mean the fruit.

[This message has been edited by SPF-15 (edited June 28, 2001).]

www.guru3d.com

go there and read all you like about the pros and cons of computing and hardware.
The CPU is the bottleneck of your system as SPF-15 said, you will see little change in performance if you get a GF3. You really need to upgrade your CPU before you buy a highend video card. You cant count on the GF3 alone to do all the work. The games will still more than likely have poor performance. You need a good CPU just as much as you need a good Video card.

Personally, I would disregard ANYTHING SPF says, EXCEPT computer hardware...

http://www.pcgamers.net/ubb/smile.gif

You guys are very funny..

If I DO get a cpu/mobo first, the TNT2 will be the bottleneck and my games will still look like shit.

If I get a good video card now, my cpu might not perform as well as if I had a 900 with the card, but you can be DAMN sure the games framerate would be great and pushed to the limit.

Why you insist on contradicting me, I don't know.

It's like saying I need to change all of my houses' electrical system when the only real problem is the fucked up fridge !

*sigh*

[This message has been edited by SoLiDUS (edited June 29, 2001).]

In regards to your 3rd reason for upgrading cpu-mobo first : 3rd generation processors = P3 and Athlon / Thunderbird.

4th generation would be the AMD Palamino and Intel P4.


It might work better with these generations of processors because of .. say .. new instructions for optimal gaming conditions, but it does not at ALL mean the video card would perform like shit on a 2nd generation processor : it simply means it was optimized for 3rd gens..

Just like music sounds much better on high quality speakers but also sounds nice on normal speakers..