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ratboy 03-04-2003 01:01 PM

my internet connection!!!
 
I am in the UK, and I live in an area where broadband is not yet available. I can not play online because of my very poor connection. I have heard that there is a 'bot' patch for some games where the computer takes control of enemies, allowing you to play multiplayer off-line. Can anyone tell me if this is possible please?
THANKS

Exatox 03-04-2003 01:28 PM

You can get a satellite connection. However, i do not know of any providers.

Bazooka_Joe 03-04-2003 03:01 PM

Yes, jv_map recently released a patch for MOH to allow you to play bots in MOH rather than real players.

pest 03-04-2003 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exatox
You can get a satellite connection. However, i do not know of any providers.

Satelite connections provide incredible download speeds, but the latency is unplayable. The pings are worse than dial up.

Exatox 03-04-2003 03:58 PM

yeah i can see that hapenning, as the signal has to be bounced, etc. But it is still a way for high speed internet tho

doomsday2002 03-04-2003 05:40 PM

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":bf769]Yes, jv_map recently released a patch for MOH to allow you to play bots in MOH rather than real players.[/quote:bf769]
heard alot bout this map.....joe you got any links? think thats what hes after, and id be interested to look at it.

dooms.

Bazooka_Joe 03-05-2003 09:34 AM

[quote=doomsday2002][quote="Bazooka_Joe":88824]Yes, jv_map recently released a patch for MOH to allow you to play bots in MOH rather than real players.[/quote]
heard alot bout this map.....joe you got any links? think thats what hes after, and id be interested to look at it.

dooms.[/quote:88824]

Sure. [url="http://home.student.utwente.nl/a.b.vrijkorte/freebrief/mohaa/bots/"]http://home.student.utwente.nl/a.b.vrij ... ohaa/bots/[/url]

Much tnx to jv_map and his team from the .map website.

ratboy 03-05-2003 02:16 PM

ok, d/l the bot map going to try it soon. I think it is a great shame that there is no patch so you can do this with all maps! but then again I am a bit of a pc novice so I would not know what is involved in the creation of such a patch. Thanks to you all..

ratboy 03-05-2003 04:05 PM

I cant seem to get the map to work! I unzipped both files to the main folder but it would not show up. can anyone give detailed info on how to do it. THANKS

Old Reliable 03-05-2003 04:09 PM

http://www.modtheater.com/forum/showthr ... eadid=6057

Matrf 03-05-2003 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exatox
You can get a satellite connection. However, i do not know of any providers.


satellite = 56k

except you get good donwlaod speed. But the upload speed still the same as a 56k and the lantency is hight like 56k .


I heard about internet in electricity line in Uk ..... don't know if its good .

Old Reliable 03-05-2003 05:41 PM

isnt satellite really expensive?

Matrf 03-05-2003 06:51 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":fe8f3]isnt satellite really expensive?[/quote:fe8f3]

same price as cable or dsl i think . (here , canada)

Crpl. Crunch 03-06-2003 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrf
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exatox
You can get a satellite connection. However, i do not know of any providers.



satellite = 56k

except you get good donwlaod speed. But the upload speed still the same as a 56k and the lantency is hight like 56k .

What about wireless internet? My ISP just recently announced that they will have it. Will it be just as slow as 56k too? I know it won't beat cable but is it worth the extra money each month?

Matrf 03-06-2003 10:35 AM

I heard some wireless isp . This is 2 way . It can upload and donwload so the speed should be awsome for ping and data.

Crpl. Crunch 03-06-2003 10:42 AM

Sounds good! Even if it is not as good as cable it'll be better than my damned connection that averages 46K!

Ydiss 03-06-2003 10:53 AM

The only options in the UK for fast internet are cable (Through either NTL, Telewest or Blueyonder - all subject to availability) or ADSL through BT (that's through your phone line not your electricity line - hehe not sure where you got that idea from).

In order to get ADSL you need to be quite close to your local exhange and if you don't live in or around a city this is likely to be unavailable.

Satelite just is not worth the hassle, or cost.

Ydiss 03-06-2003 10:59 AM

Oh, one other option, although you'd have to be fairly rich and desperate to do this, is BT ISDN 64k.

This should be available in most areas of the country but it costs tons (£40 a month line rental) and you still need to get a free ISP on top of this (on average this will set you back a further £15 a month - if you want a decent connection).

While this frees up your phone line and still allows you to get pings of around 60-120 on UK servers, it's not particularly cost effective.

Matrf 03-06-2003 10:59 AM

I am not talking about dsl .

I can't find where i read about electricy and internet but i found this one :

http://www.powerlinecommunications.net/ ... orking.htm


If i remeber , UK already have isp on power line . I don't know where in UK.

Ydiss 03-06-2003 11:49 AM

Ah, well that technology is so new I'd not heard of it. At any rate it's not available to consumers right now (and even when it is, I can't see it being cost effective at least for a few years).

Interesting concept but deffinitely not an option for UK broadband at the moment (You can't even sign up, from what I can see).

I'll bet any money it's going to be available for business pipelines first, then (if it takes off) companies will start to offer residential services.

It certainly looks good, but that 30mbps upload and 100mbps download will almost certainly be limited to around 256k and 500k if it was available on mass-market residential (and at a similar cost to ADSL).

Thanks for pointing it out, though... Might be worth keeping an eye on.

I'd love to know how uploading through your electricity line is gonna be possible, though... I wasn't aware I was sending electricity back to the power station :)

Matrf 03-06-2003 12:26 PM

well look , it is realy done in Uk and UK is the first to do it . So yes it is possible .


You don't send back electricy . The data move in electricty , anywya i don't know much about physic.

Ydiss 03-06-2003 12:35 PM

I don't doubt it isn't possible, I'm just saying it isn't available yet for residential use.

It is being tested in some European countries. That's what the website you linked said.

Ydiss 03-06-2003 12:35 PM

Sorry, edit that as: I don't doubt it is possible...

Ydiss 03-06-2003 12:38 PM

Seems like it's available in Germany at least:

[link]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1251617.stm[/link]

I'm trying to see if it's available in the UK.

Ydiss 03-06-2003 12:39 PM

Oh lord... Having no edit key is annoying...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1251617.stm

Tiwaz 03-06-2003 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrf
well look , it is realy done in Uk and UK is the first to do it . So yes it is possible .


You don't send back electricy . The data move in electricty , anywya i don't know much about physic.

Well, actually, you do send back some electricity. Information through copper cables is transported by superimposing waves on carrier waves (modulation). Waves in copper cable = electricity. At least, most of the time. You can also have sound waves through copper/metal, but I will not dive any further into physics.
Anyway, the clue is that the electricity you use for electronical devices has a frequency of 50 Hertz. So there's a lot of other frequencies left to use. Same as for instance cable, some frequencies are used for television/radio, others are for internet (I believe uploading in the lower band around 50 Mhz. and downloading in the upper band around 900 Mhz. and the TV/Radio signal in between).

I know they are testing internet via powerlines in some countries, among others Germany, Spain and The Netherlands.

DeadBolt 03-06-2003 01:14 PM

I must warn all of you...the bots are extremely stupid (almost as bad as Bf1942 bots...) and theres no score or anything. I would play single player before playing this again....lol

Tiwaz 03-06-2003 01:21 PM

Edit:

Captains log, supplemental:

I don't know who developed this technique, what I do know is that it has been around for quite some time now (it's not only useful for transporting warez and stuff, biggrin: , it has a broad applicability). The first country to test it for residential use was Spain, if I remember correctly.

Zoner 03-06-2003 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiwaz
Captains log, supplemental:

Far be it for me to call someone a nerd, but that was pretty geeky, dude. biggrin:


Zone

Tiwaz 03-06-2003 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner91
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiwaz
Captains log, supplemental:

Far be it for me to call someone a nerd, but that was pretty geeky, dude. biggrin:


Zone

Well, now that you mention it, you may be right. Too late now though, biggrin: , I guess the It-sounded-good-in-my-head explanation doesn't count here eh :)

Old news:This forum needs an edit button.

I definitely need one, that's for sure.

Zoner 03-06-2003 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiwaz
Old news:This forum needs an edit button.

Now, that's something I agree with...heh heh.

The Preview button has become my best friend.


zone


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