new SH patch is out
 

http://www.3dgamers.com/dl/games/medalo ... to_215.txt

saw this over at PMOH...here is what is fixed. oOo:

I see they removed the butt-scooting thing. Isn't that the reason most players hate SH?

Besides slow performance for the maps... (and maybe, secretly, that they can't lean-strafe? biggrin: )

Quote from the txt file: "The 'butt scoot' should no longer be in the game".

Should? Either it is in the game, or it isn't!?! Have these asshole's actually tested the damn thing?

[quote="Bawbag!":49c34]Quote from the txt file: "The 'butt scoot' should no longer be in the game".

Should? Either it is in the game, or it isn't!?! Have these asshole's actually tested the damn thing?[/quote:49c34]

Don't count on it. I am very anxious to see if this patch will make me like Spearhead, biggrin:

does it fix the hax??? cuz thats what ppl whine about!@!!

Any links to download it?

Ty but just read another topic with links.

wow, it almost makes me want to reinstall SH oOo:

Thanks for the updating aa.com wintersforge cool:

I have links up on my site http://www.mohadmin.com

I gotta say that really fills me full of confidence, the "buttscoot SHOULD be removed". While theyre at it they shoulda removed that damn culling system as well, i so love it when a sniper is partially behind a fucking fence and because of that the culling system assumes hes behind a wall hence i shouldn't be able to see him so it doesn't draw the character model.


While they were at it they coulda made the new sniper rifles someway useful to use, i dont like having to fire 2 shots with an svt 40 or a g-43 to do the same job a springfield does in 1 shot.

Some new weapons woulda been nice to fix the sides properly, give the brits the scoped enfield and the bren gun to make their weapon selection a bit more authentic and give the russians their proper weapons, then again this is ea im sure those new "features" will be added in an expansion will which further bollocks up spearhead. oOo:

Gerard, didn't you see this line as being one of the fixes in that .txt file?

-Bad player popping through fence textures

Yes textures not models, its not a matter of them clipping through fences they also disappear when partially behind boxes and shit like that. Its a certaintyy the "culling" system still has the same flaws as the previous patch.

I always thought it was the manvis they used in the maps.

Nope its the culling system, what u dont see the engine doesn;t draw, however whatever genius coded it obviously made it think that crates with gaps and barbed wire fences etc are solid objects, so when you should be able to see a part of someone through a hole or whatever u cant because as far as the engine is concerned theyre outta your sight so the model isn;t being drawn.

And as for the butt slide, it is seemingly gone but i couldn;t help but notice players now seem to stand and slide a bit when hit. oOo:

Most of the time I get sniped by a guy that I can't see due to this culling problem, yet he can see me. Irritating.

Oh, and incase you were all wondering. Yes, you can still join 2.11 servers alongside 2.15 servers. Good news. biggrin:

Oooh, sweet!

I was wondering that myself...was gonna wait 'till aan upgraded before I upgraded my copy. Guess I don't have to!


Zone

Yeah it is sweet. Used the in-game browser and all the 2.11 servers showed up fine. Smart decision to make the patch compatible with the previous one.

But
 

Since the two versions are compatible, doesn't that mean that all cheats available on the net can still be used?

I mean hey, a butt-slide is annoying, but I like 10 sliders over 1 cheater.

And I noticed when playing Spearhead, I couldn't shoot through some of the fencing...although they look the same as in MoHAA. In MoHAA you could shoot through the holes. Is that fixed? I found it to be quite annoying (I know this has probably nothing to do with the culling system, but I remembered when I saw MPowell's post about fences/culling).

Off-topic: Ah well, It'll still suck I guess. As some previous posters said, they weapons aren't well balanced; since when is a (s)mg a better sniper rifle than a sniper rifle is? The maps aren't balanced either. They favour camping a lot more than MoHAA. I mean, Unterseite? Bazaar? Come on.

Aaargh. Hope the next expansion is MoHAA-like.

I believe that the problems with masked textures such as fencing, is how they setup the the alpha channels and/or surfaceparms of the files. Probably wasn't high on their "todo" list. Eitherway, we are lucky to get a patch for SH. Not saying we should accept anything over nothing, but with the list of fixes, we can now enjoy SH alittle more. biggrin:

Amen.

Let's hope they didn't break more than they fixed...heh.


Zone

For once, I don't think they did. biggrin:

I opened the majority of the files that came with 2.15, and they did correct alot of things that were wrong with 2.11. Too bad they couldn't do the same for AlliedAssault. Lost cause I guess.

But what about cheating? Is it still possible?

It will be fixed when the next expansion pack comes out.

What was that? Oh, right.

Looks like they fixed sv_pure too i hope. I run mods but i'm willing to give them up for a cleaner game.

Yeah they fixed the MG-42, holes in maps, the butt-slide, and SV_PURE. Hopefully the working SV_PURE will help in killing some cheats.