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Jedi Marksman 03-17-2003 07:30 PM

Military terms of enlistment. . .
 
I've always been curious. In your respective countries, what are the terms of an enlistment and how long is basic training?

In the U.S. :

Army : 9 weeks (4 year enlistment)

Marines : 16 weeks (4 year enlistment)

Navy : 4-6 weeks (4 year enlistment)

Air Force : 6 weeks (4 year enlistment)

Vance 03-17-2003 08:29 PM

Well, in the US Army its always 9 weeks, and you can go 2-6 years active duty. Im not sure about the reserves.

03-17-2003 08:31 PM

kinda off topic, but this kinda reminded me of something i just saw, I was looking at the USNA physical test to be accepted and it was a lot lower than i had thought:

40 Pushups in 2 minutes
65 situps in 2 minutes
1.5 miles in less than 10:30

i thought the requirements were much harder than that, but oh well...

Milla 03-17-2003 08:32 PM

Actually the Marine Corp bootcamp is 13 weeks training (12 weeks of ACTUAL training forming/ processing doesnt count as a week)

Vance 03-17-2003 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
40 Pushups in 2 minutes
65 situps in 2 minutes
1.5 miles in less than 10:30

40 pushups = easy
65 situps = easy, but it hurts your back after 40
1.5 miles = Incredibly easy, I was doing 8 minute miles when I was 7.

03-17-2003 08:38 PM

yeah i know, i was like, crap, i could get in USNA easy, but then my dad said that you have to run 6 minute miles to pass once you get in and i don't think i have ever run a mile faster than 7 minutes

EasyTrick2.0 03-17-2003 09:45 PM

USNA, waht is that, navy academy? cause that is different form those other guys. When I go I am eithe rgoing marines infantry, or Army AB. Can't make up my mind.

Shroom 03-17-2003 09:47 PM

[quote="EasyTrick2.0":10719]USNA, waht is that, navy academy? cause that is different form those other guys. When I go I am eithe rgoing marines infantry, or Army AB. Can't make up my mind.[/quote:10719]

LOL Army AB hmm I wonder who influnced your ways..... evil:

Simo Häyhä 03-17-2003 09:49 PM

in some countries (italy, finland) military service is required for evry able bodied citizen for a short period

EasyTrick2.0 03-17-2003 09:55 PM

Yah shroom, you and Slider... fuck... "Miller" keep changing my mind left and right. I reckon one day I will figure it out, and if not, I can always toss a coin.

Milla 03-17-2003 09:56 PM

Who gave easy the idea of the Marines evil:

03-17-2003 10:24 PM

dont u get shot if u go awol?

Vance 03-17-2003 10:38 PM

[quote="EasyTrick2.0":0b448]Yah shroom, you and Slider... fuck... "Miller" keep changing my mind left and right. I reckon one day I will figure it out, and if not, I can always toss a coin.[/quote:0b448]
AIRBORNE. Its sooo much more fun.

82nd AB team clearing a house in Afghanistan:
[img]http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/albums/82nd_Airborne_Division/82nd_more_55.jpg[/img]

101st AB in a cave near Spinboldek (sp) LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL M4!!
[img]http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/albums/101st_Airborne_Division/d_10103.jpg[/img]


Those are the most popular Airborne divisions. For comparison, look at the sorry Marines and their M16A3's biggrin:

[img]http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/albums/marines/z_usmc10.jpg[/img]

(Who REALLY wants to do that....seriously.)

03-17-2003 10:50 PM

marines are better. u ge tto sit near the front lines and wait for the surrendering troops

Coleman 03-17-2003 10:55 PM

I know when we had some German exchange students for their jazz band come over to our school, they said that they were required to enlist and serve in their armed forces for a couple years i think.

Sergeant_Scrotum 03-17-2003 10:58 PM

in canada the survival training for the army is they give you your pay cheque & tell you to live off of it. i think its tougher than any american training courses.

Shroom 03-17-2003 10:59 PM

Yeah in Germany I belive you need one year of service. You never can be ready when some crazy Nazi clones Hitler and he needs new soldiers... hake:

Coleman 03-17-2003 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shroom
Yeah in Germany I belive you need one year of service. You never can be ready when some crazy Nazi clones Hitler and he needs new soldiers... hake:

lol, those kids were SOOO nice. I wish they were over here in America cause i want to talk to them again. They played this one game that sort of looks like "knife fighting" in the music video "thriller". It's soooo funny to watch. Instead of trying to slash eacother, they go and try to grab the other guys crotch and smack it! LOL. They looked so funny when they played hahaa, i am laughing right now from just thinking about it.
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Coleman 03-17-2003 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shroom
Yeah in Germany I belive you need one year of service. You never can be ready when some crazy Nazi clones Hitler and he needs new soldiers... hake:

lol, those kids were SOOO nice. I wish they were over here in America cause i want to talk to them again. They played this one game that sort of looks like "knife fighting" in the music video "thriller". It's soooo funny to watch. Instead of trying to slash eacother, they go and try to grab the other guys crotch and smack it! LOL. They looked so funny when they played hahaa, i am laughing right now from just thinking about it.
"

11 Bravo 03-17-2003 11:51 PM

I know how it works, because I'm signed up for it.
huuuh, US Army Infantry BCT is 13 weeks long in Fort Benning, GA + one or more weeks at reception battalion. Enlistments range from 2-6 years. I recieved the extra option of Airborne School upon completion of BCT. Plus, garanteed assignment at Fort Bragg (82nd). Marines BCT is also 13 weeks, and divided geographically where you attend it. West US goes to San Diego, East goes Pharris Island SC. All Marines are taught as Infantry anyway, so there are no other forts or camps to attend for "special" jobs until AIT. If anyone saw the History Channel "Basic Training" show for the army, throw that piece of shit out the window. That's how the non Combat-Arms (ei Mechs, Accountants, Clerical, CA's, Secretaries, you know, the real pussy jobs biggrin: ) are trained. Any of the other ones, (Benning, Knox, etc.) are where the people that are doin the fightin are trained. These BCT Centers are MUCH different than the others. So don't think they will be easy at all. Not by a long shot. I know Fort Jackson was tough for the recruits on that show, they probably yelled at them twice, but I hope they will stop crying long enough to listen at what the big, mean drill sergeant has to say next cry: . Benning is up there with the Marines' since it's Infantry, although not as crazy oOo: (please, Marines don't kill me over this). Hope this clarified anyone that was still confused. Great, now Im gonna have the Marines on this forum all over my ass since im in the "weak" army, according to them. Please don't flame war me. It's all in good fun my fellow Comrades biggrin: biggrin:

Miscguy 03-18-2003 02:36 AM

Go Airborne. I had my Airborne infantry contract with Ranger option. 4 year contract. ALL Army contracts are for 10 years of service. 2-6 active then the remainder of that 10 you can be recalled to active duty.

As for you PFC11b. Depending on what time you join you can expect to be fucked at 30th AG reception batallion for a MONTH! Yeah i got stuck there for a month then the half way house for a week or two them finnally was put into training. All that time you cant run only push ups and sit ups. I recommed doing leg lifts, elevated sit ups, turn and bounce's, jumping jacks, (side stradle hop in army lingo), anything weighting 8 pounds you should do arm excercises with. Those are just some good things to have going into basic they will try and break your abs and arms. Running isnt to hard, i was a runner before entering. MARCH... FUCKING MARCH, go get a 30 lbs ruck sack and go speed walk for 4 hours... That is the best thing i can tell you. Everything in basic is easy except the road long road marches. They are speed walks 4mph+ never be the last platoon on a long march you'll get strung out and you'll end up running parts.

cameltoe 03-18-2003 03:29 PM

alot of european countries require you to join the army when you turn a certain age , 18 i think. also i know korea requires it, im not sure about russia and china but its more than likely

EasyTrick2.0 03-18-2003 03:38 PM

I think Germany and some of those European countries s like, 19 to 21 required. I think that is a good idea, but I guess some people aren't cut ouit for military life. So maybe some sort of educational and physical teasting, which I am sure they proably do anyways.

Zap. USMC 03-18-2003 04:00 PM

What the hell, PFC11B?? Since when was the army basic training 13 weeks?? I've always known it as 9 weeks.

MrLevinstein 03-18-2003 04:34 PM

[quote="Sargent_Scrotum":201c2]in canada the survival training for the army is they give you your pay cheque & tell you to live off of it. i think its tougher than any american training courses.[/quote:201c2]

lol thats some funny stuff. As far as i know america military pay is pretty decent. What are some of the requirements for physcical testing for the army?

03-18-2003 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
kinda off topic, but this kinda reminded me of something i just saw, I was looking at the USNA physical test to be accepted and it was a lot lower than i had thought:

40 Pushups in 2 minutes
65 situps in 2 minutes
1.5 miles in less than 10:30

i thought the requirements were much harder than that, but oh well...

Im only 13 and I can do that. if they did it in full gear, now THAT would be hard

MrLevinstein 03-18-2003 04:41 PM

[quote="[1st] Maj.Sclass12":e0545]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
kinda off topic, but this kinda reminded me of something i just saw, I was looking at the USNA physical test to be accepted and it was a lot lower than i had thought:

40 Pushups in 2 minutes
65 situps in 2 minutes
1.5 miles in less than 10:30

i thought the requirements were much harder than that, but oh well...

Im only 13 and I can do that. if they did it in full gear, now THAT would be hard[/quote:e0545]

Yeah right!!! 40 pushups witha 40 pound sack on your back?

Milla 03-18-2003 05:46 PM

[quote="Sargent_Scrotum":07198]in canada the survival training for the army is they give you your pay cheque & tell you to live off of it. i think its tougher than any american training courses.[/quote:07198]
Guess youve never heard about Marine mountain survival training oOo:

11 Bravo 03-18-2003 06:27 PM

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":a2042]What the hell, PFC11B?? Since when was the army basic training 13 weeks?? I've always known it as 9 weeks.[/quote:a2042]

If you'd read my post closer, you would know I was talking about the INFANTRY BCT at Benning, not any of the other BCT's. The Infantry have just a few more things for combat to learn than a mechanic or accountant. Plus it is an OSUT (One Station Unit Training) School, combining BCT and AIT together. Much more effecient.

Thanks for the tips Miscguy. I've still got over 4 months till I leave, and I scored myself on a PT test at over 250. Thats also Up here in Colorado. Elevation. That makes a big difference I've been told. However the God Damn humidity is the only thing I will have a problem with.

Milla 03-18-2003 06:33 PM

Yes South Carolina and Georgia the humidity is horrible, i lived in SC for 3 years, and i died going for a walk around the fucking block it was so humid.

11 Bravo 03-18-2003 06:44 PM

Oh yeah, I can hardly wait to die down there! Here, the humidity is almost nothing in the summer. I'm gonna get off the plane July 30, and keel over. Guess I wasn't thinkin when I picked my ship date lol. But maybe it's for the best. After all, "hard training makes for easier combat".

forgot to add, 30 days is a LONG time at reception! A friend of mine is down there right now and he was there a couple of weeks I think. With my luck though, I will be in reception forever too. biggrin:

03-18-2003 06:47 PM

pretty good technology they got that can ring people back to life oOo:

Sergeant_Scrotum 03-18-2003 07:29 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":221f9][quote="Sargent_Scrotum":221f9]in canada the survival training for the army is they give you your pay cheque & tell you to live off of it. i think its tougher than any american training courses.[/quote:221f9]
Guess youve never heard about Marine mountain survival training oOo:[/quote:221f9]

guess you have never seen a canadian army pay cheque.

Milla 03-18-2003 08:22 PM

[quote="Sargent_Scrotum":a626e][quote="Capt. John Miller":a626e][quote="Sargent_Scrotum":a626e]in canada the survival training for the army is they give you your pay cheque & tell you to live off of it. i think its tougher than any american training courses.[/quote:a626e]
Guess youve never heard about Marine mountain survival training oOo:[/quote:a626e]

guess you have never seen a canadian army pay cheque.[/quote:a626e]

CHECK!!!! not cheque happy:

And i lave July 7th, so i gotta deal with the summer for longer cry:

11 Bravo 03-18-2003 08:40 PM

Have fun, I know I will. It'll be a blast, literally. biggrin: I wish I was leaving earlier, that means get the training over with and I would get out of this God forsaken small town sooner!

Miscguy 03-18-2003 10:16 PM

I shipped July 10th so you may have a pretty good wait in hold. Also you fucking picked a horrible time to go. The weather down there fucking sucks for how long you'll be there. You'll start out to fucking hot and sweety but by the end of the cycle the weather is freezing ass cold at night. All the gear they give you may look well insulated and comfy, its not. Im the only person i know of to get frost bite in Georgia. Sitting out on guard post after 9/11. I was wearing my PT sweets under my winter BDU's both pair of glove liners, with dress gloves and leather shell, 2 pair of PT socks with a pair of black covering those, wearing my field jacket and field jacket liner. Still got fuckin frost bite on my foot. I was pissed, but never had to do post guard again.

Even worse about your ship time. The Iraqi war will be over before your out of basic. Oh well always N. Korea.

Pyro 03-18-2003 10:27 PM

it's cheque.

Milla 03-18-2003 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miscguy
I shipped July 10th so you may have a pretty good wait in hold. Also you fucking picked a horrible time to go. The weather down there fucking sucks for how long you'll be there. You'll start out to fucking hot and sweety but by the end of the cycle the weather is freezing ass cold at night. All the gear they give you may look well insulated and comfy, its not. Im the only person i know of to get frost bite in Georgia. Sitting out on guard post after 9/11. I was wearing my PT sweets under my winter BDU's both pair of glove liners, with dress gloves and leather shell, 2 pair of PT socks with a pair of black covering those, wearing my field jacket and field jacket liner. Still got fuckin frost bite on my foot. I was pissed, but never had to do post guard again.

Even worse about your ship time. The Iraqi war will be over before your out of basic. Oh well always N. Korea.

I didnt pick it, they gave it to me because i said ASAP, but i wanna spend some time with family before i left. So the avaliable date they gave me was July 7th (the only free slots open) Plus i hear the weather at parris is diffrent to georgia. It stays more humid because its right on the water.

Jedi Marksman 03-18-2003 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
it's cheque.

check, cheque=a piece of paper that implies that you have money or
are atleast pretending to.

Pyro 03-18-2003 10:38 PM

check refers to like a body check in hockey.


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