they are totally pissing on MOH over at planetwolfenstein and its ticking me off.

among other complaints:

graphics suck. whatever, yeah, playing on a voodoo banshee will cause that problem. I think the graphics in this are better than wolf, in many ways.

your AI buddies are dumb. well yeah, they arent brain surgeons, but they are better than in any game ive seen before.

aforementioned movement speed. teenagers, nuff said.

its NOT realistic enough. wha? I dont recall anyone saying this WW2 operation flashpoint.

cant we all just get along? I dont see anyone around here bashing wolf over and over.

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Ghost Soldiers, 6th Ranger Bn.

let them say whatever they want. I think moh is better but thats my opinion

THIS IS WAR!!!!!!!!!! LOL ... I was gona buy
wolfenstien cause i was bored and dint want to wait for MOHAA playing RA2 so i got the demo. and the idiots that made the game made the demo in the best map and best gaming type so i aint gona buy the game :P

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In my opinion, when you put something down, it means it is good and people are talking about it. To me, RTCW, felt like Doom with pretty graphics. That's about it. I think Medal of Honor is shaping up to be the best FPS since Hallife, and that is a big compliment. Sure, there are some things that can be added, (notice I said added, not changed), but the multiplayer demo is a just that, A DEMO. It was stripped of things in order to make the download more bearable, and the graphics, as they are still prettier than RTCW in my opinion. Wait until we get the full version of this already fantastic game.

**B-A** VaL VeNiS(Canada)

RTCW is a good game but totally unrealistic but the sweetest mission is where u have to escort a captured Panzer through a bombed out village.The Panzer even blew up a bell tower to take out the Sniper inside it.Sweeet.BTW luftwafe the first 2 maps in the demo sucked.

I do quite well at MP even with my 24 fps average. Its not about graphics.. its gameplay. People who prefer graphics to gameplay will never be happy.

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I think Medal in a lot better than Wolf. They said that is was not enought realistic and they said the mouvements were too slow, but if u look at wolf, u seems to be in a camera flooting around a map, and they said that THIS is realistic ...
My conclusion :
Wolf : bad
Medal : great !

Its my opinion ...

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I couldnt agree with Venus more.....

heyy, thompson would ya make me a sig?
your sig looks nice http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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well, they don't all bash it, but alot do.

check out this post that inspired me to write this:

planetwolf post

well this is a MOHAA forum so people here are going to be a bit biased.

Well these guys need to try the coop map. The ai is even better in it than the single player game. Very hard and realistic. Beats the crap out of Wolfs ai for sure.

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I tried playing Multiplayer Wolfenstein last night for the first time in a long time, and I must say it was an odd experience that I will not be repeating. After playing MOHAA, Wolfenstein's character running speed feels insanely fast without even sprinting. I felt like Carl Lewis with a Tommy gun.

As far as graphics are concerned, RTCW runs much smoother for me and looks better, texture and lighting-wise. Now, as far as level design is concerned, I think I'll have to give the nod to MOHAA. It feels more "real" than the fantasy castle land that RTCW presents. Of course, this is really just silly conjecture on my part, because the full version of MOHAA hasn't been released. How can I possibly compare them at this point? Even when they are released, I'm not going to waste too much time comparing them. I am done with RTCW anyway, so there! It's MOHAA and Ghost Recon from this point on!

As far as multiplayer smoothness, again it has been my experience that RTCW is much better. I continue to get annoying slowdown in multiplayer MOHAA games when I am in a close-quarters, stafing/moving firefight. It really starts to chug, and to me it feels like game graphics engine slowdown. Dropping to 800x600 from 1024x768 seemed to help. I may be wrong, but I need to try it on a LAN for further proof.

I suppose I could upgrade my Athlon 1.33/Radeon 8500 box, but I don't think I'd be getting too much of a boost.

I'll wait for the full version to cast my final vote on team AI, but I *can* say that my Ghost Recon AI buddies seem smarter. They'll go prone as you go prone, and they won't turn their backs to the enemy to face you and just stare at you for no reason.

If they had just implemented prone in multiplayer (at least), allowed you to prime grenades, and tweaked weapon damage values/behaviour a bit, I would be really excited right now. I am not *really* excited, but I am anxious to get the full version. I have high hopes that the mod community can really take this game to new heights.

Hannover

"carl lewis with a tommy gun"

LOL, very true.

I really really like wolf mp, but MOH multi has the nod as far as gameplay. but you are right when you say wolf is smoother.

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Ghost Soldiers, 6th Ranger Bn.

BWAHAhahahaaha look what this guy posted...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I havn't played the sp demo yet but have played the mp. The engine sucks .......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is it me or arent they both done on the same core engine?

Names have been withheld to protect the mentally challenged....

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SS-NaPPo:
heyy, thompson would ya make me a sig?
your sig looks nice http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><Ill see what i can do, but to be honest, i havent a lot of time http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
Try asking Skidropunk, hes pretty good :P



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i like how the compare DOD to MOHAA. bastards

My opinion[s]

Wolfenstein has better graphics: Yes and No. Right now, it looks like it. Wolfenstein has much better textures. Even the models are extremely clear and extremely detailed on almost any card and whoops you off the chair with a Geforce 3. Not so in Medal of Honor. On the other hand, the final will let you compress textures. That might increase the quality.

I recently played Ghost Recon and must say that MoH's AI is great but not...well, very great. They should have scripted the AI a little more. Here and there they are just stupid, not knowing if to shoot or if to take cover, which results in weird back and forth.

I've been to the Achtung Wolfenstein forums, never heard of the movement speed complaint?!?

MoH is not realistic. If you take the Zombies and stuff away from Wolf it's nearly as unrealistic as MoH. But maybe that's why it's a blast to play.

Yes I agree, both games arn't realistic, I disagree with somone saying that moh is the flashpoint of ww2. Its all about the gameplay. Both RTCW and MOH have theyre ups and downs, just depends on the type of gamer you are, I would call Wolfenstien a bit more arcade-ish but moh comes pretty close to it also.

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Thanks for reading this post.

Completly agree with Hannover.

I had alot of fun with Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Sure, I was a little disappointed, but it wasn't the worst game I've ever played.

I'm firmly convinced that version 2.0 of Day of Defeat and the full version of Medal of Honor: Allied Assault will both be astoundingly good. And yes, I plan on playing both: MOH for Single player goodness and DOD for multiplayer insanity http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

not that I have anything against Medal of Honor's multiplayer, I am simply more accustomed to DOD.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cpt. dick:
they are totally pissing on MOH over at planetwolfenstein and its ticking me off.
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What do you expect it's PlanetWolfenstein.

I encourage them to hate MOH:AA so they can continue to play their Quake 3 with military weapons - Wolf - while we play a real game called MOH:AA.

I say be glad they play Wolf and don't mess up our game.

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[This message has been edited by quiet (edited January 08, 2002).]

Don't forget that Moh:AA textures have been toned down to help with the filesize. Don't compare a demo to a full game...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by quiet:
What do you expect it's PlanetWolfenstein.

I encourage them to hate MOH:AA so they can continue to play their Quake 3 with military weapons - Wolf - while we play a real game called MOH:AA.

I say be glad they play Wolf and don't mess up our game.

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[This message has been edited by quiet (edited January 08, 2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hell yeah!!!! let's all start Pissing on RTCW
I have the full version of RTCW....IT SUCKS!!! soooo glad it was a x-mas present,and not my hard-earned moolah.....



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Das Geminschaft
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Man, you're going down to their level by dissing "their" game, if they are in fact dissing "ours."

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Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy other people to shoot at.
There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole.
"Just call me Doom." - Flynn Taggert
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When the RTCW demo was out I was running a 24/7 20 player dedicated server and the RTCW "community" was well balanced with opinions about other games...but when the game came out the community started going downhill..so when I "upgraded" my 784 SDSL line to a T1 I left the RTCW community...and haven`t looked back.
RTCW is a nice multiplayer and so is Nerf Arena http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Why care what others think?

This is a problem you have, not them.

WHO CARES?!?!?!?!

Does it effect your life in anyway? No, you keep living, you do not get hurt, so WHY BOTHER CARING???????

Let them think the way they want to. People are allowed to have opinions.

This is why there is so much violence in the USA. Peolpe get so ticked at others opinions(when in no way does it harm you) that they go off and do something stupid to that person.

Just let them think the way they want to.

I do have a problem with the speed of MOHAA. The normal JOG is fine. I call it a jog, because it sure as hell isn't running. There really needs to be a sprint button.

There also should be a 'quick reaction button'. See a grenade tossed near you? hit the button and the direction you want to go, and you jump to the ground for cover after a few steps.

If running, hit the button and you instantly hit the ground and role/slide for a second or two.

Each would then have you hit the button to get back up, which would be realistic and take a few seconds to do.

Also, being able to go prone is badly needed.

What did you expect. The average age of RTCW players is around 14 http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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the main reason it pissed me off was because someone comes along behind them and says "oh, I was thinking about getting that, thanks for the heads up" or something like that.

of course, anyone who bases their decision to buy moh on what someone says at a rtcw forum, well, thats just moronic.

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Ghost Soldiers, 6th Ranger Bn.

"I do have a problem with the speed of MOHAA. The normal JOG is fine. I call it a jog, because it sure as hell isn't running. There really needs to be a sprint button.

There also should be a 'quick reaction button'. See a grenade tossed near you? hit the button and the direction you want to go, and you jump to the ground for cover after a few steps.

If running, hit the button and you instantly hit the ground and role/slide for a second or two."

man, I really like those ideas. I also, wish there was a sprint button. that idea for a dive button is cool too. maybe when they release the sdk..



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if you can see us............then you're already dead

Ghost Soldiers, 6th Ranger Bn.

I think MOH is one of the more realistic games out there....

About that running-slow comment... The guys are carrying a 50lb backpack on, and wearing 3 layers of army cloking... of course your gonna run slow!

The AI to me is really well done... I mean common!.. any game where the enemy would through himself onto a grenade to protect his pals get 10/10 in my book!

The graphics... Do i need to say anything about them? There great... really well done.. and the textures.. nice!

The Gameplay... They made this game as close to WWII as they could while still making it very fun! If they made it any more life like it would have taken the fun away form the gameplay...

To me this game is great... Being a fan of the other MOH titles, this one is, to me, the next Half Life!!

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yup.

OMG ,guys RTCW does NOT try to be realistic, just fun.If it was trying to be realistic why would there be zombies or monsters??Just cuz this is a Mohaa forum and RTCW is the only rival WW2 game out there u all piss on it.Its a good game cept 4 the GAY boss guy at the end.

I NEVER bashed rtcw. I love wolf, its a great game.

I was just a little hot under the collar because over at planetwolf, they were dissing moh and people who hadn't tried it (moh) were listening to them.

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then don't go to that msgboard...sheesh <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cpt. dick:
I NEVER bashed rtcw. I love wolf, its a great game.

I was just a little hot under the collar because over at planetwolf, they were dissing moh and people who hadn't tried it (moh) were listening to them.

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thanks , thompson. i like your sig, becouse it doesnt look so serious http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cpt. dick:
they are totally pissing on MOH over at planetwolfenstein and its ticking me off.
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PlanetWolfenstein? Skid works there ya know? Ask him to regulate a bit http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

both games are good.


how bout that?

The characters in MOHAA MP do NOT wear 50 pound bags, except maybe the one Allied airborne, who does seem to have a 'chute on his back.

In reality, you can sprint for a small time. Look at operation flashpoint.

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