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04-27-2003 03:49 PM

Aimbot! Is mohaa ruined?!?
 
Apparently our best buds over at that certain cheat forum have finally gotten a working aimbot out, go check it out for yourselves. They say it is easy to catch with Counter Intelligence, but I am certain they will make bypasses to make it uncatchable at least for a while...

Is this the end of mohaa? cry: cry:

mrangry 04-27-2003 04:50 PM

the end of moh happened a long time ago.

04-27-2003 05:18 PM

no it didn't, people have still been playing a lot because there are ways to stop the cheats that have come out so far, or just deal with them, wallhacks are nothing without at least a little skill

Dj RaNnY kAn 04-27-2003 05:52 PM

i love killing cheaters hahha they get so pissed

04-27-2003 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrangry
the end of moh happened a long time ago.

the end of MOH started when they released SH...

Judas 04-27-2003 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sclass12
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrangry
the end of moh happened a long time ago.

the end of MOH started when they released SH...

i still play moh, spearhead is as fun as counter strike.

04-27-2003 08:25 PM

no one else seems to see how much this sucks...

mrangry 04-27-2003 08:39 PM

perhaps it's because it doesn't suck that much

we have

skins that show through walls
wallhacks
no-recoil hacks
no-fog hacks
no sunglare hacks
landsharking
white walls
bright skins
screenshot bypass for chameleon skins

does an aimbot really matter, especially one easy to detect?

04-27-2003 08:41 PM

skins that show through walls are wallhacks

But i dont give a shit really, i wanna test it out, but i dont play MOHAA or SH anymore

mrangry 04-27-2003 08:42 PM

technically they're seperate, since they're simply modified shaders attached to neon skins.

04-27-2003 09:05 PM

You're kidding right? Far worse than any cheat you've seen yet. No comparison. Dont argue, its pointless. Its by far worse than any of those. This is the biggest cheat attainable for any game, and it finally happened.

Rott3n 04-27-2003 10:00 PM

[JuGGeRnAuT] is right, this is real bad. I think I hear a 60 player DesertCombat server calling my clan.

Akuma 04-28-2003 04:10 AM

Its probaly the same old OGC Aimbot that has been out for over a year and doesn't work...

mrangry 04-28-2003 09:01 AM

it's funny you mention DC, considering cheating sites have entire sections dedicated to it, aimbots included.

MPowell1944 04-28-2003 09:12 AM

I had a chance to test this new "I-Bot" out, and it isn't the same ol' OGC aimbot. I messed with the settings and I was able to just run around without pressing a button and I got 14 to 2 in right under 2 minutes. It comes with a toggleable wallhack. With all of it's features, you don't even need cham skins anymore. Its quite sad, yet at the same time its easily detectable by any of the current means of detection. Looks like a waste of time to me.

Phanny 04-28-2003 09:32 AM

MoH:AA Aint dead yet, but thats no aimbot its a trigger bot, you need to activate 2 other cheats in order for it to actually work, so your not just running 1 cheat you gotta have 3 cheats on. It can be picked up by the simplest anti-cheat so its np for Clan Matches. If you wana play public i suggest you play on a Clan Server, a well known 1, which runs anti-cheat 24/7.

Zoner 04-28-2003 09:40 AM

Just play on closely-moderated servers with anti-cheat apps, and you'll be fine. *cough*allaboutnothing*cough*

Playing on an un-moderated public server is like licking the seat of a public toilet...you never know what you'll get.

04-28-2003 09:54 AM

I am still sceptical about this aimbot.
why?

because if I made an aimbot I would not paste it all over the web and give it to thousands of people.

mrangry 04-28-2003 10:01 AM

it works, i've seen the thread about it.

it also only works when you're standing supposedly because crouching messes up the shot-calculation.

04-28-2003 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mrangry
it works, i've seen the thread about it.

it also only works when you're standing supposedly because crouching messes up the shot-calculation.

allright, so they'll be sitting ducks when using it biggrin:

MPowell1944 04-28-2003 11:51 AM

I have heard rumors about it attaining a virus or whatnot hardcoded into the program. As stryker pointed out, who makes an aimbot and gives it to just anyone.

04-28-2003 03:17 PM

Man some people dont pay attention... "Maybe its OGC, bleh" "Maybe its a triggerbot, im dumb!"

And some are getting virus warnings but most arent. With ACA type cvar hiding, a private version of this could be easily made undetectable.

MPowell1944 04-28-2003 03:26 PM

Who gives a crap if it is. Folks who use aimbots have got to be the saddest players in the game. If you can't hit someone with cham skins and you still need an aimbot to shoot for you, then stay the hell away from me with your n00bness.

Ydiss 04-28-2003 05:22 PM

Well I tried it and it doesn't work at all, but that is most likely just incompatability with my system.

Is it worrying? Slightly, as I have met 2-3 people using it already.

Are they really good? Not really, here are my scores in 2 maps:

[img]http://www.btinternet.com/~ydisss/bot.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.btinternet.com/~ydisss/bot2.jpg[/img]

Johnny B Good and Kazaa were definitely using it. Insta-aim whenever you came within their POV.

The other one, Alonzo could have been using it but then he accused me of cheating so perhaps not hehe. The other two definitely used it. Kazaa even admitted to it.

I switched on an ESP skin to make absolutely sure and it was bloody obvious.

As you can see though it doesn't replace good practice and skill.

Once I realised they were using it I adapted my play to a very cagey and careful style. You have to use corners really well to counter it. Let them poke their head out and use reflexes to pop them with the sniper.

They both used smgs/mgs so I had the edge on them.

Kazaa used sniper once and it was a lot more effective but only if you camp, it seems, because the noobs ran about too much for their aim to be accurate even with the bot.

Kazaa only got a low death rate btw because he also used the respawn glitch (binds spectator and restarts the game onto one key so he could avoid death if not killed instantly).

Oh here's a pic of him admitting that, just to clarify:

[img]http://www.btinternet.com/~ydisss/spawn.jpg[/img]

It made for a challenging game though. So, although it's ghey as ghey can be, it isn't particularly scary.

Oh, and this was a German server. Figures.

04-28-2003 06:10 PM

Must not have set it right. ANd if they were missing they didnt have it, your just to naive and suspicious.

Ydiss 04-28-2003 07:18 PM

Er, they weren't missing that much. Only when they neglected to let the recoil die down. They had it set fine, no human has the reactions they had.

And if you feel I don't have the experience to back that claim up you should see some of the legit players I have had the pleasure of crossing sights with. They are virtually aimbots and skinhacks because of their reactions and hearing and knowledge.

But! Even they don't turn a full 45 degrees to aim and instantly fire at you as they emerge from a corner when you're half a map away, static and only poking your head out. And hit.

And one of them admitted to using it.

The other didn't say a thing but he was even worse. Neither tried to hide it.



I beat them because:
  • I have enough experience to out-wit them and I could kill the other players faster than they did.[/*:m:5f7f4]
  • No matter how accurate you are with the SMG/MG you have to pause to reset aim between bursts. A good player can snipe someone between those bursts if they're quick enough. [/*:m:5f7f4]
  • No aimbot will make the weapon you are firing any more accurate. When running SMGs and Mg can be very innacurate even on first shot. All the aimbot does is put your crosshair on them and fire. You know full-well that you can still miss due to the physics.[/*:m:5f7f4]
  • If you are behind them they won't shoot at you (unless they change the POV cvar).[/*:m:5f7f4]
  • Not as useful in big fights - I picked them off while they were killing someone else quite a lot and often stole their kills.[/*:m:5f7f4]
  • They just weren't that good at the game.[/*:m:5f7f4]

They may have hit me a lot but they didn't have the skill to take me down before I got my fair share of kills.

You may feel I'm just bragging but my point is this: Very few truly skilled players, players who have spent hours and hours practicing the game and enjoying it will bother to use this cheat.

Only the truly moronic and anally retentive players (and I use the word "players" loosely - I don't particularly class hitting up down left and right while the computer does the rest for you as "playing" - may as well play pong) are likely to spend time using this cheat.

Whilst this doesn't mean you will avoid this cheat it does mean that the majority of those that do use it won't be classy enough to be able to take down the best players.

It signals doom for newer players, sadly, and it will most likely increase cheat accusations tenfold (this is the only aspect that gets on my tits).

Also, those who like to play realism... no chance... This cheat will tear realism apart. Unless you see them first they will kill you, pretty much guaranteed.

The funny thing is, and this truly portrays the mentality of the cheater of online games, is that a lot of those who replied to the thread releasing this cheat are now saying things like: "MoH is dead" "This is the end of MoH" "This sucks, don't make it undetectable, or MOH will die!".

Twats.

You couldn't make it up.

They want these cheats, they beg for them and when they get them they start crying that it will kill their beloved game.

No shit sherlock.

04-28-2003 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ydiss
It signals doom for newer players, sadly, and it will most likely increase cheat accusations tenfold (this is the only aspect that gets on my tits).

.

ah hahahahahahaha biggrin:

.:]CF[:.Hybrid Goose 04-28-2003 08:24 PM

Actually....you can have it set perfectly make it shoot when it locks on and use a sniper. I got 117 - 7 in 9 minutes in a server with 14 people.

Ydiss 04-28-2003 08:27 PM

Using it with a sniper rifle is likely to yield more joy than any automatic weapon, of course.

So long as you aren't moving too much when you fire and your enemies aren't playing extremely cagey then I can imagine it'd be easy to rack up a lot of kills in a short time.

04-28-2003 08:48 PM

Aims better than a human and faster. Locks on, optional autoshoot, you bursts set it more accurate with automatics. You could be moving anyways, wouldnt really matter.

And you dont know how many times i have said i was using an aimbot. Most cheaters probably dont even know about it yet.

Ydiss 04-28-2003 08:54 PM

Ah, I've just noticed the word at the bottom of your sig.

Makes sense now.

MPowell1944 04-28-2003 09:50 PM

Ironic isn't it. He says I am unwanted on the MPC forum (as a visitor as he is to this forum), yet its just fine and dandy if he is on this forum. Give me a fuckin' break. (yes, I can talk shit now that I'm not on "their" forum. biggrin: )

04-28-2003 09:52 PM

they still have your cham skins on there MPowell hake:

But this aimbot, kinda works. I was able to go on a public server, did awesome with it, undetectable. but you have to be still for it to work right

RichardNixon 04-29-2003 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ydiss
Oh, and this was a German server. Figures.

It *is* interesting, in fact. About 80% of the worst cheaters I've met regularly were either German or French, literally! And there were cases where ALL of them were! For example, anyone who visits the official EA servers no doubt had the displeasure of meeting a bunch of characters like the illiterate "Sharkman" or the lame crybaby "mutti" there. There are about 10 - 12 of those idiots who come in there regularly to spoil games - constant telefragging, sharking, bashing everyone from underground, voice spamming, and so on. And ALL, ALL OF THEM are either German or French! Figures, indeed...

04-29-2003 06:45 AM

i say dont worry about it. anyone that had any common sense in their head knows a cheater when he sees one. plus, half the time the aimbot doesnt work. u have to set the cordinates on a person for it to shoot (stomach, head, etc.) using a command which barely works. who cares really. play with people that know the game and ull be fine.

Zoner 04-29-2003 07:07 AM

[quote="aNti hEro":cde52]i say dont worry about it. anyone that had any common sense in their head knows a cheater when he sees one. plus, half the time the aimbot doesnt work. u have to set the cordinates on a person for it to shoot (stomach, head, etc.) using a command which barely works. who cares really. play with people that know the game and ull be fine.[/quote:cde52]

AMEN!

mrangry 04-29-2003 09:31 AM

the psychological effect is always worse than the real thing. how many of you can honestly say when someone makes an amazing shot apparently out of nowhere you haven't suspected him of cheating?

MPowell1944 04-29-2003 09:50 AM

Everyday.

Ydiss 04-29-2003 09:53 AM

You're right mrangry, in that it increases the paranoid reaction to good players and good shots.

This will affect the newer and less skilled players a lot.

Myself, it takes a lot more than just one excellent/flukey shot to make me suspect someone and once I do suspect them I won't start accusing or I wont leave the server until I have spent at least 2-3 minutes spectating them.

That's what I did last night.

But, trust me... Not only is this cheat detectable by anti-cheats but it is easilly, and I mean really easilly spotted in open play.

It's very hard to hide the "insta-switch" effect that this bot makes its users do. I don't care how experienced someone is, they are not able to spot, aim, shoot and hit someone from one end of say Southern France to the other (between those arches with the bridge to your left) when they weren't even looking that way to start with.

I watched in spec and these players were consistently flicking angles when a new target appeared.

I like to think I have fast reactions but when I change my view to aim at someone across the map I still "swing" my aim and still have a split second delay before I shoot. I know some players are extremely fast. But even they have a delay-shoot ratio that is visible.

At long distances the best players will always lead their aim and allow their target to "walk through" their sights before pulling the trigger. Some are better at this than others, some don't even need a lead-time they just aim and shoot, but there is still a tangible and clear delay.

This bot does it with no delay at all. Ever. There is no setting to add a "failure model" to hide its actions.

It's as obvious and conspicuous as a nun in a whore house.

It may take a few minutes to be 100% sure, but you only need to see the insta-switch 3-5 times before it's plain.

No, MoH isn't dead. It's just full of 'tards.

Argon 04-29-2003 10:07 AM

Great, how lame can this game get. This is why I stopped playing MOH a long time ago. Unbelievable, nothing like ruining a good game.

Cheaters Suck Ass. Losers


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