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negative 05-23-2003 01:49 PM

i know its lame but...
 
does anyone else get excited about all the movies they show during memorial day weekend? I also really look forward to it (even though i know its lame)

Star85 05-23-2003 01:50 PM

Like what movies?

negative 05-23-2003 01:52 PM

like war movied dude

Xorcist [USA] 05-23-2003 02:33 PM

Nothing lame about honoring those who served. That is the reason those movies are on television this weekend.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 02:40 PM

I hope they don't air Rambo to commemorate the Vietnam war vets.

Zoner 05-23-2003 02:41 PM

Yeah, that wouldn't be cool.

So, what movies ARE they showing?

Vance 05-23-2003 02:42 PM

Are they going to show SPR?

Innoxx 05-23-2003 02:43 PM

Most likely, which is a bad example.

Vance 05-23-2003 02:44 PM

No it isnt...not really, anyways.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
No it isnt...not really, anyways.

It's way too inaccurate to portray ww2 veterans. Th opening beach scene was good but everything else was just too unrealistic. If they want a movie to commemorate the vets I'd choose When Trumpets Fade or even Band Of Brothers.

Jotun 05-23-2003 02:47 PM

i hope they show Enemy at the Gates, lol, even though it has nothing to do with americans, and Full Metal Jacket just cuz it kicks ass.

Zoner 05-23-2003 02:49 PM

If I'm not mistaken, SPR was very well received by vets, was it not?

Anyway, a BoB marathon would be sweet. It wouldn't happen, but it'd be kewl.

Put on "A Bridge Too Far" and I'll have 3hrs of good watchin'. biggrin:

Chronic Diarrhea 05-23-2003 03:25 PM

SPR was well-received by the vets, and not just for the beach scene. Many vets claim the movie did a good job portraying how life was like during war. I agree, but BoB does a much better job, but that is a mini-series, SPR is a movie.

05-23-2003 03:29 PM

Many vets were debating about the amount of cursing when the movie came out. Some say that they never used that many swears, while others say they used way more. But whatever

But SPR was so historically inaccurate in almost everything.

"Thunder!
...
Flash!"
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Innoxx 05-23-2003 03:38 PM

What bugged me was the last battle in that town. This rag-tag group of guys were taking on thee Waffen SS, hitler's best. Yet the director portrayed them as a thrid rate peasant army. Running into machine gun, falling pray jackson, and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart.

Tripper 05-23-2003 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
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Originally Posted by Vance1
No it isnt...not really, anyways.

It's way too inaccurate to portray ww2 veterans. Th opening beach scene was good but everything else was just too unrealistic. If they want a movie to commemorate the vets I'd choose When Trumpets Fade or even Band Of Brothers.

Yeah, When Trumpets Fade is a great film.....I have it on video, it's good that they don't overdo the heroism, it's still in the realistic zone, and I can't remember any part of the film that crosses into the hollywood zone.

Slaggg 05-23-2003 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart

Thing is, that happened more often than not. The German Army during WW2 was woefully lacking in motorized transport. Together with air-superiority, the fact that the US and it's allies had such an extensive motor-pool is credited with their victory. Germany spent so much damn time/energy/resources developing the most effective and feared artillery (88s), tanks (Tiger's) and personnel weapons (STGs), they completely negelected the fact that these armaments and troops need to move around, quickly.

Vance 05-23-2003 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
What bugged me was the last battle in that town. This rag-tag group of guys were taking on thee Waffen SS, hitler's best. Yet the director portrayed them as a thrid rate peasant army. Running into machine gun, falling pray jackson, and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart.

Well, in BoB they were pretty weak against the 101st, so how do you think they would measure up to Rangers?

Innoxx 05-23-2003 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
What bugged me was the last battle in that town. This rag-tag group of guys were taking on thee Waffen SS, hitler's best. Yet the director portrayed them as a thrid rate peasant army. Running into machine gun, falling pray jackson, and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart.

Well, in BoB they were pretty weak against the 101st, so how do you think they would measure up to Rangers?

It's hollywood. Trust me I've heard my share of Waffen SS stories. They are best.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Slaggg
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart

Thing is, that happened more often than not. The German Army during WW2 was woefully lacking in motorized transport. Together with air-superiority, the fact that the US and it's allies had such an extensive motor-pool is credited with their victory. Germany spent so much damn time/energy/resources developing the most effective and feared artillery (88s), tanks (Tiger's) and personnel weapons (STGs), they completely negelected the fact that these armaments and troops need to move around, quickly.

You know how hard it would be for three-four guys to push around a 1000lb gun in a ruined town?

Vance 05-23-2003 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance1
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
What bugged me was the last battle in that town. This rag-tag group of guys were taking on thee Waffen SS, hitler's best. Yet the director portrayed them as a thrid rate peasant army. Running into machine gun, falling pray jackson, and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart.

Well, in BoB they were pretty weak against the 101st, so how do you think they would measure up to Rangers?

It's hollywood. Trust me I've heard my share of Waffen SS stories. They are best.

It was in the book, and it was comfiremed by Winters and more 101st vets.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
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Originally Posted by Vance1
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
What bugged me was the last battle in that town. This rag-tag group of guys were taking on thee Waffen SS, hitler's best. Yet the director portrayed them as a thrid rate peasant army. Running into machine gun, falling pray jackson, and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart.

Well, in BoB they were pretty weak against the 101st, so how do you think they would measure up to Rangers?

It's hollywood. Trust me I've heard my share of Waffen SS stories. They are best.

It was in the book, and it was comfiremed by Winters and more 101st vets.

I dunno man. There's so many factors that affect the soldiers' performance. Morale, cohesion, hunger, artillery/air support, cover, leadership, supply, fatigue battle experience, and training. The Waffen SS training was very rigorous and at the height of the thrid reich's power they were the finest soldiers in the world. Well supplied, well armed, well trained and large in number. If you fought against the same group of guys in late '44 they would most likely be a pushover.

My grandad told me how crazy the WSS were on the eastern front. He told me how a group of about ten of them assaulted a Russian entrenchment dodging gunfire and artillery and didn't lose one guy. He told me that they counted over 90 russian bodies after that little engagement.

Milla 05-23-2003 04:59 PM

One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 05:06 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":7f79c]One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.[/quote:7f79c]

If you want action, watch Rambo. The daily life of a the soldier constitutes sitting on your ass 80% of the time.

Milla 05-23-2003 05:08 PM

[quote=Innoxx]
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Originally Posted by "Capt. John Miller":e89f5
One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.

If you want action, watch Rambo. The daily life of a the soldier constitutes sitting on your ass 80% of the time.[/quote:e89f5]

did i say rambo action you stupid bastard? no i didnt, i said a LITTLE BIT more action, that bridge scene should of been like 5-10 mins longer.

Innoxx 05-23-2003 05:11 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":e949a][quote=Innoxx]
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Originally Posted by "Capt. John Miller":e949a
One thing that bugged me about when trumpets fade was they could of used a little bit more action, overall though its a great movie.

If you want action, watch Rambo. The daily life of a the soldier constitutes sitting on your ass 80% of the time.[/quote:e949a]

did i say rambo action you stupid bastard? no i didnt, i said a LITTLE BIT more action, that bridge scene should of been like 5-10 mins longer.[/quote:e949a]

Easy Milla *pats him on the back while stealing his wallet* eaaaasy. It's a war movie. Not all of them have to be action packed. If you think you can do better let's see.

snipeymagoo 05-23-2003 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
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Originally Posted by Vance1
No it isnt...not really, anyways.

It's way too inaccurate to portray ww2 veterans. Th opening beach scene was good but everything else was just too unrealistic. If they want a movie to commemorate the vets I'd choose When Trumpets Fade or even Band Of Brothers.

yeah, we all have an opinion, but when trumpets fade kicked ass.....BoB we all know is awesome, gotta love WW2 stuff

ninty 05-23-2003 05:36 PM

C'mon, are you guys telling me you watch SPR and those films to commerate the veterans? I don't think so. You watch them because you like them, they are entertaining. You do not watch a movie to commerate veterans. You go to ceremonies or maybe watch a documentary, but thats even pushing it.

Hollywood is not there to tell stories, they are there to make money. They make money through making entertaining movies which we all like to see. I doubt anyone in Hollywood has seriously ever said lets make a movie to commerate this person etc. and not thought about the amount of money it would make or how entertaining it would be.

05-23-2003 05:37 PM

[quote=Innoxx]
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Originally Posted by Vance1
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
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Originally Posted by Vance1
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Originally Posted by "Innoxx":bb2c3
What bugged me was the last battle in that town. This rag-tag group of guys were taking on thee Waffen SS, hitler's best. Yet the director portrayed them as a thrid rate peasant army. Running into machine gun, falling pray jackson, and the 20mm AA gun being carted around like a shopping cart.

Well, in BoB they were pretty weak against the 101st, so how do you think they would measure up to Rangers?

It's hollywood. Trust me I've heard my share of Waffen SS stories. They are best.

It was in the book, and it was comfiremed by Winters and more 101st vets.

I dunno man. There's so many factors that affect the soldiers' performance. Morale, cohesion, hunger, artillery/air support, cover, leadership, supply, fatigue battle experience, and training. The Waffen SS training was very rigorous and at the height of the thrid reich's power they were the finest soldiers in the world. Well supplied, well armed, well trained and large in number. If you fought against the same group of guys in late '44 they would most likely be a pushover.

My grandad told me how crazy the WSS were on the eastern front. He told me how a group of about ten of them assaulted a Russian entrenchment dodging gunfire and artillery and didn't lose one guy. He told me that they counted over 90 russian bodies after that little engagement.[/quote:bb2c3]
correct, and in BoB,there were more Americans, and in SPR, they had tanks (including 2 Tigers), about 50 infantry,etc. But they were all defeated by about 15 guys oOo:

05-23-2003 05:42 PM

Turner Classic Movies and American Movie Classics are showing war movies from different years.
They are showing WWII and Vietnam movies mostly but there might be a Korea one too.

Encore True Stories (digital cable) will be showing Patton and some other films that I can't remember just now.


TNT is acting gay and not showing war movies like they used to, so FUCK TNT!

05-23-2003 05:43 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":66326]Turner Classic Movies and American Movie Classics are showing war movies from different years.
They are showing WWII and Vietnam movies mostly but there might be a Korea one too.

Encore True Stories (digital cable) will be showing Patton and some other films that I can't remember just now.


TNT is acting gay and not showing war movies like they used to, so FUCK TNT![/quote:66326]
ah, Korea, the USA's forgotten war

Slaggg 05-23-2003 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
You know how hard it would be for three-four guys to push around a 1000lb gun in a ruined town?

Tough as shit, which is exemplified by:

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Originally Posted by Innoxx
My grandad told me how crazy the WSS were on the eastern front. He told me how a group of about ten of them assaulted a Russian entrenchment dodging gunfire and artillery and didn't lose one guy. He told me that they counted over 90 russian bodies after that little engagement.

Tough ass bastards, overcoming tough ass obstacles.

Tripper 05-23-2003 06:27 PM

Millar, are you PMSing? You've seemed grumpier than ME, lately, which is quite grumpy. oOo:

cashwarsplaya 05-23-2003 08:18 PM

they show spr on abc completely uncut every veterens day

Old Reliable 05-23-2003 08:57 PM

turner classic movies is the best channel on tv, of course they will have something

http://www.turnerclassicmovies.com/

Simo Häyhä 05-23-2003 09:03 PM

lol innoxx you have some high standards for war movies
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CaP bUsTa 05-23-2003 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Innoxx

My grandad told me how crazy the WSS were on the eastern front. He told me how a group of about ten of them assaulted a Russian entrenchment dodging gunfire and artillery and didn't lose one guy. He told me that they counted over 90 russian bodies after that little engagement.

I dont doubt that at all. It would have been different for the americans if they had to fight the waffenss a year or two earlier

05-23-2003 09:18 PM

[quote="CaP bUsTa":e8e3c]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoxx

My grandad told me how crazy the WSS were on the eastern front. He told me how a group of about ten of them assaulted a Russian entrenchment dodging gunfire and artillery and didn't lose one guy. He told me that they counted over 90 russian bodies after that little engagement.

I dont doubt that at all. It would have been different for the americans if they had to fight the waffenss a year or two earlier[/quote:e8e3c]

sounds more like the time when (in the Battle of Britain) the krauts claimed to have downed 76 British fighters on a day when the British only lost 13 fighters oOo:

05-23-2003 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cashwarsplaya
they show spr on abc completely uncut every veterens day

Whens Vet's day, again?

ninty 05-23-2003 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Quze
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Originally Posted by cashwarsplaya
they show spr on abc completely uncut every veterens day

Whens Vet's day, again?

Give me a break.

Don't ask stupid questions.


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