how to spot a cheater?
 

mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, i have no freakin clue how to spot hackers, except for when they shoot through dark windows and start shooting at me b4 i get around the corner but other than that im clueless. Can u guys post some other ways to spot em?

look for dumbass names. most people with dumb names who you think might hack 9 time out of 10 they do oOo:

Yeah ppl with names like "master" or something like that who have high scores are usually cheating.

You also wanna follow them in spec mode to see if they never miss a shot, shoot ppl before they come around corners, etc.

[quote="[MOD]Gen.WikiWeaponn":f2bdc]Yeah ppl with names like "master" or something like that who have high scores are usually cheating.

You also wanna follow them in spec mode to see if they never miss a shot, shoot ppl before they come around corners, etc.[/quote:f2bdc]

Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.

[quote=".PsychoMerc.":27202][quote="[MOD]Gen.WikiWeaponn":27202]Yeah ppl with names like "master" or something like that who have high scores are usually cheating.

You also wanna follow them in spec mode to see if they never miss a shot, shoot ppl before they come around corners, etc.[/quote:27202]

Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:27202]

Don't talk a lot of fucking shit u idiot, a lot of people walk around certain parts of maps so they dont give themselves away with their fotsteps. I really dunno what the fuck ure slabbering about anyway, last night u were hacking on the boro objective server and you were smurfing as anti-hero for a short time on that server.


Hypocritical little cunt.

[quote=".PsychoMerc.":42624][quote="[MOD]Gen.WikiWeaponn":42624]Yeah ppl with names like "master" or something like that who have high scores are usually cheating.

You also wanna follow them in spec mode to see if they never miss a shot, shoot ppl before they come around corners, etc.[/quote:42624]

Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:42624]

To see if they are cheating or using headphones fire a bazooka so it explodes near their position. If they continue to play they are cheating, if the player looks AFK he was using headphones and is now on the ground in pain.

[quote=Gerard][quote=".PsychoMerc.":38294]Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:38294]

Don't talk a lot of fucking shit u idiot, a lot of people walk around certain parts of maps so they dont give themselves away with their fotsteps. I really dunno what the fuck ure slabbering about anyway, last night u were hacking on the boro objective server and you were smurfing as anti-hero for a short time on that server.


Hypocritical little cunt.[/quote:38294]

Damn skippy.

[quote=".PsychoMerc.":54eb0][quote=Gerard][quote=".PsychoMerc.":54eb0]Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:54eb0]

Don't talk a lot of fucking shit u idiot, a lot of people walk around certain parts of maps so they dont give themselves away with their fotsteps. I really dunno what the fuck ure slabbering about anyway, last night u were hacking on the boro objective server and you were smurfing as anti-hero for a short time on that server.


Hypocritical little cunt.[/quote:54eb0]

Damn skippy.[/quote:54eb0]

Kids like you are the reason birth control exists, if we had more retards like you walking around the earth would be even more fucked than it is. Do me a favor, don't reproduce.

[img]http://www.lamer.net/dont-breed.jpg[/img]
but a way to spot them is spec them, and if you see them follow a guy with his crosshair through a wall, you know hes cheating. I also have 2 MOHAA's, my real version, and my cheat loaded version. If im questioning the skill of someone in the server, i exit out, go into cheat MOH, spec him, and see if hes using wallhacks or anything. But what people mean by shooting before people go around corners, i think they mean snipers shooting before people come out of corners like on Destroyed Village, you cant hear them from that far away.

Believe me, I won't I don't want any little crumbsnatchers running around. eek:

[quote=".PsychoMerc.":68b13][quote="[MOD]Gen.WikiWeaponn":68b13]Yeah ppl with names like "master" or something like that who have high scores are usually cheating.

You also wanna follow them in spec mode to see if they never miss a shot, shoot ppl before they come around corners, etc.[/quote:68b13]

Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:68b13]

or they seen u coming before. i could give u the perfect example in stali.

how to spot a cheater: watch for him scoping at walls for no reason, get some cheats of your own and watch him, or check for unusual actions.

u can tell is someone is cheating or not becasue they would have a high ping and it is usually and odd #

[quote="aNti hEro":39f02][quote=".PsychoMerc.":39f02][quote="[MOD]Gen.WikiWeaponn":39f02]Yeah ppl with names like "master" or something like that who have high scores are usually cheating.

You also wanna follow them in spec mode to see if they never miss a shot, shoot ppl before they come around corners, etc.[/quote:39f02]

Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:39f02]

or they seen u coming before. i could give u the perfect example in stali.

how to spot a cheater: watch for him scoping at walls for no reason, get some cheats of your own and watch him, or check for unusual actions.[/quote:39f02]
Thanks for repeating what i said

well not true.........u can hold shift to walk slow that isnt cheating!

[quote="{RRY}corsair":d03b4]well not true.........u can hold shift to walk slow that isnt cheating![/quote:d03b4]
[img]http://www.lamer.net/master.jpg[/img]

[quote=Sclass12][quote="aNti hEro":0f4e8][quote=".PsychoMerc.":0f4e8]Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:0f4e8]

or they seen u coming before. i could give u the perfect example in stali.

how to spot a cheater: watch for him scoping at walls for no reason, get some cheats of your own and watch him, or check for unusual actions.[/quote:0f4e8]
Thanks for repeating what i said[/quote:0f4e8]

anytime. when im at school i dont have time to read over every post. specially since i see your sig and can pretty much guess the post will be garbage, such as the "thank you captain obvious" picture you've posted above.

Re: how to spot a cheater?
 

Well I do agree that theres many cheats out there but I also think theres a growing paranoia that anyone with a good score is a cheat.
Whilst i agree that spectating some1 is best way of seeing any "dodgyness"
but this can be misread as well to the untrained eye, an example of this is iv'e played the game since just after its release and therefore I now know all the usual camping spots...for example if some1 was spectating me on southern France they would see me entering the barrel room, spining round and if any1 is there shooting them, now i know that is a prime camping spot for many a newer player but for some1 watching it might be a case of "how did he know that some1 was there" he must be cheating!
When realy its just expierience.
Anyways try to stick to well admined servers where the admins know the game and the maps well and dont let the bastards get u down :D
dooms.

Just because a player is "following" someone behind a wall with their crosshair does not necessarily mean they are hacking.

When I am playing sneaky and I hear footsteps I will often look in the direction of the sound as this can help you work out which way they are moving.

A lot of cheaters will try their best to hide that they have a hack. It is possible to do this if you just ignore players who you could not possible see (nor reach quickly).

A lot of very good players will be able to pre-empt where you will be on the map if you've just spawned, as well. Experience tells you where they are likely to go and how far they are likely to have gotten.

You can use that to pre-empt them emerging round a corner. Fast reflexes then may make it look like you knew they were coming.

I have spec'd many players recently who don't even bother to try to hide their cheat. You can easilly catch them by doing the "fake-peek" a few times.

I made that name up but it's when you know your suspected cheater is around a corner. You approach the corner (leaning helps) but don't expose yourself at all and pull away before too much of your head/body "peeks".

If they fire at you the instant you pull back and they do this quite often then they're likely cheating. This is much easier to do if you have the cheat loaded yourself (if only when you suspect someone and want to check them out) because you will be able to see them waiting and watching you.

As for the aimbot, to detect someone using that is very easy.

You simply cannot hide the "snap-to-target" effect that it has. Watch someone for long enough who is using this hack and it's obvious.

hahahaha very funny but THE GOD DAM SLOW WALKING IS ON THE DEFAULT THING AS SHIFT U IDIOT!!!!!

by the way that note is to sclass not anyof u other guys

[quote=Sclass12][img]http://www.lamer.net/master.jpg[/img][/quote:cdb2f]

well the slow walking thing is set on the default as slow walking so it isnt cheating if you see some1 with there gun in the air it is just them walking slowly so that u cant hear there footstepps of obviosly they are not cheating is slow walking is set on the default

[quote="{RRY}corsair":aa0ce][quote=Sclass12][img]http://www.lamer.net/master.jpg[/img][/quote:aa0ce]

well the slow walking thing is set on the default as slow walking so it isnt cheating if you see some1 with there gun in the air it is just them walking slowly so that u cant hear there footstepps of obviosly they are not cheating is slow walking is set on the default[/quote:aa0ce]
omg...you really are stupid
[img]http://www.lamer.net/master.jpg[/img]

There are other cheats besides those, like one time this guy didnt have to reload his rocket so he camped in this room in s. france, the one accross from those 3 boxes, and if you walked up the stairs (inside) he would fire a rocket and ur dead, my brother went halfway up, went back (right b4 he fired the rocket) and the ran up all in about 1 1/2 seconds, and the dude fired again. obviously a cheat! cool:

[quote="~^No0bAnIzEr^~":73098]There are other cheats besides those, like one time this guy didnt have to reload his rocket so he camped in this room in s. france, the one accross from those 3 boxes, and if you walked up the stairs (inside) he would fire a rocket and ur dead, my brother went halfway up, went back (right b4 he fired the rocket) and the ran up all in about 1 1/2 seconds, and the dude fired again. obviously a cheat! cool:[/quote:73098]

could there have been two guys?

[quote="~^No0bAnIzEr^~":48ee6]There are other cheats besides those, like one time this guy didnt have to reload his rocket so he camped in this room in s. france, the one accross from those 3 boxes, and if you walked up the stairs (inside) he would fire a rocket and ur dead, my brother went halfway up, went back (right b4 he fired the rocket) and the ran up all in about 1 1/2 seconds, and the dude fired again. obviously a cheat! cool:[/quote:48ee6]

Obviously not a cheat, actually.

Yeah, this is a good trick. What I also do sometimes is, if you spotted the cheater, and he is behind a wall/door, lean left-right (while standing still, just move your head to the left and right). If the opponent has wallhack/neon skins, he will think you are a fellow cheater (he can see you leaning and may think you can see him as well). It is not unlikely that he will make jokes, later on in the battle, e.g. 'didn't you see me?'. Sometimes they even 'lean back' as if it were some kind of greeting...

Also installing neon skins yourself and go spectator makes it very easy to spot a cheater.

About aimbot: I don't think I have encountered it yet, but I am not sure. What do you mean with snap-to-target effect Ydiss? Doas it automatically aim for the head if the aimbot detects an opponent or something? I have never used or seen an aimbot, so I don't have an idea how it functions. Only cheat I downloaded once is a neon-skin/wallhack/no-recoil one. After that I stopped bothering. I hate cheats.

heres a tip to keep in mind... most of the kids on cheat police dont know shit

There werent two guys, and there was OBVIOUSLY a cheat, because he fired 2 rockets in about 3/4 of a second!and i didnt even hear one rocket reloading hake:

If this really happened the way you decribed, it is not a cheat, but a mod. Perhaps the server was running a rocket launcher mod of some kind.

There is no damage magnifier or increase rate of fire cheat available. Has to be done serverside.

When I say "snap-to-target" I mean when an enemy appears in the preset FOV (field of vision - there's a cvar that you can alter for the bot that changes the angle at which the bot will aim at... So far as I know it cannot aim behind you, but I've never tested it) the cheater's aim will snap to that enemy.

The cheater can choose auto-fire (bot shoots for you with burst fire presets and variables) or they can shoot manually.

But, the snap-to effect gives them away. If they emerge around a corner and are facing 45 degrees+ from you, or perhaps even looking up, or down, as soon as you appear in their FOV they will aim at you immediately.

There is no "swing" of the aim. Even a player with very good reflexes will swing their aim sometimes.

A person using this bot will never do this. It's very obvious on verticle maps (Stalingrad for example).

I recently saw a player who was on the ground in Stalingrad and was firing upwards and to his left. I approached from his right and as soon as I saw him his aim instantly switched to me. That's a 90 degree turn with a pitch angle change of about 145 degrees in a split second, instantly hitting me.

Obvious.

Granted, some of the cheaters who are serious about what they do and want to actually seem "cool" and not just a sad kid will attempt to hide these cheats.

Until a cvar enabling "swing" auto-aim is introduced then this will never be possible for aimbots. And, if this cvar is introduced then you may as well just learn to aim yourself because it will seriously fuck up your own aiming in tight situations, especially when you really need to switch your aim quickly.

[quote="~^No0bAnIzEr^~":5b469]There werent two guys, and there was OBVIOUSLY a cheat, because he fired 2 rockets in about 3/4 of a second!and i didnt even hear one rocket reloading hake:[/quote:5b469]

That's no cheat and it's impossible to make a cheat that does what you describe without allowing everyone else on the server to do the same with the bazooka.

It's called a server-side mod as has been pointed out to you on a couple of occasions.

It is not a cheat it's just an alteration of that weapon.

I bet you didn't try the bazooka yourself, did you?

Well explained, thanks.

Now I think I may have encountered it, you mentioning Stalingrad and the snap-to-target effect made me remind of some battle where this guy did something similar. I was very surprised to say the least.

Powerful cheat, then. That aimbot you are talking about, it hasn't been around until recently, has it? Because lately, I have seen some people with a well above average aim. Suspected them of using an aimbot, but since I thought it was still nonexistent for MoHAA I just thought they were good players, or my performance sucked...

Powerful to a degree. Pro-cheaters will tell you that it makes them god-like, but it's not that amazing, especially with below average players.

All it does is bring an average player's aim up to the standards of an above average player. It won't help them avoid bullets.

And it's easilly spotted. Much more so than cham skins.

Alas, if you jack the FOV up to 360 it spins around for you.

u know if some one is cheating by how much they talk shit .. ie "i am the best" or "i own ur ass" every time they kill some one eatthis: also some scores that are like 50 in a obj match that only goes 10 match u kind already guess the guys cheatin. swordfight: if u just keep ur eyes open u can spot a cheater easy. M16: o and that thing some one said about walkin on concreet makes no noice is wrong it makes nocie and ppl are really tuned to hearing other ppl even across a map bigzooka: fire2:

Nein!

I get so fed up with being accused of cheating I will tend to just cuss them back and tell them they suck, but I don't cheat so your theory is a little shakey.

You can't catch a cheater by the way they talk. A lot of cheaters will keep quiet, a lot of cheaters will deny it and get all pissy.

But then a lot of non cheaters will stay quiet and a lot of non cheaters will deny it and get all pissy, too.

So, that stands for little.

Also, whoever is responsible for this site please please I am begging you for the love of all that is good remove those stupid anal emotes and replace them with normal ones.

[quote="aNti hEro":4d76d]how to spot a cheater: watch for him scoping at walls for no reason, get some cheats of your own and watch him, or check for unusual actions.[/quote:4d76d]

thats what i do, i get cheats of my own and do 'research'.

True, but I have noticed that many guys that talk a lot of smack are in fact cheating. It may only be because that is how they got my attention. Dunno, but if someone is 24-3 and talking smack, my money is on him cheating. Its not proof, but its suspicious. Players that are good enough to go 24-3 without cheating have been there before and they know how to act. Lets just say its a pretty good indicator.

One way is if you go spectater(only do nthis if u think some one cheating) and see if they are underground.