will they ever outlaw guns in america/canada?
 

gun laws are getting stricter these days. anti gun nuts and self rightous liberals apparently know whats best for us all. but think about it, will guns become extinct for the american or canadian people?
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Hi.

don't think so,

unless some Al Quaeda terrorists storm some large public place with machineguns in which case King George the Bush will ban guns in the name of "patriotism" oOo:

good luck trying to get the guns back from the rednecks, they'll fight to the death mwah:

No.

Well as an avid big game and waterfowl hunter, I don't think so. You see we need them, guns are tools to us. I agree with some of them when they say that people shouldn't be owning certain types of firearms. I don't mind all the retrictions and whatnot since it pretty much keeps the nutters from owning guns.

I think the only reason a civilian should own firearms is if he/she actually hunts. Personal defense is not needed I feel (this is Canada I'm refering to, I know the States have their crime problems). I or anybody I've known has ever been in a position where they needed a gun to defend themselves.

People who collect guns or use them for leisurely purposes should have their guns confiscated and de-activated (if the the gun is an antique and/or priceless).

Remember I'm only refering to Canada here since that's the country I'm most familiar with.

I hope not. The best government is the one that has a healthy fear of its people.

I don't think they will ever outlaw guns but I feel better living in Australia knowing the guy next door to me can't purchase an MP5 and call it a thing for defence.

I'm OK with hunting rifles and shotguns (ie trap shooting shotties)

Firearms cause more problems then they solve.

Restrictions should be made conserning who should be able to buy a gun.

If they ban guns, America will turn into France.. bunch of wusses who are afraid to do anything but want power.

And the award for most oOo: post of the day goes to nitesnipe.

Unfortunately, owning a gun does not extend your penis size nor does it make you more of a man.

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":6dbc1]Unfortunately, owning a gun does not extend your penis size nor does it make you more of a man.[/quote:6dbc1]
yah but it makes u feel like more of a man

[quote="Cpt. Obvious":d2e27][quote="Sicilian_Summers":d2e27]Unfortunately, owning a gun does not extend your penis size nor does it make you more of a man.[/quote:d2e27]
yah but it makes u feel like more of a man[/quote:d2e27]

Ignorance is bliss.

well i doubt it since we americans "have the right to bear arms" That's the literal meaning, but there are people that would like to interpret this clause.

Some people think it has been outdated by time and that we would never need a militia again anytime soon. I feel that guns are a part of our culture and if you take them away, you'd be hurting the culture too. Don't get me wrong. I don't think everyone should be walking around with an AK-47 or some sort of full-blown automatic gun.

he has a point though, I think our president would be more rash with his "anti-terror" bills (like the one that allows the Fed to spy on what books you check out) if half the country wasn't armed.

If bad comes to worse at least armed citizens can team up with those in the military who are loyal to the Consitution and the USA, NOT whoever happens to be president.

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":d5c0d]Unfortunately, owning a gun does not extend your penis size nor does it make you more of a man.[/quote:d5c0d]

you can have the biggest penis in the world, but you're still not a man if you let the government become dictatorial and corrupt.
THAT is why we need guns, to keep our idiot polticians at bay (whether Republican or Democrat, they're all the same, lying bastards trying to get policies that will improve their own life and that of their friends)

[quote="Sgt Stryker":eb083][quote="Sicilian_Summers":eb083]Unfortunately, owning a gun does not extend your penis size nor does it make you more of a man.[/quote:eb083]

you can have the biggest penis in the world, but you're still not a man if you let the government become dictatorial and corrupt.
THAT is why we need guns, to keep our idiot polticians at bay (whether Republican or Democrat, they're all the same, lying bastards trying to get policies that will improve their own life and that of their friends)[/quote:eb083]

Of course that's true.. the way NiteSnipe said it, in my opinion, just wasn't extremely intelligent. No offense to you, NiteSnipe.

Lol, so we need guns to start a military coup?

God, I never thought the situation in America was THAT bad.

[quote="Sicilian_Summers":0d90a][quote="Sgt Stryker":0d90a][quote="Sicilian_Summers":0d90a]Unfortunately, owning a gun does not extend your penis size nor does it make you more of a man.[/quote:0d90a]

you can have the biggest penis in the world, but you're still not a man if you let the government become dictatorial and corrupt.
THAT is why we need guns, to keep our idiot polticians at bay (whether Republican or Democrat, they're all the same, lying bastards trying to get policies that will improve their own life and that of their friends)[/quote:0d90a]

Of course that's true.. the way NiteSnipe said it, in my opinion, just wasn't extremely intelligent. No offense to you, NiteSnipe.[/quote:0d90a]

fair enough, all this French bashing is getting out of hand.
I suggest French bashers pick up a book and read about the "Normandie Neimen" squadron.

i belive when they outlawed guns in austrailia gun related crimes went up something like 40% ed:

[quote="Sgt Stryker":66870]fair enough, all this French bashing is getting out of hand.I suggest French bashers pick up a book and read about the "Normandie Neimen" squadron.[/quote:66870]

would you be so kind to enlighten me anout this squadron?

[quote="White Rabbit":1538c][quote="Sgt Stryker":1538c]fair enough, all this French bashing is getting out of hand.I suggest French bashers pick up a book and read about the "Normandie Neimen" squadron.[/quote:1538c]

would you be so kind to enlighten me anout this squadron?[/quote:1538c]

they were Free French who went to the USSR to fight the Germans, the krauts regarded them as resistance fighters, so anyone who was captured would be shot on site. They fought nontheless and became a very high scoring group.

[url="http://www.frenkenstein.com/ww2/Normandy-Niemen/Normandie-Niemen.htm"]http://www.frenkenstein.com/ww2/Normand ... Niemen.htm[/url]

damn the no edit button thing

note the French flag on the propeller and the Free French insignia on the tail .

The "lightning bolt" arrow on the side of the plane signifies that they were a part of General Zakharov's division.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":c1dff][quote="Sicilian_Summers":c1dff]Unfortunately, owning a gun does not extend your penis size nor does it make you more of a man.[/quote:c1dff]

you can have the biggest penis in the world, but you're still not a man if you let the government become dictatorial and corrupt.
THAT is why we need guns, to keep our idiot polticians at bay (whether Republican or Democrat, they're all the same, lying bastards trying to get policies that will improve their own life and that of their friends)[/quote:c1dff]

So let me get this straight Stryker, should people in the US start killing politicians when they are doing a lousy job? Cause that's what it sounds like to me.
Dunno.....it might just be me tho.
I have a few politicians here in Sweden that i would then execute cause they are doing a crappy job :D . But we don't have the right to bare firearms so I guess all I can do is stab the a-hole a couple of times instead.

i was dissapointed in sweeden for refusing to help finland during the winter war. but a few good 2000-3000 sweedes volenteered to defend finland. =D

[quote=BloodBorn][quote="Sgt Stryker":e60c1]you can have the biggest penis in the world, but you're still not a man if you let the government become dictatorial and corrupt.
THAT is why we need guns, to keep our idiot polticians at bay (whether Republican or Democrat, they're all the same, lying bastards trying to get policies that will improve their own life and that of their friends)[/quote:e60c1]

So let me get this straight Stryker, should people in the US start killing politicians when they are doing a lousy job? Cause that's what it sounds like to me.
Dunno.....it might just be me tho.
I have a few politicians here in Sweden that i would then execute cause they are doing a crappy job :D . But we don't have the right to bare firearms so I guess all I can do is stab the a-hole a couple of times instead.[/quote:e60c1]

no I expect politicians to do a lousy job. The only legitimate reason for people to overtrow their government (as stated by Thomas Jefferson) is when it begins to take away rights and does not follow the general mandate of the people.

The reason to take away guns is to stop violence. So if they take away guns they probably won't want you fighting or defending yourself at places. Also if they get guns banned, they will probably do their best to stop the death sentence. It would just plainly ruin America as a strong country. And also we all should know how to maintain and fire a gun incase we do have another war that requires us to be drafted, we will have some sort of experience with a gun which may be of help.

I agree. Learning proper gun safety, even if you don't actually own a gun, is always good to do.

Obviously Summers and Nitesnipe don't know jack about boot camp... the ones that have the HARDEST at basic/boot are the hillbilly rednecks who learn how to shoot when they are 5...

Want to know why!? Because they create bad habits when they are young and can't break it.

You learn what you need to know about a rifle during training.

Ya still, its better to have more experience than however long it takes with that rifle training.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":0ace5]Obviously Summers and Nitesnipe don't know jack about boot camp... the ones that have the HARDEST at basic/boot are the hillbilly rednecks who learn how to shoot when they are 5...

Want to know why!? Because they create bad habits when they are young and can't break it.

You learn what you need to know about a rifle during training.[/quote:0ace5]

Your point is well taken. Unfortunately there are too many parents teaching their children the wrong lessons regarding gun safety, and at too early of an age. I was thinking more in terms of the ordinary man, not a soldier, learning proper gun safety in order to be able to safely handle a gun.

But what you said does not surprise me at all.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":f997a]Obviously Summers and Nitesnipe don't know jack about boot camp... the ones that have the HARDEST at basic/boot are the hillbilly rednecks who learn how to shoot when they are 5...

Want to know why!? Because they create bad habits when they are young and can't break it. [/quote:f997a]

oOo:

golly. u r smart.

Yes indeed pest, Iam quite smart.

Thank you for your compliment. cool:

guns are bad

They'e only bad when your mouth is sucking on the receiving end of one.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":92e96]Want to know why!? Because they create bad habits when they are young and can't break it. [/quote:92e96]

I told you that! biggrin:

Not gonna happen, if they do there will be chaos, outlaws will keep their guns and rob unarmed stores for all they're worth.

Having a gun DOES NOT make you safer.

To (roughly) quote the movie "bowling for columbine":

"If more guns made it safer, than America would be the safest country in the world, and it is not."

Take LA for example, there are probably billions of guns in that city, and the crime rate is through the roof. So, PsychoMerc, you don't really have a point there, because outlaws are still robbing stores, whether there's a gun in the store or not.

And having a gun in your house in fact makes you less safe than not having one, as someone could pick up your gun and shot you with it, not to mention the risk of a child thinking the gun is a toy and accidently shooting someone with it. And don't just spit back, "well, just tell the kid to leave the gun alone" because, come on, lets face it, most kids will just want to play with it more, no matter what you tell them, because that's how kids are, curious, and when they get a chance, they will go looking for that gun.

My opinion, some degree of gun control is needed. For example, bolt-action rifles for hunting and target shooting are one thing, but M16's and AK47's are another, and should be illegal. Assault rifles and other fully automatic weapons have no real use that can't be just as well filled by a bolt-action or semi-auto rifle, and thus should be illegal.

Fully Automatic Weapons are banned in the USA ; Clinton did that while he wasn't getting flogged. They aren't really " banned," though, going against what I just said..They're more a long the lines of restricted sales to Civilians, yeah a Civilian can get one, but you need around 80 background checks from different agencies,and you need to take a whopper of a test on safety and percautions of use for a License to own one. No Gangster or thug is going to go through all of that just for an Auotmatic weapon, that's why there's the black market. And you can't ban the black market, now can you? Even if Guns were illegal, they'd still be around. End of Story.