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adam1185 01-14-2002 08:31 AM

Someone should create a mod that can eliminate the sniper rifle or at least make it less accurate because it has completely ruined the omaha beach map and turned it into a sniper war. If you're axis you can't even use the mg42 because the moment you step up there you're dead from someone sniping you off on the beach or in the boats and being a little pussy...I would think it would be possible to disable the sniper rifle because it it possible to change the number of grenades! This would be the sweetest mod and the omaha beach in mulitplayer could actually be similar to the single player version where it is fricking awesome!!!!!!

Thanks

Adam

acgreen 01-14-2002 08:38 AM

Look. They made this game based on real missions. Omaha Beach is obviously a very real mission. Unfortunately for the fing Germans(fuck hitler), the Allies had very good shooters. It was a fact of life for the germans to get picked off by snipers.

Unless you're a german nazi, you will be able to see how this is real.

AC

intrestedviewer 01-14-2002 08:39 AM

only thing is there wasnt that much snipeing going around omaha

adam1185 01-14-2002 08:40 AM

Yes, but the sniper rifle is way too accurate and if you stand out in the open for like a second you can pretty much bet you'll be dead right away. It just gets annoying because of that and then everyone will start to use sniper rifles and it will turn into a sniper war with all the allies just standing on the beach not moving and picking you off and all the axis standing on their hill trying to pick the allies off...

intrestedviewer 01-14-2002 08:44 AM

im sure someone ONCE THE FULL GAME COMES OUT(LEGALLY) will make a mod to ban weapons n stuff

poseyj 01-14-2002 08:48 AM

look at it this way, if your a german, and the allies are all sniping you, just sit back and guard their objective, eventually they are gonna have to come forward through the bunkers to the objective. then you can meet them with your smg while they have their sniper rifle, and who will win in a hallway? you just have to adjust based on what the enemy is using, they aren't going to win by sniping you over and over.

McDonald 01-14-2002 08:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by acgreen:
Look. They made this game based on real missions. Omaha Beach is obviously a very real mission. Unfortunately for the fing Germans(fuck hitler), the Allies had very good shooters. It was a fact of life for the germans to get picked off by snipers.

Unless you're a german nazi, you will be able to see how this is real.

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LoL, you obviously dont know too much, the allies had good shooters eh? And "unfortunately" for the Germans (not nazis) they didnt have good shooters? I hardly think it was a "fact of life" that the germans got picked off by snipers, in fact i bet only a handful of guys even got sniped on omaha. And i think you could still notice this even if you were a german ("nazi")



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guarnere 01-14-2002 09:17 AM

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01-14-2002 09:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by adam1185:
Yes, but the sniper rifle is way too accurate and if you stand out in the open for like a second you can pretty much bet you'll be dead right away. It just gets annoying because of that and then everyone will start to use sniper rifles and it will turn into a sniper war with all the allies just standing on the beach not moving and picking you off and all the axis standing on their hill trying to pick the allies off...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The sniper rifle is too accurate?? Are you fricken stupid?! Of course it's accurate...it's supposed to be! You think a sniper is going to want to use a weapon that isn't accurate?

GIVE ME A BREAK!

ZMan 01-14-2002 09:30 AM

There were snipers on Omaha beach. Simple as that. Sure, not many Germans were sniped in the bunker, but that was because the Allies were too worried about getting up the beach. But, if you get snipered, you get snipered. Quit your bitching. Too many bitchy whiners around here.

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adam1185 01-14-2002 09:41 AM

Yes i realize the sniper rifle is supposed to be accurate but it doesn't even move from the person breathing like in RTCW!

[This message has been edited by adam1185 (edited January 15, 2002).]

Dodd 01-14-2002 09:47 AM

sheesh, even in NOLF multiplayer the sniper rifle used to move around a bit. ya gotta have hands of steel to keep that line of sight so accurate in MOH http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif


Fett_72 01-15-2002 02:01 AM

I asked about this on the Board of Developers forum to see if anything was being done about it, but got nothing.

I wholeheartedly agreee with Adam, the sniper thing took away any authenticity of D-Day and ruined the beach map in RTCW for me, it's why I stoped playing that map and eventually the game.

Manny 01-15-2002 02:16 AM

Complaining...about everything...
Shotguns, Sniper Rifles, Bazookas...blablabla. It's getting dumb.

1st Pvt.Cyber 01-15-2002 02:27 AM

If the Germans could at least call artillery strikes it would be even.

Can modders put artillery strikes in Omaha?

Nacho_Man 01-15-2002 02:32 AM

Do all of you have the game or what, or am I just missing something

DaveTinCT 01-15-2002 02:42 AM

Most of the 30 man squads who landed on the beaches at Normandy carried mainly Garands (if they didn't sink to the bottom of the Channel) or Thompsons or M1 Carbines. Each group typically had a BAR or two but snipers were fairly few and far between as far as I know.
When it comes to that level, I'll be sticking with my Garand.
Dave T

[FADER] Prutt 01-15-2002 03:41 AM

"Complaining...about everything...
Shotguns, Sniper Rifles, Bazookas...blablabla. It's getting dumb."

Not really "Complaining...about everything"
But what about the object in the game(omaha map)?
It is to "Charge & destroy the guns before times up."
Not to wash your feet on the beach with a sniper rifel.

The big problem is that almost ALL the allied use the sniper rifel.
Maby 2 or 3 charge!
And the Axis geting angry and Charge the beach and boats.

Dont you guys see somthing wrong in this??

Should not this BIG HISTORICAL map be played in more realistic way?

I think it would be more fun if I know I had to really fight hard to get to that gun if I was on the Allied team.
And if I played Axis I would think it would be more fun to use the Machinguns for more then just 2 sec... then go ShhhooPOFF!!, The Axis team gets angry and Charge the beach to kill the snipers in the boats and water.

Hmmm..I never heard War stories about the Axis Storming the SEA?
Or have I mised somthing during my history lesons.

Im I wrong or should I start playing Tetris insted?

Im not Complaining, I love this game, and thats why i want to tell you whats its gonna be on that map, if someone dont do anything about it.

01-15-2002 03:44 AM

yeah thats really unfair to have the axis players up on the bluff with there kar98k sniper rifles picking us off on the beach but knowing how much of a good sniper i am ill pick off all the germans before they can react http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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01-15-2002 03:45 AM

yeah thats really unfair to have the axis players up on the bluff with there kar98k sniper rifles picking us off on the beach but knowing how much of a good sniper i am ill pick off all the germans before they can react http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Ydiss 01-15-2002 04:57 AM

I think it's a valid concern. Omaha with sniper rifles would be dull.

Anyone who disagrees with that needs to try running up the road in the hunt as an ally and survive.

It'd be futile. No matter how you move it's not hard to snipe a moving target if you have enough time to line it up.

Be tough to limit each team to an amount of any weapon, cos each game has a different aount of players. Tough one for 2015 to call.

It's still something they need to sort, though. I, for one, don't want to be forever downloading (or looking for servers that have downloaded) mods. What a mess the servers will be if modifications to the game aren't done universally.

I can tell without even trying it that the Omaha map would be much more fun without sniper rifles.

Don't need to DL the unofficial version of the game to work that out.



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Manny 01-15-2002 05:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ydiss:
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Sorry, I just think any jokes featuring Bush are funny.

But anyways, the more people play, the less they'll use the sniper rifle. That's the way it went in Day of Defeat. I have no worries.

[o2] Sosha 01-15-2002 05:48 AM

with the full version of moh being mainly big maps (so ive heard)

the sniper rifle needs to be nerfed, someone mentioned RTCW which has a very good sniper rifle, as it isnt so damn easy to use

less power, harder to use, perhaps making you slow as hell with it.. something

divisionbell77 01-15-2002 05:52 AM

The game does need limits on weapons, mainly Rockets and Sniper Rifles and Grenades.

01-15-2002 06:31 AM

REAL MISSIONS MAN!

Frost 01-15-2002 07:31 AM

LOL, yea theres bitching, but then there are morons that think they know what they talking about. So stop being morons.

I think he is saying for game balance sake maybe limit snipers. Its the same thing that happened in DOD's omaha map, snipers hiding in the water. We will have to see how it works next week.

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FuBarGrn 01-15-2002 08:35 AM

yeah...on the beach Map of RTCW...snipers own...the only things that "challenge" them are the sway in scope mode,and the axis LT's that can binoc arty srtike near them...

are airstrikes going to be avail???
If not this map is going to be pretty much useless as the allied snipers will have an advantage over the axis side....I just want the game to be fair..and not biased to one side.....

114th.Raiders_KisSes 01-15-2002 08:39 AM

hmm..
:P

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PFC.Elgert[2nd.Bn] 01-15-2002 08:51 AM

I find it hard to believe that there are no descent places forthe axis to snipe the allies on this map. A good point that was brought up was that if the Axis wait for the allies to come into the trenches with smgs they will have a decisive advantage over the Sniper rifle packing Allies

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[FADER] Prutt 01-15-2002 09:21 AM

I have played the Omaha map with 18 players, and the sniper rifel just makes the game really boring.
The Allied team just camp on the beach and sniper every one of that shows there face in the bunkers.

so much for that hard beach landing.


And about the objectivs, u can just stand their and wait next to your Canon and go and make some food or watch TV.
If you dont like to get kill in the bunker

WHY???

Almost all in the Allied team will be sniper.
So there is not much of a fight on that map.
If you dont like to be a sniper in water or a boat thats it.

Oddball 01-15-2002 09:53 AM

I mean weren't the Allies too busy to find cover for their arses cos mortars and MG's were raining down on them?

I would hate it if Omaha turned into a gay sniper map.
I feel on that particular map, maybe a cap should be put on.

Doom5 01-15-2002 10:14 AM

Stop whining, you sound like a 5 year old. Love it or leave it. Just don't stand fuckin still.

[FADER] Prutt 01-15-2002 10:14 AM

So I gave the Omaha map another try today and I played Axis with 24 player.
I gave it 5 min and then I was ready to smash my monitor to pices.
The map should have the name the "The big Allied sniping beach party"

The only way to make this map FUN, is to remove the sniper rifel or limit it to 1 or 2 for each team.

Is there away to do so then please help me out with that one??????????

If you all want that good figth assult map,
leave your sniper rifel at home.

Sand castel building on the beach is for children!

snow 01-15-2002 10:23 AM

well, that does suck, but people have already made no shotgun mods for the demo, so I'm sure it won't be long before there's a no sniper mod http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

adam1185 01-15-2002 10:24 AM

It must be possible to create a mod to remove the sniper rifle because just today someone released a mod that gets rid of the shotgun so it's probably possible to create a mod to remove the sniper rifle.

Also, no one can call in airstrikes in the omaha map. There is artillery fire that always hits the beach where the craters are but you can't control that and there's a shitload of land mines so watch out. But one good thing is that there is respawn so if you thought the hunt sucked when you had to wait for the end of the round, omaha isn't like that!

Ohgr 01-15-2002 10:52 AM

ha ha ha this is funny! Reminds me of when camping became a big piss off and people went mad trying to stop campers on maps lol


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