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[DAS REICH] Blitz 06-09-2003 03:05 PM

ATheism
 
What do you guys think about it?plz no flaming. freak:

Unknown_Sniper 06-09-2003 03:08 PM

God can rot for what I care. But really? YEah im athiest I dont care if people say im going to hell for not "Believing" I dont care. They will be going to hell for saying im going to hell so to hell with them right?

[DAS REICH] Blitz 06-09-2003 03:08 PM

strong words strong stupid words.. oOo:

Bazooka_Joe 06-09-2003 03:11 PM

If someone can post what it means, I'll pour my thoughts.

Unknown_Sniper 06-09-2003 03:12 PM

Re: ATheism
 
[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":68c4a]What do you guys think about it?plz no flaming. freak:[/quote:68c4a]
you said it not me ass

06-09-2003 03:29 PM

well, given my scientific background I cannot prove nor disprove the existance of God (or various Gods like early religions),
however science CAN DISPROVE a LITERAL INTERPRETETION of the Bible.

SO I say that man was created by evolution, but I do not deny that a higher being created evolution.

Sicilian_Summers 06-09-2003 03:41 PM

Personally, I could care less about the religious beliefs of others. They could believe in the gods of ancient Greek or Roman mythology, it doesn't make any difference to me.

Personally I do not truly follow one religion or another, as they appear to be irrational, however, I do not deny the existance of some form of a Supernatural being.

Ydiss 06-09-2003 04:08 PM

I'm not fussed about religion and have never been.

Religion is a powerful thing. Considering millions of people have believed in something that they've never ever physically seen (Or has proven categorically to exist) for thousands of years then it would have to be.

I still have yet to see clearly how believing in what is essentially a story told over thousands of years would give someone inner peace. A person could be the most devoted follower of their religion and still not be happy.

Most religions I see just impose irrational and out-dated restrictions on the way you behave in life.

All very well and good if that involves morall laws (Don't kill, steal, etc) but when it comes to stopping people from enjoying their lives so they can hopefully reach paradise when they die seems pointless to me.

You cannot prove that there is a heaven (or whatever, depending on the religion or belief) but you can prove that someone living strictly by their religion is likely to have less fun during their life. And for what?

A hope that they will go on to a glorious after-life.

All religions seem to promise that. It seems a little desperate to me.

It's all very well to have beliefs and stick to them and I respect that. I just don't understand it and never really will, I suspect.

I have many things that give me contentment in life and they are all tangible.

I try my best to be a good person and not to hurt anyone, so if I am going to "Hell" for that, then so be it.

But, seeing as I had no conscience before I was alive I very much doubt that, when my brain dies, I will still be conscious of something thereafter.

I'd rather enjoy what I have now than hope for something that I have no guarantee of getting later.

So, I don't mind religion. I am just not too bothered by it myself.

06-09-2003 04:38 PM

it boils down to this.... i use to be atheist, then agnostic, now im a believer why?

2 sceneriaos (sp)

john is on his deathbed, he lived his life atheist
jimmy is on his deathbed, he was always a believer but never a strong one

who would u rather be? im going with jimmy, i mean if its something this big why take a chance with it? better to be on the safe side

Unknown_Sniper 06-09-2003 04:43 PM

what common. do you people really belive in a GOD? THink for a minute. Just feel deep down and think...do you really think there could be a higher being?

gtboys34 06-09-2003 05:11 PM

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, if u took some time to read the bible man, u'd really understand much more(i should take my own advice on that). I gurantee 100%, if u read the bible, not whole but just bits and pieces, i bet u wouldnt be coming here dissing God and ppl who beleive in em. Hell, noone could do that

[DAS REICH] Blitz 06-09-2003 05:16 PM

Re: ATheism
 
[quote="Unknown_Sniper":af893][quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":af893]What do you guys think about it?plz no flaming. freak:[/quote:af893]
you said it not me ass[/quote:af893]tisk tisk did u get ur nap today?must be cranky...ibetcha snipers a giant poser

[DAS REICH] Blitz 06-09-2003 05:17 PM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":44998]what common. do you people really belive in a GOD? THink for a minute. Just feel deep down and think...do you really think there could be a higher being?[/quote:44998]Yes no stop being a total moron and dont make fun of other peoples religions

CaP bUsTa 06-09-2003 05:22 PM

im agnostic...i really have no idea if there is a god or not. In that way i think everyone is agnostic in a sense, even the most dedicated catholics or buddhists or muslims can never be 100% sure there is a God, just like non beleivers cant be 100% sure there isnt one.
i used to believe but thats because it was how i was raised...to believe in god. Some people say that its better to believe in a god than none at all because its safe. I thought about this, but I want to believe in a God because i truely believe, not because I want to be on the safe side. The universe is just too complicated and too deep for any of us to ever be able to comprehend.

Unknown_Sniper 06-09-2003 06:19 PM

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":6ef22][quote="Unknown_Sniper":6ef22]what common. do you people really belive in a GOD? THink for a minute. Just feel deep down and think...do you really think there could be a higher being?[/quote:6ef22]Yes no stop being a total moron and dont make fun of other peoples religions[/quote:6ef22]
BLitz your just pissed I left. You know its gonan come back to haunt you. and I was never dissing "GOD". just merely wanted people to really think. Dont listen to anything, think of anything except whether or not there is a Supreme being

geRV 06-09-2003 06:25 PM

Religion is the biggest crock of bullshit money spinner the world has ever known and still people lap it up.

Best explanation of religion i ever heard was in end of days.

[quote:59a1e]If something good happens its the will of god, if something bad happens its "he works in mysterious ways". Read through the bible what does it tell you basically? shit happens.[/quote:59a1e]

Why do i not believe in it? Basically ive been through so much fucking shit in my life i have a hard time believeing there is one almighty jackoff in control of it all. Religion = a load of fuck,

06-09-2003 06:31 PM

I beleive there is a God. I really do. It sounds like some of you people are buying into the whole humanism thing.

Also, I would like to hear this scientific evidence to deny the reality of the bible.

Unknown_Sniper 06-09-2003 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
I beleive there is a God. I really do. It sounds like some of you people are buying into the whole humanism thing.

Also, I would like to hear this scientific evidence to deny the reality of the bible.

Theres been almost no evidence of anything religious other than probably faked shrouds and a box that says Brother of Jesus which could also be Jesus(hey zues in latin)

Akuma 06-09-2003 06:48 PM

Umm... Just guess at my religious status.

geRV 06-09-2003 06:50 PM

[quote="Gothic_child180":0d876]Umm... Just guess at my religious status.[/quote:0d876]

Protestant. eek:

Akuma 06-09-2003 06:52 PM

[quote=Gerard]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Gothic_child180":e18a9
Umm... Just guess at my religious status.

Protestant. eek:[/quote:e18a9]

ed: How did you know? Yeah I'm Lutheran. All hail Martin Luther the all powerful ruler of the earth! Err... wait.....

06-09-2003 07:05 PM

I am a strong believe in God and Jesus Christ and believe that we were made from God

White Rabbit 06-09-2003 07:32 PM

[quote="Gothic_child180":8c6b1]Umm... Just guess at my religious status.[/quote:8c6b1]

satanism

06-09-2003 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
I beleive there is a God. I really do. It sounds like some of you people are buying into the whole humanism thing.

Also, I would like to hear this scientific evidence to deny the reality of the bible.

ever hear of carbon-14 dating?
blows the whole 6000 year thing out of the water with a 16" naval rifle.

06-09-2003 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sclass12
I am a strong believe in God and Jesus Christ and believe that we were made from God

"I am a strong believe"

OMG!!! homeskeweled biggrin:

just kidding biggrin:

Sicilian_Summers 06-09-2003 07:44 PM

I actually read a rather interesting piece about what was said to be "true" Satanism. I think I posted it on these forums way back when. What was stated was that Satanists don't actually believe in an evil, or wrong-doing god, or the "true" ones anyhow; but they believe in no established morals or ethics, no guidelines to follow from anyone else - only those they establish for themselves. The symbol of Satan was supposedly just a symbol of never being succombed to the faith of something they refuse to believe in, something they don't WANT to believe in.

Unknown_Sniper 06-09-2003 07:48 PM

ALso you have ot think, is SAtan really a bad guy? I mean he punishes those who have sinned for all of eternity, and for payment hes stuck in hell himself. ANd yes I know what he did to go to hell so dont bring that up.

geRV 06-09-2003 07:52 PM

Hells about as realistic as heaven, on one hand you got everyone flying about with wings and harps. On the other you got little bastards sticking pitchforks up your arsehole for eternity..... eek:

06-09-2003 07:55 PM

im learning more into a subconscious afterlife, then a pretty white clouded heaven with clouds and pretty angels flying around

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 06-09-2003 08:31 PM

Putting on the spectacles of science in expectation of finding the answer to all things signifies inner blindness.

Arch 06-09-2003 08:38 PM

I for one, had a couple of times, of doubt and belief. Right now, i'm normal, for me, i do believe, not to religious though, long time since i went to church, but i do 'respect' the belief.

Religion, sometimes seems as a way to control the human race. It can explain why things are. The bible, it's ancient, yes. Back in those times, they didn't have the knowledge we have today. They had to make up stories, make up superior beings, to explain stuff and just for control over us.

Right now, we can't prove if God is real or not. The only way of knowing is when we come to our death. Until then, we can not know, but only Hope he does exist. Hope, to me that's why some people believe strongly in him. When we are in bad times, we have to look up to something. Something for us to take comfort in, and to have Hope in.

Enough preaching lol. Bottom line is, This will only be solved within yourselves. Your own mind is the creator of what you see, and feel. We see what we believe, nothing more. I for one, hope there is a God, and heaven etc. That's why i enjoy this life. As some of you said, we should at least be on a safe side, cause we may never know, until it's our time to go.

06-09-2003 08:39 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":7004e]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sclass12
I am a strong believe in God and Jesus Christ and believe that we were made from God

"I am a strong believe"

OMG!!! homeskeweled biggrin:

just kidding biggrin:[/quote:7004e]
sop anoyin m abot ny tyop

Unknown_Sniper 06-09-2003 09:04 PM

[quote=Sclass12]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":15d40
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sclass12
I am a strong believe in God and Jesus Christ and believe that we were made from God

"I am a strong believe"

OMG!!! homeskeweled biggrin:

just kidding biggrin:

sop anoyin m abot ny tyop[/quote:15d40]

STOP trying to be all GHetto. I am hte origional mastre of mees ups fool

Innoxx 06-09-2003 09:08 PM

As I've stated before, "Religion is a means of controlling simple people."

06-09-2003 09:38 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":3a862]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
I beleive there is a God. I really do. It sounds like some of you people are buying into the whole humanism thing.

Also, I would like to hear this scientific evidence to deny the reality of the bible.

ever hear of carbon-14 dating?
blows the whole 6000 year thing out of the water with a 16" naval rifle.[/quote:3a862]

Especially when they did a test on it in which they tested a seal that was dead for 2 weeks and a freshly killed seal and they both dated thousands of years old, with thousands of years between them...

06-09-2003 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoxx
As I've stated before, "Religion is a means of controlling simple people."

so all religious people are "simple"?

06-09-2003 09:44 PM

[quote=Fallout]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":58085
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
I beleive there is a God. I really do. It sounds like some of you people are buying into the whole humanism thing.

Also, I would like to hear this scientific evidence to deny the reality of the bible.

ever hear of carbon-14 dating?
blows the whole 6000 year thing out of the water with a 16" naval rifle.

Especially when they did a test on it in which they tested a seal that was dead for 2 weeks and a freshly killed seal and they both dated thousands of years old, with thousands of years between them...[/quote:58085]

never heard of that one.

I guess you would like to explain how there are sea-fossils on Mt. Everest if not for millions of years of slow tectonic shifting.

Innoxx 06-09-2003 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallout
Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoxx
As I've stated before, "Religion is a means of controlling simple people."

so all religious people are "simple"?

Basically, yes. People in general are stupid; they're sheep. They'll believe anything if you promise them something pleasurable (ie. heaven). My guess is religion; Christianity for example was created by a few savvy politicians and other leaders over two thousand years ago.... Who wanted to control the masses easily (tell them they'll be sent to hell if they fuck up), but leave them feeling content and fulfilled for doing their duties (worship)

Stinger_Dude 06-09-2003 10:33 PM

Blitz you couldnt have a chosen a worse place than this site and forum. Well perhaps other places are worse but asking a deep philosophical and social based question is what aa.comers are bad. All you will get are stupid and ignorant answers with no fully based proof.

Low spark 06-09-2003 10:39 PM

A very wise man once said to me, "It's not you that must to believe in god, but god who must to believe in you."
This is the statement I base my beliefs on.


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