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Pyro 06-10-2003 10:35 PM

Racism
 
I'm not racist or anything...but dones' tit seem like in school or something...that if any white makes a racist comment they get in a lot of shit...but if a brown or black makes one about whites...it's not racist or anything

like people complain that theres no black people in the show friends...but no one complains about pure black coloured people shows.

It's just what I've noticed in my school anyway.

Just seems unfair...the world has changed...why give a double standard just ebcause of a past that we wer enever involved in.

Chronic Diarrhea 06-10-2003 10:41 PM

Re: Racism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I'm not racist or anything...but dones' tit seem like in school or something...that if any white makes a racist comment they get in a lot of shit...but if a brown or black makes one about whites...it's not racist or anything

like people complain that theres no black people in the show friends...but no one complains about pure black coloured people shows.

It's just what I've noticed in my school anyway.

Just seems unfair...the world has changed...why give a double standard just ebcause of a past that we wer enever involved in.

Pyro I never thought you would make a Conservative comment in your life.

Yes you are correct though, this double standard exists everywhere. Jimmy Carter established affirmative action to compensate for the way blacks were treated in the past.

This double standard is a sad thing to see. As long as people still live in the past and never give up what happened, then there will always be racism, or, at the very least, this double standard that we speak of. It is saddening, but that's the world we live in.

Innoxx 06-10-2003 10:43 PM

Black people dodn't enslave white people for over 300 years guys.

Tripper 06-10-2003 10:43 PM

Re: Racism
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I'm not racist or anything...but dones' tit seem like in school or something...that if any white makes a racist comment they get in a lot of shit...but if a brown or black makes one about whites...it's not racist or anything

like people complain that theres no black people in the show friends...but no one complains about pure black coloured people shows.

It's just what I've noticed in my school anyway.

Just seems unfair...the world has changed...why give a double standard just ebcause of a past that we wer enever involved in.

This is an intricate issue. I think just let it go. It may be a gradualist approach, but the only thing you can really do is wait it out. I can see whats going on, and things will change, IMO.

It has only been like 40 years since segregation existed....Most of the people from the black civil rights movement are still alive. I think that's where alot of the problems are.....

CaP bUsTa 06-10-2003 10:49 PM

i agree but in my school its asians. Asian gangs go around beating up white people because they have nothing better to do. If you are white however, and even make eye contact they think your a racist fuck and then get their 40 friends after you. It's really sad but thats how it is, just a select few people who start the trouble. This is why there are so many people against our Immigration laws because of "increase in crime", which is totally untrue.

Tripper 06-10-2003 10:53 PM

[quote="CaP bUsTa":32f9e]i agree but in my school its asians. Asian gangs go around beating up white people because they have nothing better to do. If you are white however, and even make eye contact they think your a racist fuck and then get their 40 friends after you. It's really sad but thats how it is, just a select few people who start the trouble. This is why there are so many people against our Immigration laws because of "increase in crime", which is totally untrue.[/quote:32f9e]

I've heard that Asians up there were nuts. Total opposite down here. They're fucking passive. Hell, I nearly hit two Korean dudes in my car today and they apologised to me for getting my way, when it was clearly my fault.

Old Reliable 06-10-2003 10:54 PM

You know why there is affirmative action? because there still are racists. Until there is no racism or racial preferencing, there is no affirmative action

Bucknub 06-10-2003 10:56 PM

man.. there are so many browns in my school..... us white people are a fuckin minority there.. when one white guy does something to a borwn guy..... those mutha fucka swarm all over.... cuz they sed "thats how we get things done" haha bitches cant do shit on there own, so they need back up,
the only things that back me up are THUNDER *kisses right bicep* and LIGHTNING * kisses left becep* biggrin:

Pyro 06-10-2003 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucKweEd
man.. there are so many browns in my school..... us white people are a fuckin minority there.. when one white guy does something to a borwn guy..... those mutha fucka swarm all over.... cuz they sed "thats how we get things done" haha bitches cant do shit on there own, so they need back up,
the only things that back me up are THUNDER *kisses right bicep* and LIGHTNING * kisses left becep* biggrin:

thats exactly what they say

I would just go ask shomari to help me out...hes a monster

CaP bUsTa 06-10-2003 10:59 PM

[quote=Tripper]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "CaP bUsTa":2918c
i agree but in my school its asians. Asian gangs go around beating up white people because they have nothing better to do. If you are white however, and even make eye contact they think your a racist fuck and then get their 40 friends after you. It's really sad but thats how it is, just a select few people who start the trouble. This is why there are so many people against our Immigration laws because of "increase in crime", which is totally untrue.

I've heard that Asians up there were nuts. Total opposite down here. They're fucking passive. Hell, I nearly hit two Korean dudes in my car today and they apologised to me for getting my way, when it was clearly my fault.[/quote:2918c]
man i cant beleive that...i wish that was how it was. Some guy in my school got into a fight with an asian a few weeks ago, and after he kicked the shit out of the asian punk, the asians friends ran the guy over in their car. They backed up over him again and he died. They just arrested two asians a few days ago and are charging them with manslaughter. The funny thing is, i can remember when it wasnt this bad, only 3 years ago. hake:

Chango 06-10-2003 11:26 PM

Re: Racism
 
[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":1b873]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I'm not racist or anything...but dones' tit seem like in school or something...that if any white makes a racist comment they get in a lot of shit...but if a brown or black makes one about whites...it's not racist or anything

like people complain that theres no black people in the show friends...but no one complains about pure black coloured people shows.

It's just what I've noticed in my school anyway.

Just seems unfair...the world has changed...why give a double standard just ebcause of a past that we wer enever involved in.

Pyro I never thought you would make a Conservative comment in your life.

Yes you are correct though, this double standard exists everywhere. Jimmy Carter established affirmative action to compensate for the way blacks were treated in the past.

This double standard is a sad thing to see. As long as people still live in the past and never give up what happened, then there will always be racism, or, at the very least, this double standard that we speak of. It is saddening, but that's the world we live in.[/quote:1b873]

Pyro: you mean the black shows that are produced by white people? and even those "pure black" shows have more white people on it then friends have black people

Chronic: Is it a double standard when I get followed around in a store because they think i'll steal something when some white guy that isn't being followed steals something and gets away with it? Then again why should I ask you, you're the one that made a thread and blamed societies problems on black culture.

Low spark 06-10-2003 11:27 PM

I don't really know about racism in schools today. but I have to say that I have yet to meet a person that is not a racist to some extent. We all seem to need to catergerize people by how they are differnt the our group of people. The problem is that we all want our group of people to be above the other groups, so we tend to find ways to demean their position...




or not.

Old Reliable 06-10-2003 11:32 PM

in my real life i don't react to people being black or white or asian or whatever, they're all people

Pyro 06-10-2003 11:34 PM

I know what you mean Chango...if a white person like walked into a store they probably wouldn't even care, but if a black person did, they would probably suspect them to be a criminal of some sorts

but some (not all) try to dress like the gangs around...you can't expect not to be looked at.

Tripper 06-10-2003 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucKweEd
man.. there are so many browns in my school..... us white people are a fuckin minority there.. when one white guy does something to a borwn guy..... those mutha fucka swarm all over.... cuz they sed "thats how we get things done" haha bitches cant do shit on there own, so they need back up,
the only things that back me up are THUNDER *kisses right bicep* and LIGHTNING * kisses left becep* biggrin:

Thunder and Lightining? You're such a fag! oOo:

Judas 06-10-2003 11:41 PM

its all about the way you present yourself and nothing to do with color imo ... if you wanna be harrassed then look and act the part and youll get it ... black, white, asian, whatever.

Judas 06-10-2003 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
its all about the way you present yourself and nothing to do with color imo ... if you wanna be harassed then look and act the part and youll get it ... black, white, asian, whatever.


Bleuachdu 06-10-2003 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoxx
Black people didn't enslave white people for over 300 years guys.

Neither did I. Neither did my parents. Neither did their parent's before them. Saying that things like Affirmative Action are to "make up" for what white people have historically done to minorities is a crock.

We often forget that Segregation lasted up until the 60s. Most of us weren't around back then (myself included) but we've go to realize that was only 40 years ago. 40 years ago, most of us wouldn't have went to school with minorities at all. In the grand scheme, thats not very long at all.

Programs like Affirmative Action are necessary for that reason. Once you young bucks(like I'm old and mature biggrin: ) get out into the real world and realize how "white" everything is, you'll start to understand more. When I was in High School, I was sooooo against Affirmative Action. But now that I've been in the job market for some time and made some real world observations, I think its fair.

Chango 06-11-2003 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I know what you mean Chango...if a white person like walked into a store they probably wouldn't even care, but if a black person did, they would probably suspect them to be a criminal of some sorts

but some (not all) try to dress like the gangs around...you can't expect not to be looked at.

funny thing is I don't even dress like i'm in a gang, but I was followed anyway, and that white guy I was talking about was someone that I saw steal something (he put a DVD in his pocket and i'm pretty sure he didn't pay for it) but the employee following didn't notice (or chose not to.) But the next time I was in the store I saw the same guy and he put something else in his pocket and I pointed him out to the employee and needless to say the guy got caught.

Tripper 06-11-2003 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleuachdu
Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoxx
Black people didn't enslave white people for over 300 years guys.

Neither did I. Neither did my parents. Neither did their parent's before them. Saying that things like Affirmative Action are to "make up" for what white people have historically done to minorities is a crock.

We often forget that Segregation lasted up until the 60s. Most of us weren't around back then (myself included) but we've go to realize that was only 40 years ago. 40 years ago, most of us wouldn't have went to school with minorities at all. In the grand scheme, thats not very long at all.

Programs like Affirmative Action are necessary for that reason. Once you young bucks(like I'm old and mature biggrin: ) get out into the real world and realize how "white" everything is, you'll start to understand more. When I was in High School, I was sooooo against Affirmative Action. But now that I've been in the job market for some time and made some real world observations, I think its fair.

This is what I was trying to say. It was ONLY 40 years ago that Black people were being openly mistreated. The people that fought that, mostly black students.....(SNCC, etc) are only coming into their 60's now. They are the influence of the youth at the moment, and for the last few decades, so you can imagine what they think of society.....

06-11-2003 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chango
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I know what you mean Chango...if a white person like walked into a store they probably wouldn't even care, but if a black person did, they would probably suspect them to be a criminal of some sorts

but some (not all) try to dress like the gangs around...you can't expect not to be looked at.

funny thing is I don't even dress like i'm in a gang, but I was followed anyway, and that white guy I was talking about was someone that I saw steal something (he put a DVD in his pocket and i'm pretty sure he didn't pay for it) but the employee following didn't notice (or chose not to.) But the next time I was in the store I saw the same guy and he put something else in his pocket and I pointed him out to the employee and needless to say the guy got caught.

Narc.... J/k,

gtboys34 06-11-2003 06:42 AM

[quote="CaP bUsTa":f2771]i agree but in my school its asians. Asian gangs go around beating up white people because they have nothing better to do. If you are white however, and even make eye contact they think your a racist fuck and then get their 40 friends after you. It's really sad but thats how it is, just a select few people who start the trouble. This is why there are so many people against our Immigration laws because of "increase in crime", which is totally untrue.[/quote:f2771] wth, are u sure ure not mistaken those asians with mexicans or something? Ive never heard( or seen or even though of) of asians beating up ppl in this country. I would never let an asian beat me down unless he knew karate or something.

Chronic Diarrhea 06-11-2003 07:31 AM

Re: Racism
 
[quote=Chango]
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Originally Posted by "Chronic Diarrhea":08875
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
Chronic: Is it a double standard when I get followed around in a store because they think i'll steal something when some white guy that isn't being followed steals something and gets away with it? Then again why should I ask you, you're the one that made a thread and blamed societies problems on black culture.


[/quote:08875]

Yeah it's a doublt standard in your case, and that's BS. And your last comment shows how narrow-minded you are. Apparently you didn't read enough of it to understand I was blaming our cultural downfall on rap music. You apparently think that was racist. I assure you I have little racist qualities about me (nobody can be purely un-racist). I have black friends, and I even hang out with a few of them because they are cool, and some of them hang out with us. You assuming I'm a racist has no grounds, as you've never met me and don't know how I act.

Vance 06-11-2003 08:01 AM

Tripper has a point, it wasn't that long ago that we had segregation...I mean the Civil War (US) was over 140 years ago...and we still got Confederate hicks out there. It will take some time, but it will get better.

Duke_of_Ray 06-11-2003 09:49 AM

Racism is so stupid. Now if whites joke about Blacks, it like a death offense. I eman, if A white cop shoots a black guy its automatically bad, people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are nothing but worthless bigot dummies who cant argue to save their lives. I was going to write and article at school about the true meaning of the Confederate Fkag for the newspaper, but the stupid teacher is such a spinelss coward that she was afraid to offend somebody in an all white,oh yea there are asians and mexicans, school, of 250 kids k-12. When I asked her who it would offend she said, It would offend her, ha what a stupid awnser. Even if there were Blacks I would still write it, becuase the way the CSA and the FLag is presented is that they where all racsist and that the North saved the black people from a life of slavery, how stupid. Racsists on any side are stupid, from the KKK to the Panthers there all idiots.

Ferich 06-11-2003 09:53 AM

I feel more comfortable in a room full of White people, than I do in a room full of Black people.

Am I racist? No.

gtboys34 06-11-2003 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferich
I feel more comfortable in a room full of White people, than I do in a room full of Black people.

Am I racist? No.

may i ask why?

Gonzo 06-11-2003 02:39 PM

yes u are right 100%. Just say i killed a black guy that would be a hate crime but if he killed me it would be ok. Thats bullshit

ED 06-11-2003 02:46 PM

[quote:6a351]Thunder and Lightining? You're such a fag![/quote:6a351]

This is well documented.

And this issue is so fucking old hat. Wanna know why folks dont give a shit if we talk about whites; because as Innox pointed out, for hundreds of years WE were the brunt of the joke. And still are to an extent with homogonized black culture being produced by white Corporations. Its identity-assassination.

There will not be racial harmony in our time. The only way to achieve this is through the deaths of SEVERAL million people.

Sergeant_Scrotum 06-11-2003 03:40 PM

in peterborough blacks are rare. its not like we boot them out of the county if one wanders in its just their arent many, like in my school of 1200 their are 3 blacks. Out here the koreans are nice though. i work at a bulk store where all the koreans come into to buy their shit for their stores. most of the time its very hard to understand them but they are really nice, funny people. some you cant understand a thing they say all i say is "sorry but i cant undertsand what your saying" & they laugh & just walk around the store & point to the things they want. their really nice people the ones iv met.

MrLevinstein 06-11-2003 04:02 PM

Its not a thing because black people are black its some of the things they do

Greg Giraldo said:
"You cant walk intoa job screaming "Where the white bitches at" flashing gang signs with your pants hanging off your ass, and expect to get it because your black."

Chango 06-11-2003 04:11 PM

Re: Racism
 
[quote="Chronic Diarrhea":50f1e]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chango
Chronic: Is it a double standard when I get followed around in a store because they think i'll steal something when some white guy that isn't being followed steals something and gets away with it? Then again why should I ask you, you're the one that made a thread and blamed societies problems on black culture.

Yeah it's a doublt standard in your case, and that's BS. And your last comment shows how narrow-minded you are. Apparently you didn't read enough of it to understand I was blaming our cultural downfall on rap music. You apparently think that was racist. I assure you I have little racist qualities about me (nobody can be purely un-racist). I have black friends, and I even hang out with a few of them because they are cool, and some of them hang out with us. You assuming I'm a racist has no grounds, as you've never met me and don't know how I act.[/quote:50f1e]

Did I ever say you were a racist? If I thought you were a racist, I would've said it out right. You're jumping to conclusions, all I said was that you made a thread blaming societies problems on "African-American culture" (as you said in your thread.) I read your thread, I fully understood what you were getting at, but the way you wrote it shows either you have very limited of knowledge of the past or you tend to not think everything through (If you think about it the internet has had much more of an impact then rap every could.) It's nice that you decided to respond to my post this time, since you completely ignored me on the other one.

Ydiss 06-11-2003 04:29 PM

After "USA V Europe" and "Atheists" I think I'm going to bow out of this likely 12 rounder biggrin:

Sergeant_Scrotum 06-11-2003 04:31 PM

i foresee it being alot longer than 12 ed:

Chango 06-11-2003 04:39 PM

[quote="Sargent_Scrotum":76469]i foresee it being alot longer than 12 ed:[/quote:76469]

nah i doubt this will make it past 4

Old Reliable 06-11-2003 04:42 PM

if I were an admin I would lock it

CaP bUsTa 06-11-2003 05:01 PM

[quote=gtboys34]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "CaP bUsTa":36c43
i agree but in my school its asians. Asian gangs go around beating up white people because they have nothing better to do. If you are white however, and even make eye contact they think your a racist fuck and then get their 40 friends after you. It's really sad but thats how it is, just a select few people who start the trouble. This is why there are so many people against our Immigration laws because of "increase in crime", which is totally untrue.

wth, are u sure ure not mistaken those asians with mexicans or something? Ive never heard( or seen or even though of) of asians beating up ppl in this country. I would never let an asian beat me down unless he knew karate or something.[/quote:36c43]
where do you live? The gangs in calgary are not that bad compared to cities like Vancouver and Toronto. People get beaten up at my school everday and about once a week i hear of someone being stabbed. The only fatality has been that poor guy who got owned by the ricer

ED 06-11-2003 05:31 PM

You folks know NOTHING about gangs till you come to the States.

My first week in High School there was a gang fight between an Blood and a Crip. The crip was JUST out of prison, the blood a simple school kid. The blood was sadly stabbed multiple times, and hasn't been the same since.

A gun was found on Freshman Campus, discharged. The culpirt never found.

The next week a poor white guy had his head smashed in on the pavement by a huge Samoan monster. This was virtually in front of the principals office.

My English Teacher had her drink poisoned with bleach. I guess someone reacted badly to their poor grade.

Etc, etc.

Vance 06-11-2003 05:57 PM

That was then, this is now Ed. I've never heard of that stuff happening anymore, at least not where I live......

CaP bUsTa 06-11-2003 06:12 PM

ed where did you go to school


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