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06-29-2003 09:01 AM

12 Killed As Porch Collapses in Chicago
 
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[quote:69ce2]12 Killed As Porch Collapses in Chicago
By BRANDON LOOMIS

CHICAGO (AP) - The overloaded third-floor porch of an apartment building collapsed during a party early Sunday, sending people and debris crashing to the ground. Twelve young people were killed and as many as 35 others were injured, authorities said.

There may have been dozens of people on the third-floor porch when it collapsed shortly past midnight, knocking the second-floor deck to the ground as well and trapping some people in a basement stairwell, authorities said.

``There was chaos,'' Chicago Fire Commissioner James Joyce said of the scene that greeted the first emergency workers to arrive. ``There were people screaming and crying in the alley.''

Joyce said 11 people were pronounced dead at the scene and 35 others were taken to area hospitals. The Cook County Medical Examiner's office later confirmed that another person was pronounced dead at Advocate Illinois Medical Center.

The collapse occurred just south of the Wrigleyville neighborhood on the city's North Side.

``It was simply a case of too many people in a small space,'' Joyce said.

Fina Cannon, a young woman who was at the party, said a large number of people had been on the third-floor porch, and others were on the second-floor porch. She said all the guests were in their early 20s, and many had graduated several years ago from New Trier High School in Chicago's northern suburbs.

Cannon told Chicago cable television station CLTV that she had entered the building from the rear porch area, but avoided the decks after getting to the party. She said she was in the back kitchen, looking out at the porch when it collapsed.

``All of a sudden I saw all these heads going down,'' Cannon said. ``The floor just dropped out from underneath them. They all went down in unison.''

Michelle Myers, the mother of one young man who had been on the porch, said her son managed to jump to the kitchen doorway as the floor gave way.

Joyce, the fire commissioner, issued a message of caution about safety during Chicago's annual Gay Pride Parade, which was scheduled for later Sunday in the same general neighborhood.

``It's a tragic case of overloading the back porches,'' he said. ``We have concern over tomorrow (Sunday). We know that tomorrow is a big day in this community with the parade, and we urge everyone to use common sense and not overload the porches.''

Chicago Police said as many as 40 or 50 people may have been on the porch at the time of the collapse - far more than the building's decks are designed to hold, according to neighbors.

``The porches back there could probably facilitate 20 to 30 people,'' said one neighbor, Dr. David Guelich, an orthopedic surgeon at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, where some of the victims were taken.

Witnesses said the rails of the third-floor porch were still in place several hours after the collapse, but the floor had fallen out completely.

Neighbors said they saw emergency workers using chain saws to cut through the debris to get to the victims.


06/29/03 07:23 [/quote:69ce2]

OWNED, serves them right, my neighbors are like that, playing their "music" at 0100 when some of use have to sleep for an exam, and driving their cars with the stereo all the way up at night.

just wait till I aquire an M-203 biggrin:

[DAS REICH] Blitz 06-29-2003 09:21 AM

OWNED?Your very sick...thats horrible eek:

Unknown_Sniper 06-29-2003 12:59 PM

yeah stryker. I know hte feeling of idiot out at 1am blaring music but this is beyond a believeable punishment

Strik0r 06-29-2003 01:35 PM

i agree. selfish idiots end up dieing from their own ignorance? 12 less possible aa.com n00bs in the world.

JBird 06-29-2003 07:32 PM

owned. omg rot in hell you fuckhole. i live behind a bar in chicago, you think your little pussy neighbors are bad, try living behind a bar, baby.

06-29-2003 07:50 PM

what's wrong n00b, not getting it up the ass anymore?

Jedi Marksman 06-29-2003 08:48 PM

Re: 12 Killed As Porch Collapses in Chicago
 
OWNED, serves them right, my neighbors are like that, playing their "music" at 0100 when some of use have to sleep for an exam, and driving their cars with the stereo all the way up at night.

just wait till I aquire an M-203 biggrin:[/quote]

A little extreme, don't you think?

Stinger_Dude 06-29-2003 08:50 PM

Thats gotta suck,

JBird 06-29-2003 09:05 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":16745]what's wrong n00b, not getting it up the ass anymore?[/quote:16745]

your calling me a noob? omg your a bigger idiot that i thought you were. fuck off, i think saying owned about people dying is retarded.

p.s. complaining about neighbors turning their "stereo" up is a non issue. try livin behind a huge bar/nightclub that has thumping bass, asshole drunks throwin beer bottles inyour backyard. loud ass drunks fightin in the parkinglot until 330 am.

JBird 06-29-2003 09:07 PM

thought i would add. ive been here a year, how does that make me a noob. fuck , im not even at 1000 posts yet and ive been here a year. what did i do to you? asshole. 800 posts in a yr, i think that would imply non-noob jerk.

Strik0r 06-29-2003 09:08 PM

[quote="|ANIMAL| 1SG Jaybird":7f061]i think saying owned about people dying is retarded. [/quote:7f061]

why? they deserved it for being so stupid. there was even a notice about not to fucking do that because the deck can't support it.

JBird 06-29-2003 09:09 PM

[quote=Strik0r]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "|ANIMAL| 1SG Jaybird":7dc65
i think saying owned about people dying is retarded.

why? they deserved it for being so stupid. there was even a notice about not to fucking do that because the deck can't support it.[/quote:7dc65]

hey , im no ned fuckin flanders, dont get me wrong. but people dying and saying owned just doesnt strike me as funny. does this include natural disasters too? holy cow f5 tornado killed 70 in kansas yesterday , owned! eek:

06-29-2003 09:19 PM

[quote=Strik0r]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "|ANIMAL| 1SG Jaybird":ae67e
i think saying owned about people dying is retarded.

why? they deserved it for being so stupid. there was even a notice about not to fucking do that because the deck can't support it.[/quote:ae67e]

right on, it's just natural selection at work, the stupid people get removed from the gene pool by their own stupid deeds.

Rannoch 06-29-2003 09:33 PM

Why would you have any idea that the freakin floor was going to give way? I mean damn, its not somethin you think about all the time. They said it all went down at once, and like anyone heard it creaking or anything?! No.

That sucks.

06-29-2003 09:38 PM

the people killed were on the LOWER PORCH, meaning the top one came down on them, squashing them between the pavement and the upper porch. I dont think its the peop,e on the lower porches fault, your just retarded going "Owned, they deserved it" What about you, i bet you have probably been to one of those kind of parties. If the deck collapsed, killing you, would you like people saying "Owned, damn fucktard"

Unless these people could see through walls (wallhacks), they would not be able to see all those people above them. So think before you speak

Strik0r 06-29-2003 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rannoch
Why would you have any idea that the freakin floor was going to give way? I mean damn, its not somethin you think about all the time. They said it all went down at once, and like anyone heard it creaking or anything?! No.

That sucks.

because they received a fucking notice about it in may

06-29-2003 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rannoch
Why would you have any idea that the freakin floor was going to give way? I mean damn, its not somethin you think about all the time. They said it all went down at once, and like anyone heard it creaking or anything?! No.

That sucks.

read the article and look at picture

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/st ... 30629CX114

I do not believe it is too wise to attempt to cram that many people on such a small-ass deck. In fact anyone with half a brain would know better, apparently these people were students from the athletic or political science departments.

06-29-2003 09:43 PM

sorry, article says one was a law student, it figures, only a bunch of dumbass lawyers oOo:

06-29-2003 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sclass12
the people killed were on the LOWER PORCH, meaning the top one came down on them, squashing them between the pavement and the upper porch. I dont think its the peop,e on the lower porches fault, your just retarded going "Owned, they deserved it" What about you, i bet you have probably been to one of those kind of parties. If the deck collapsed, killing you, would you like people saying "Owned, damn fucktard"

Unless these people could see through walls (wallhacks), they would not be able to see all those people above them. So think before you speak

1. I understood form the original article that both floors were part of a large party
2. you don't need a wallhack to tell that there is a herd of elephants overhead

Old Reliable 06-29-2003 09:50 PM

ah how funny how emotions work....when someone dies who is not close to you...you don't care. but otherwise you pay close attention. any of you bitching about playing music loud at 1 a.m must not have much of a nightlife...rofl

06-29-2003 09:52 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":f3a78]ah how funny how emotions work....when someone dies who is not close to you...you don't care. but otherwise you pay close attention. any of you bitching about playing music loud at 1 a.m must not have much of a nightlife...rofl[/quote:f3a78]

no we just care about not failing our finals and getting shitty jobs

Old Reliable 06-29-2003 09:53 PM

what are you bitching about? there's a thing called a library where people can study in silence. a good student always finds a quiet place to study

06-29-2003 09:54 PM

like what old reliable said, f its someone you never knew, who the fuck cares. But if your friend or relative was kileld by that, i think your opinions would be different

Eight Ace 06-29-2003 10:12 PM

...yes, that's why at funerals, the friends and family of the deceased generally
tend to outnumber the people who have never even heard of the deceased... oOo:

06-29-2003 10:37 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":89e66]what are you bitching about? there's a thing called a library where people can study in silence. a good student always finds a quiet place to study[/quote:89e66]

I do not study at 0100 the day of the final, I sleep

Bazooka_Joe 06-30-2003 11:32 AM

THey don't have the pic in that article, but the porch looked like it was 80 years old.

pest 06-30-2003 11:36 AM

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":11d5f]THey don't have the pic in that article, but the porch looked like it was 80 years old.[/quote:11d5f]

I just saw an article that said the porch was struturally sound and built in 1998. Just too many people.

[url="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90733,00.html"]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90733,00.html[/url]

Simo Häyhä 06-30-2003 12:21 PM

what a waste

ED 06-30-2003 01:41 PM

Incredibly ASININE to yell "owned" at a couple of partying kids crushed like that. Absolutely the height and epitome of ignorance. I dont know about any of you, but on my porch - on the third floor - there is no warning level detailing the stability and weight limits of the concrete porch.

06-30-2003 05:37 PM

[quote="ED! Ban #127":7930c]Incredibly ASININE to yell "owned" at a couple of partying kids crushed like that. Absolutely the height and epitome of ignorance. I dont know about any of you, but on my porch - on the third floor - there is no warning level detailing the stability and weight limits of the concrete porch.[/quote:7930c]

one would figure that if you can barely move about you have too many people on.

Captain Bunny 07-01-2003 04:08 PM

[quote="|ANIMAL| 1SG Jaybird":36297][quote="Sgt Stryker":36297]what's wrong n00b, not getting it up the ass anymore?[/quote:36297]

your calling me a noob? omg your a bigger idiot that i thought you were. fuck off, i think saying owned about people dying is retarded.

p.s. complaining about neighbors turning their "stereo" up is a non issue. try livin behind a huge bar/nightclub that has thumping bass, asshole drunks throwin beer bottles inyour backyard. loud ass drunks fightin in the parkinglot until 330 am.[/quote:36297]

Well what do you expect when you live behind a bar? A freindly sing song and melodic music, with merry people greeting you with a hello?

JBird 07-01-2003 04:25 PM

yes eek: thats what i expect. :| the point i was trying to make is that neighbors being loud isnt that big of a deal, some people are less fortunate and have to deal with that noise every night.

Captain Bunny 07-01-2003 04:38 PM

If you lived in a quiet residential area and a bunch of people moved in next door and made a hell of a noise each night - it would be a big deal.

JBird 07-01-2003 05:54 PM

im sure its not everynight, but whatever. im done with this .


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