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madrebel 01-18-2002 04:50 AM

I looked through the files for CPR. Some of the changes they made are horrible.

The MGs are alot more accurate in CPR that in normal, how is that realistic?

The damage levels for the SMG and MG, although arguably more realistic, arent fun.

I havent checked out the shotty yet.

Here is what im going to do.

Change the damage on the SMG/MG back to default.

Limit to 3 Nades.

Limit to 3 Rockets.

Slightly Lower the CPR M1 Damage and keep the mauser damage the same.

Change the Pistol Damages back to Default.

Why? Because im sick of no talent Machine Gun Whores who sit at the opposite end of the map shooting FULL AUTO and still hitting a target.

Im sick of 2 shot kills by machine guns. It takes away from the fun IMO. If you want quick kills learn to hit the head.

that is all for now. ill host it on my own server for download if i have to.

[EC]Mjr. Winters 01-18-2002 05:35 AM

ok now madrebel, i wont start flaming you now, cuz i did that once and it turned out to be a joke. BUT WTF !? PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARE JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/mad.gif

b0n0 01-18-2002 05:39 AM

Would be nice if you did, the smg's and mg's are way to accurate.

[EC]Mjr. Winters 01-18-2002 05:39 AM

i cant beleive this............ omg

Capt_CruncH 01-18-2002 05:53 AM

Id just like 3 granades, no rockets and leave the rest the same as default.
But its sooo close to game time to be making mods imho. Mods revive the games, and this one aint even started yet.

4 more days!
4 more days!

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8827Echo 01-18-2002 05:59 AM

OMG, CPR is a realism mod, not a better gameplay mod. The weapons are designed to kill as in real life. If you don't like CPR, don't play on the servers.

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[EC]Mjr. Winters 01-18-2002 07:09 AM

well ive seen its no joke
madrebel your so fucking stupid
lol SG, RLs, now the Mgs, idiot
go play some kiddy game lamer

Covak 01-18-2002 07:46 AM

Welp, we didn't touch the accuracy of the MGs. In the latest version, though, the SMGs are less accurate.

If you don't like CPR then there are PLENTY of non-CPR servers for ya http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
http://www.force137.com/CPR/

Ydiss 01-18-2002 07:49 AM

This does not deserve any flames. He's said why he doesn't CPR and said what he wants to do about it. Constructive, I'd say.

I will try this mod out if it is made, sounds worth as try to me.

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FuBarGrn 01-18-2002 08:50 AM

As will I.... and can you change the spread of the shotty?Make it to where you have to be in the same room to kill...I dunno 10-15% spread increase?
The three rockets sounds nice, I'd like to see none,though...

good Luck,man....

true 01-18-2002 11:39 PM

reb what are the server's hours?

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madrebel 01-18-2002 11:52 PM

24/7 till monday, normal buisiness days its 5pm/8am

true we will have a homelan server too once the rtail game is out

madrebel 01-19-2002 12:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SS.SGW-Siggi:
Full realism...you get hit solidly by ONE round, from ANY firearm, you go down. Bring it on and save this game from the PlayStation league. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>how is that fun or skillful? any moron with a 2 dollar mouse can hit you with one lucky shot. case in point, you.

it takes skill to hit your opponent more than once.


Hellbaby2065 01-19-2002 12:45 AM

Mauser too accurate? My ass! Of course it's accurate, it's a freaking bolt-action rifle!!!!!!! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/mad.gif Have you ever tried to use that weapon? You wouldn't be saying it is "too powerful" if you had.

I agree with most of what you say, madrebel, but there are a couple things I must mention:

1. Why reduce the damage on the M1? Rifles require the most skill in my opinion, and are way too weak in the regular version.

2. It would seem more "realistic" to me to simply reduce the accuracy on the st-44, and leave the damage the same...

Hellbaby2065 01-19-2002 12:47 AM

BTW, is Kung-Fu Theater a west coast server? Usually you have the lowest ping I can find..
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CNR Sturmer 01-19-2002 01:15 AM

what a bunch of crap. whats wrong with machineguns that kill with 2 bullets? its darn realistic. The fact that you don't like it when someone shoots across the street and hits a target is the way it is in real life...you just wanna be able to kill from 2 feet away, which to me sounds like you are either a quaker, or someone with a 14 inch monitor that cant see the enemy on screen from big distances.

madrebel 01-19-2002 03:29 AM

no its not realistic.

realistically if you got hit by even one MG bullet you would drop. If you got hit twice you would probably slowly bleed to death.

Oh wait that isnt modled in your "realism mod".

Dont give up fun for realism. Dont dumb down the game either. If people are harder to hit/kill then it takes more SKILL to play the game.


oh also, i have a 22" NEC FE 1250+ monitor. I come from a tribes background. Ive played that game competatively for over 3 years.

Ok the final version of my changes is done and on my server. If anyone else wants it let me know.

here is what it is.

3 nades
3 rockets
the mauser is as powerful as the sniper rifle.

madrebel 01-19-2002 04:27 AM

yeah its in southern california.


WileyP 01-19-2002 04:42 AM

You use a scoped rifle and wear black,now you can really rack up a kill ratio while the rest just shoot holes in the sky.

That takes a lot of skill bud

Hellbaby2065 01-19-2002 04:42 AM

Cool! Thx for running a server nearby. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif
BTW, did you read my former post?

quiet 01-19-2002 05:09 AM

MadRebel,

Here are my ideas for a realism mod when the the full version is out - perhaps you can consider this:
http://www.geocities.com/justsomegee...modsuggestions

[This message has been edited by quiet (edited January 19, 2002).]

Hellbaby2065 01-19-2002 05:21 AM

Hey Quiet, you say in your MoHAA server FAQ that having a comp networked with the deticated server is just as bad as a non-dedicated...

That can't be true. I recently visited Fragpuppy's T-1, Kibbles was networked with the server, full 32 players, no lag at all.
How would someone networked with the server make any more difference than another user logged on remotely? From what I know about TCP-IP and bandwith, this cannot cause any more lag, especially on a 100TX ethernet network..

SS.SGW-Siggi 01-19-2002 05:26 AM

Full realism...you get hit solidly by ONE round, from ANY firearm, you go down. Bring it on and save this game from the PlayStation league. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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divisionbell77 01-19-2002 08:19 AM

I'll agree that they are TOO accurate, but their damage is fine.

It should actually take ONE shit to kill, instead of the two you are bitcing about.

b0n0 01-19-2002 09:05 AM

Not changed the accuracy on the mg's??? Then why can the stg-44 be used as a sniper even when running, doesn't sound very realistic too me...

[This message has been edited by b0n0 (edited January 19, 2002).]

Frost 01-19-2002 09:40 AM

I agree that with the realism mod the stg44 is a bit too uber. It doesnt spread enough and you can really own with it. The rest seems ok except the mauser still seems too weak. Ive planted one in the square of the back of a guy only to have to put another in him.

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114th.Raiders_KisSes 01-19-2002 09:46 AM

Mauser the same?? are u sick in ur head that gun is waaaaaaaaay to acurate.. Fix it

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madrebel 01-19-2002 10:04 AM

why are you flaming me and calling me a lamer? i dont suck at this game im very good actually. there isnt a huge difference. but the MGs/SMGs are not, IMO, fun.

Headshots are one thing, but getting shot twice on an extremely difficlt angle shot from across the map by someone who is going full auto with a MG is stupid. Ive seen it happen over n over n over.

Personally i feel this takes away from the skill and challenge of the game.

So guess what, if you dont like my MOD dont play it. I think most hardcore players will like it though.

Capt_CruncH 01-19-2002 10:11 AM

just ignore the jackasses.
I look forward to a new cpr mod, your right the mg is too accurate, and give em 1 rocket.

madrebel 01-19-2002 10:25 AM

thanks for the support.

ok so far all ive done is limit the rockets to 3, and you move at 80% when carrying the rocket launcher.

nades are limited to 3 too.

Ill have it on my server -W- KungFu Theater lowping (208.22.111.69) in a few minutes.

Thanks to the CPR guys for leaving //notes in the config files they changed. without you this would have taken a bit longer.

madrebel 01-19-2002 11:07 PM

quite thats cool and all but youre basically wanting to make a full mod.

I just want to make the default more fun. 6 rockets/nades isnt fun in my book


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