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[2ndS.S.]Enigma 08-22-2003 08:17 AM

Stop it!
 
Ok what the fuck is wrong with you people. You have CPT.Obvious posting log pictures and you have other people posting crap... WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. Seriously, don't you have anything better to do? GO outside and get a breath of fresh air go to a bar get a girl drunk and get laid. Do not sit at your computer desk and post crap all day while there are no forums. You are going to get banned as soon as power is restored so why post shit?!

Strik0r 08-22-2003 08:21 AM

who cares

Zoner 08-22-2003 08:22 AM

It's because a lot of people here have the mental capacity of a boiled parsnip.

Don't expect that to change anytime soon.

Stinger_Dude 08-22-2003 08:23 AM

Re: Stop it!
 
[quote="[2ndS.S.]Enigma":d24c7]Ok what the fuck is wrong with you people. You have CPT.Obvious posting log pictures and you have other people posting crap... WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. Seriously, don't you have anything better to do? GO outside and get a breath of fresh air go to a bar get a girl drunk and get laid. Do not sit at your computer desk and post crap all day while there are no forums. You are going to get banned as soon as power is restored so why post shit?![/quote:d24c7]

Dont you have better things to do than complain at other people on an INTERNET FOURM young boy?

Strik0r 08-22-2003 08:26 AM

ironically none of this would be happening if badscript had left it alone.

hope you guys like your aa.com back oOo:

Webb 08-22-2003 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strik0r
ironically none of this would be happening if badscript had left it alone.

hope you guys like your aa.com back oOo:

This is just happening because of the NWO boys.
[img]http://www.new-traffic.com/ezcompany/72c907d0.jpg[/img]

Sicilian_Summers 08-22-2003 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strik0r
who cares


Strik0r 08-22-2003 08:42 AM

i'm still mad at wr for cutting off my name. it must be since i was the only one legally appointed to the position cry:

rudedog 08-22-2003 08:58 AM

I finally had to chime in.

Enigma posts an innocent thread ( and a good one) and all the fucktards have to chime in with senseless rederick (sp).

Funny thing is, the problem with these forums was caused by the so called NWO guys or VETS as you like to say. Maybe if you STFU once in a while and contributed to the forums without complaining about them, the noobs would not blindly follow you and cause the same shit you caused to bring these forums down.

To all the noobs: I would much rather have a forum with leaders then kiss ass followers. Try to grow some backbone and lead for a change. Following will only get you a job at Burger King cleaning bathrooms when your 30.


What good does your senseless comments give this thread? This is what is wrong with the forums. A site owner does not need to babysit his site 24/7. Moderators do not need to babysit a site 24/7 . A moderator should only have to let the newer members know some of the rules they may have overlooked when they singed up.

Some moderators have to lock many many threads because the so called "Vets" have nothing good to add to any thread. This then enrages the "vets" and they feel the need to start flame wars with the moderators because they lock too many threads. Well wake up and smell the coffee if you started offering some assistance with the forums and stopped bitching all the time the forums would not be like this. You don't have to be a moderator to help the forums. All you have to do is contribute USEFUL post and comments.

Don't give me " oh moderator X started it bla bla bla..." because every time a so called "VET" opens his mouth he/she looks like a complete asshole.

What get's me is you complain about forums but you NEVER want to do anything constructive. Oh ya taking over a board is constructive.

One last thing. Please enlighten me on how this board was hacked? If by an admin giving another member admin rights is hacking, oh shit I must be reading the wrong articles. Your just feeding the noobs, a fake god like image.

If you want to help this board do one of several things:

one: start contributing to the aa.com community by offering other members help and assistance to their questions. ( not picutes if "shit" )

two: if you feel someone has posted something off topic, don't flame them let a moderator know ( you know the position you do not want or even respect ) or you could always POLITELY tell them "hey you should post here"

Three: get the fuck out. you don't like it leave. You go to a restaurant and order a meal. You hate it. Do you go back every week and get the same shitty food no and then complain about it? Then why stick around here. It's funny how many people can complain about this place and hopes it goes under faster then the titanic. Guess what, if you and everyone else who hates this place leaves. Then this place will go under just like the Titanic or it will get better ( think about that one for a while )

Let the stupid ass "Vets" Comment begin.........

Zoner 08-22-2003 09:05 AM

/me stands up and applauds rudedog.

Obvious, you just personified rude's point.

Bean 2 08-22-2003 09:07 AM

Why doesnt rude take over. He actually knows what hes doing and is respected here.

rudedog 08-22-2003 09:09 AM

See Cpt. Obvious. you proved my point.

And the "vets" get a kick out of this and will encourage more of this. Then complain this place is going to the shitter.

no pun intended Cpt. Obvious.

Ydiss 08-22-2003 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
See Cpt. Obvious. you proved my point.

And the "vets" get a kick out of this and will encourage more of this. Then complain this place is going to the shitter.

I can guarantee none of us condone Mr Obvious and any fellow spammers.

I certainly don't.

Bane 08-22-2003 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner91
/me stands up and applauds rudedog.

Nice job, RD.

rudedog 08-22-2003 09:14 AM

[quote="Bean 2":d821f]Why doesn't rude take over. He actually knows what hes doing and is respected here.[/quote:d821f]

Thanks Bean, appreciate that.


I don't have to take over. The members can do it themselves without admin rights or moderator privileges.

They just need to start helping others and post useful stuff.

Off topic BS does not mean post flame wars or talk about gay sex. It means talk about something other then MOH:AA

I guess the vets never figured that out.

rudedog 08-22-2003 09:19 AM

I understand Ydiss. You are one of the few guys I still respect a lot. If we all work together to we can bring this place back from the dark side.


off topic.

Wouldn't it be funny if this was a experiment or project BS has been putting together over the last 2 years. To study the how people act and react on the Internet.

All we know this could be his final theses for his Masters degree in physiology.

Sicilian_Summers 08-22-2003 09:23 AM

Nice post Rude. The average member here DOES respect you.

By the way, my senseless rederick (heh), was just the way I feel about this whole thing - I could really care less. Whether or not this sounds remorseless or incompassionate (if that's even a word), I really don't care.

Drew 08-22-2003 09:25 AM

My stance:

I think the site was spiraling downward, without much hope of coming out of said spiral. Then the takeover happened. I completely disagree with what went on there. I think Gerard admining anti just to use anti as a puppet to take the blame for his idea was a severe violation of trust. But it can't be argued that the takeover did inject life back into the forums.

However that too was but a brief solution. As a result of the takeover, we've lost several of the prominent community members forever. More and more are falling away every single day because of idiots posting 3 pages of spam or pictures of their mother's feces in every thread. More will leave ten minutes from now, and more will leave tomorrow.

This site needs a whole lot of help if it ever wants to pull up. It needs strong leaders who know what they are doing. I'm sorry, Joe, but an administrator needs to be respected, but not for fear of banishment or for reward of privelage, but instead for the job that they do as an administrator and what they accomplish. Again, I'm sorry, but I think we both know that you'll never be able to garnish the full respect of the community.

I feel like this site is gradually slipping away from even BadScript, and I'm afraid I'm not sure there is anything - short of BadScript appointing a Head Administrator with the necessary access to install critical phpBB2 mods which can allow for this site to be appropriately moderated - that can be done.

All I can suggest is that the community, which I have grown fond of - good and bad both - remain at least in some facet intact. Several members of these boards can be found at [url=http://www.movv.com:1dc62]Noctis Online[/url:1dc62] (Run by myself) and [url=http://www.general-gamers.net]General-Gamers.net[url] (Run by Innoxx and Gerard's brother).

Hopefully, however, BadScript will get a staff in here and grant them the ability to save the site for him.

AADiC_ 08-22-2003 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
My stance:

I think the site was spiraling downward, without much hope of coming out of said spiral. Then the takeover happened. I completely disagree with what went on there. I think Gerard admining anti just to use anti as a puppet to take the blame for his idea was a severe violation of trust. But it can't be argued that the takeover did inject life back into the forums.

However that too was but a brief solution. As a result of the takeover, we've lost several of the prominent community members forever. More and more are falling away every single day because of idiots posting 3 pages of spam or pictures of their mother's feces in every thread. More will leave ten minutes from now, and more will leave tomorrow.

This site needs a whole lot of help if it ever wants to pull up. It needs strong leaders who know what they are doing. I'm sorry, Joe, but an administrator needs to be respected, but not for fear of banishment or for reward of privelage, but instead for the job that they do as an administrator and what they accomplish. Again, I'm sorry, but I think we both know that you'll never be able to garnish the full respect of the community.

I feel like this site is gradually slipping away from even BadScript, and I'm afraid I'm not sure there is anything - short of BadScript appointing a Head Administrator with the necessary access to install critical phpBB2 mods which can allow for this site to be appropriately moderated - that can be done.

All I can suggest is that the community, which I have grown fond of - good and bad both - remain at least in some facet intact. Several members of these boards can be found at [url=http://www.movv.com:e7f69]Noctis Online[/url:e7f69] (Run by myself) and [url=http://www.general-gamers.net]General-Gamers.net[url] (Run by Innoxx and Gerard's brother).

Hopefully, however, BadScript will get a staff in here and grant them the ability to save the site for him.

Great post, hope it comes to pass.

Low spark 08-22-2003 09:50 AM

Nice posts Noctis and Rude Dog.

I have to agree with RD about some of the "Vets" they seem to think that none of the rules should apply to them.
I used to enjoy this site, there was a variety of posts, from religon to just goofy posts. Now it seems that no can just enjoy the banter without have to take some side in whatever battle is going on between differnt people here.
I have probably contributed to these problems(as most of us have), in some way. If I have offended anyone here, my appologies.

ENJOY
Low Spark.

gtboys34 08-22-2003 09:52 AM

ya know how ppl are always talking about "well its just an internet forum"

well im sick of that bs talk. Yes it is an internet forum! Where we all talk

about common things(ie. general discussion,tech questions,moh,bs etc.)

Everyone who says that crap is just trying to hide their true feelings about

their "real" life and there are some others who actually try to get 70% of

the guys who say"its just an internet forum" to try not to take this ie life so

seriously. Well thats a little hard to do b/c im quite sure alot of the guys

who come here( including me) feel a sense of euphoria(happiness) when

they're posting on this forum. It's fun to be someone else who ure really

not for a change. Thats what the whole freakin internet "community" is all

about nowadays. So some of you ask "Why not leave if u dont like the

biatching and the complaining and moaning around here?". Why not?? B/c

they love this place to a certain degree. Its just like a wife who who has just

found out that her husband was cheating on her with her bestfriend and

then 4give him. Same exact concept. "Most" of the ppl here dont really get

bothered by the spam and flaming. Maybe some do but most don't. I

mean if they really got fed up with it they'd let ya know by atleast coming

to your front door but i dont think these fauks here would do something like that mwah:.

bottom line its not just an internet forum, its your life. And don't try and deny, which i know some of u will, but just try have ure "pridepass" revoked for 5 secs to let that reality sink into ure skull.

Hollywood 08-22-2003 10:10 AM

FINALLY Rude grows some balls and tells it how it is biggrin:

Maybe they don't listen to me, but the almighty Rude who all the "vets" seem to look up to should now maybe realize that they need to grow the fuck up.

Hey, I have an idea, everything else has been tried, including making the immortal "vets" moderators. Let's get rid of them, let ED be moderator of his growing community of 3 members and let the rest hang out six-online. I bet you then and only then will the board actually turn into something that doesn't resemble a meeting of Parliment...constant arguing and bullshit that never really seems to solve anything.

Dragonwraith 08-22-2003 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood
Hey, I have an idea, everything else has been tried, including making the immortal "vets" moderators. Let's get rid of them, let ED be moderator of his growing community of 3 members and let the rest hang out six-online. I bet you then and only then will the board actually turn into something that doesn't resemble a meeting of Parliment...constant arguing and bullshit that never really seems to solve anything.


Hollywood 08-22-2003 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonwraith
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood
Hey, I have an idea, everything else has been tried, including making the immortal "vets" moderators. Let's get rid of them, let ED be moderator of his growing community of 3 members and let the rest hang out six-online. I bet you then and only then will the board actually turn into something that doesn't resemble a meeting of Parliment...constant arguing and bullshit that never really seems to solve anything.



[2ndS.S.]Enigma 08-22-2003 10:39 AM

Oh also to all you people the "vets"

A vet is not a person who is a fucktard and goes around messing the forums up. I was here before the moh aa demo was here and I AM A VET But i do not go around making this forum any worst. People who do that are n00bs, not vets. Vets are ph34r3d from the n00bies and n00bies want to be them because they are the respected one in the forums...

Stop jacking the forums up mad:

ED! 08-22-2003 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood
FINALLY Rude grows some balls and tells it how it is biggrin:

Now if only little bro can do the same.

[quote:0de03]Maybe they don't listen to me, but the almighty Rude who all the "vets" seem to look up to should now maybe realize that they need to grow the fuck up.[/quote:0de03]

You want to know the true sign of insanity, doing something more than once expecting a different outcome each time.

Think on that sucka.

[quote:0de03]Hey, I have an idea, everything else has been tried, including making the immortal "vets" moderators. Let's get rid of them, let ED be moderator of his growing community of 3 members and let the rest hang out six-online. I bet you then and only then will the board actually turn into something that doesn't resemble a meeting of Parliment...constant arguing and bullshit that never really seems to solve anything.[/quote:0de03]

OMG!1 sucka dissed my site. Welp. Gotta take it down now. No point in posting anymore since Holly doesnt like my 3-day old site. Gosh golly gee, whatever was I expecting.

Uhm. . .yea.

Now youre attempting to recycle tired ass jokes from OTHER lame-tired-people. Jesus.

If anyone wants to go that forum - hey there are MORE than welcome to. I sure as hell wouldnt. And I own the place. GG n00b.

Bazooka_Joe 08-22-2003 10:55 AM

Like I said before, people feel it's a freedom to not have mods, or to be mods themselves. So, they break all the rules they want.

Bazooka_Joe 08-22-2003 10:57 AM

Wow, even low spark posts again, WB d00d.

ED! 08-22-2003 10:59 AM

And yanno what - it's funny, some people cant see beyond this place. What exactly should we HELP people with Rude. I see that come alot from you. What exactly would you recommend we "vets" (constantly in quotes - gg) do to lend a helping hand. Who comes to OTBS in need of assistance? How many tech threads have there been that have been answered and quickly forgotten?

The problem here is that people cant see past the shit they smell in front of them, to realize the entire landscape doesnt appear the same way. If anyone HONESTLY thinks the loud-mouthed behavior of a few individuals can deter an entire forum - not just OT but an ENTIRE message board - then you all are giving us more credit in one area, that you dont want to seem to give in others.

The fact of the matter is, when this boards was "hijacked" (which is obvious to those who give a shit that it wasnt), the song remained the same, things went on as usual. Noone had an oppurtunity to truly do anything, but it's nice to harp and say "oh look how things went to shit".

And why the hell SHOULD anyone here lend a helping hand or even try to set an example - theres no support from the admins or mods to do so. Noone says - hey good job on curbing this, or getting rid of that person. All we see are locked threads because, golly, someone just didnt like the topic. Yea. Ok. Sorry if Twizzlers arent interesting to YOU.

But you know all this is runnig around in circles to the main obvious point - a few guys cannot, and HAVE NOT derailed this place. Thats bullshit. BULL FUCKING SHIT. This place started to become unmanageable when one thing happened - Badscript left. With BS gone, and admins with noone to answer to, things started to get out of control. Members signed up, posted once left; idiots came, got flamed, started more flames, create more imbalance. All of this could have been stopped if only one person still had the back of this site. And he didnt. Most of us here in OT dont even venture out into the other forums, and yet we're STILL supposed to be the reason this SITE is the way it is. I dont buy it. Noone buys it. The only ones buying it are the folks who dont want to look at their OWN style of leadership, and think theyve found easy targets. Sorry charlie that may work on others easily baited into "fuck you bitches", and "eat me cock-purses" - but I kinda like to be more erudite than that.

Joe lied. And if he didn't outright lie, then he acted with impetus at the perceived actions of guys he already had beef with. His heart was not in the game, yet instead of stepping aside and allowing new admin to take his place, he simply goes on a sabbatical - yet remaining admin. Of course he has a job when he comes back - which is more than the Wook or the Spooge got.

Zoner I think had the same happen to him. You're pulled in two directions from two different sites with two different styles to them. Not suprisingly he chose the style he has more "loyalty" (?) to. And that's fine. But again, this rankled the natives and those who slugged it out in the gutters of OT before he became admin. You can call that a petty response if you want, but to just dismiss complaints against mods as "jealousy" or 'hatred' - gimme a break. That shows a weakness in leadership to do so.

Anyway rant mode off - this is long enough as it is, and folks more than likley wont even read through it all. Just realize there is always more than one side to a story.

Bazooka_Joe 08-22-2003 11:06 AM

[quote="ED!":637d0]And yanno what - it's funny, some people cant see beyond this place. What exactly should we HELP people with Rude. I see that come alot from you. What exactly would you recommend we "vets" (constantly in quotes - gg) do to lend a helping hand. Who comes to OTBS in need of assistance? How many tech threads have there been that have been answered and quickly forgotten?

The problem here is that people cant see past the shit they smell in front of them, to realize the entire landscape doesnt appear the same way. If anyone HONESTLY thinks the loud-mouthed behavior of a few individuals can deter an entire forum - not just OT but an ENTIRE message board - then you all are giving us more credit in one area, that you dont want to seem to give in others.

The fact of the matter is, when this boards was "hijacked" (which is obvious to those who give a shit that it wasnt), the song remained the same, things went on as usual. Noone had an oppurtunity to truly do anything, but it's nice to harp and say "oh look how things went to shit".

And why the hell SHOULD anyone here lend a helping hand or even try to set an example - theres no support from the admins or mods to do so. Noone says - hey good job on curbing this, or getting rid of that person. All we see are locked threads because, golly, someone just didnt like the topic. Yea. Ok. Sorry if Twizzlers arent interesting to YOU.

But you know all this is runnig around in circles to the main obvious point - a few guys cannot, and HAVE NOT derailed this place. Thats bullshit. BULL FUCKING SHIT. This place started to become unmanageable when one thing happened - Badscript left. With BS gone, and admins with noone to answer to, things started to get out of control. Members signed up, posted once left; idiots came, got flamed, started more flames, create more imbalance. All of this could have been stopped if only one person still had the back of this site. And he didnt. Most of us here in OT dont even venture out into the other forums, and yet we're STILL supposed to be the reason this SITE is the way it is. I dont buy it. Noone buys it. The only ones buying it are the folks who dont want to look at their OWN style of leadership, and think theyve found easy targets. Sorry charlie that may work on others easily baited into "fuck you bitches", and "eat me cock-purses" - but I kinda like to be more erudite than that.

Joe lied. And if he didn't outright lie, then he acted with impetus at the perceived actions of guys he already had beef with. His heart was not in the game, yet instead of stepping aside and allowing new admin to take his place, he simply goes on a sabbatical - yet remaining admin. Of course he has a job when he comes back - which is more than the Wook or the Spooge got.

Zoner I think had the same happen to him. You're pulled in two directions from two different sites with two different styles to them. Not suprisingly he chose the style he has more "loyalty" (?) to. And that's fine. But again, this rankled the natives and those who slugged it out in the gutters of OT before he became admin. You can call that a petty response if you want, but to just dismiss complaints against mods as "jealousy" or 'hatred' - gimme a break. That shows a weakness in leadership to do so.

Anyway rant mode off - this is long enough as it is, and folks more than likley wont even read through it all. Just realize there is always more than one side to a story.[/quote:637d0]

Prove that I lied, and that I did it for personal reasons. Just because you think that I banned them because I don't like them, dosen't mean I did. Ed, let's get off the subject already, we're not getting anywhere fast.

Still, helping people with MOH problems should be the main concern with this forum, even if it is "JoeN00b" asking why he can't play MOH because he gets a "Cannot start openGL subsystem". My intents up until about two months ago, was to post answers to as many MOH players as I can. Over time, I got irritated by people on this site, and it irked me just not to help anymore. Well, maybe we can try to calm things down here some, and we can bring back a community of gamers, and not a community of complainers.

Gerv5500 08-22-2003 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
My stance:

I think Gerard admining anti just to use anti as a puppet to take the blame for his idea was a severe violation of trust.

#1. I didn't admin kyle.

#2. Wasn't my idea in the first place.

ED! 08-22-2003 11:08 AM

I dont have to prove anything. I didn't get banned, or when I did I didn't give a shit.

However - your version of events speaks for itself.

'nuff said.

ED! 08-22-2003 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerv5500
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis
My stance:

I think Gerard admining anti just to use anti as a puppet to take the blame for his idea was a severe violation of trust.

#1. I didn't admin kyle.

#2. Wasn't my idea in the first place.

Damn. Well it woulda been cool if thats how it went down. oOo:

wintersforge 08-22-2003 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
I understand Ydiss. You are one of the few guys I still respect a lot. If we all work together to we can bring this place back from the dark side.


off topic.

Wouldn't it be funny if this was a experiment or project BS has been putting together over the last 2 years. To study the how people act and react on the Internet.

All we know this could be his final theses for his Masters degree in physiology.

this has been my theory all along happy:

Higher Power 08-22-2003 11:14 AM

same here actually, but slightly different. I thought BadScript was probably one of the noobs around here and was just sitting back and observing.

Innoxx 08-22-2003 11:15 AM

I'm gonna have to agree with Rude. I think that BS is smurfing us. Shit, if I paid money to open up a website I'd babysit my investment like crazy. He's probably laughing his ass off over our "fussing." Either way, who honestly wants to mod this site anymore? Even I, one of the most tolerable people out there wouldn't want the job. I don't think I need to tell you people how much a shithouse this place is, since you probably already know. This place is defunct. No hope of "saving" it unless BS tells us all the what-for and how-why.

That's why http://www.six-online.com is blossoming more than ever. The webmaster knows how to run a website, in fact he's paid of three more vB themes and we're currently looking for someone to help us design a main index. That whole "revolution" thing also attracted a lot more clientele. All the people who couldn't put up with the bullshit of this site are at 6ol.

ED! 08-22-2003 11:16 AM

Well appearantly Joe from New York and BS from Hong Kong are super-duper good buddies, chit-chat all the time, and Joe rang ol BS up about the state of the site. So no.

I'm not giving anyone here that amount of credit.

Hollywood 08-22-2003 11:18 AM

Funny ED, I'm constantly telling it like it is and that is the reason people like you feel offended. They can't believe that after living a life where everyone is inferior to them that someone comes along and challenges their ideas and responds to their accusations. Whenever you see a post that goes against your ideas in ANY way you immediately jump down their throat.

Stop pointing the finger at everyone else and turn it around, because the reality is you are one of the major reasons this board transformed from a MOHAA forum to an Offtopic BS forum.

Oh and I wasn't poking fun at your damn pathetic web-site (nice main page BTW), I like it a lot.

Hollywood 08-22-2003 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersforge
Quote:

Originally Posted by rudedog
I understand Ydiss. You are one of the few guys I still respect a lot. If we all work together to we can bring this place back from the dark side.


off topic.

Wouldn't it be funny if this was a experiment or project BS has been putting together over the last 2 years. To study the how people act and react on the Internet.

All we know this could be his final theses for his Masters degree in physiology.

this has been my theory all along happy:

Same here, and my theory is that it's Old Reliable happy:

ED! 08-22-2003 11:20 AM

[quote:fb27a]Stop pointing the finger at everyone else and turn it around, because the reality is you are one of the major reasons this board transformed from a MOHAA forum to an Offtopic BS forum.[/quote:fb27a]

Please pray tell how I've managed to affect boards i dont even frequent. Power of internet-persuasion?


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