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ToeNail 09-13-2003 07:51 AM

Why do people loathe George W Bush?
 
I am definately am not into politics and never will. I'd care less if we nuke Iraq for revenge. But I would like to know what the big reason for hating bush is. When I ask people, "Do you hate George Bush". I answer, why? They freeze and don't answer or they make up an unlogical reply. I think people some poeple hate bush just because a majority of other people say they hate bush. I personally do not favor him or hate him. Like I said I am not into politics.

Blitz-krieg 09-13-2003 08:35 AM

Lol, only peace activists and anti-war ppl hate George Bush

Ydiss 09-13-2003 08:49 AM

[quote="Blitz-krieg":a9819]Lol, only peace activists and anti-war ppl hate George Bush[/quote:a9819] You couldn't be further from the truth. It's not always that people hate him, either. Most ridicule him instead.

Why?

Not my place to say.

09-13-2003 09:20 AM

I don't hate him, I just don't trust him.

Why, because I like freedom and I don't appreciate the Feds being able to see what books I read or listen in on a phone conversation without a warrant.

I also think he (or people working for him, who's ideas he just approved) has a lot of silly ideas, an already overly discussed "No Child Left Behind Act" which sounds like a good idea IN THEORY, but in reality it's a prime example of Federal inefficiency. (remember communism was supposed to work IN THEORY also, but IN REALITY IT FAILED, MISERABLY)

I really don't like the fact that he's all buddy-buddy with the Saudis when there's a strong suspicion that they fund terrorism.

Low spark 09-13-2003 11:42 AM

Envroinment.
Economy.
Education.
Foreign Relations.
Lack of vision for the future.

Paintballr 09-13-2003 10:04 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":bdda0]I don't hate him, I just don't trust him.

Why, because I like freedom and I don't appreciate the Feds being able to see what books I read or listen in on a phone conversation without a warrant.

I also think he (or people working for him, who's ideas he just approved) has a lot of silly ideas, an already overly discussed "No Child Left Behind Act" which sounds like a good idea IN THEORY, but in reality it's a prime example of Federal inefficiency. (remember communism was supposed to work IN THEORY also, but IN REALITY IT FAILED, MISERABLY)

I really don't like the fact that he's all buddy-buddy with the Saudis when there's a strong suspicion that they fund terrorism.[/quote:bdda0]

No child left behind i dont know but if that was that School thing they had it aint workin i got to a highschool that hasnt had anything been rebuilt for 51 years, we use books from 1992, and the school is under supplied we have like hardly anything teachers last year ran out of paper in 2 months. But i may be wrong with that child thing but i know he passed some thing with School involving with him.

Short Hand 09-13-2003 10:13 PM

i like his cut MY Taxes policy but i have a lil bit of a problem with his declare war on whoever gets in my way policy. ahh what the hell ill vote for ya bush.

09-13-2003 10:25 PM

[quote=Paintballr]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":8b0a7
I don't hate him, I just don't trust him.

Why, because I like freedom and I don't appreciate the Feds being able to see what books I read or listen in on a phone conversation without a warrant.

I also think he (or people working for him, who's ideas he just approved) has a lot of silly ideas, an already overly discussed "No Child Left Behind Act" which sounds like a good idea IN THEORY, but in reality it's a prime example of Federal inefficiency. (remember communism was supposed to work IN THEORY also, but IN REALITY IT FAILED, MISERABLY)

I really don't like the fact that he's all buddy-buddy with the Saudis when there's a strong suspicion that they fund terrorism.

No child left behind i dont know but if that was that School thing they had it aint workin i got to a highschool that hasnt had anything been rebuilt for 51 years, we use books from 1992, and the school is under supplied we have like hardly anything teachers last year ran out of paper in 2 months. But i may be wrong with that child thing but i know he passed some thing with School involving with him.[/quote:8b0a7]

this act does nothing to save bad schools, if anything it takes funding AWAY from schools that "fail" for a few years in a row. This means that schools that were already fucked up will only get worse, not better.

redhawk_six 09-14-2003 12:49 AM

[quote="Low spark":371cc]Envroinment.
Economy.
Education.
Foreign Relations.
Lack of vision for the future.[/quote:371cc]

ditto

Does he even have the smallest idea what the beef ban and softwood lumber tarif is doing to our economy? Farmers are lossing millions of dollars each day, and entire logging towns have turned into barren goast towns, leaving thousands of former loggers unemployed, unable to find work, and struggling just to feed their families. Very neighborly of you Bush. hake:

Eight Ace 09-14-2003 02:42 AM

...oh for fucks sake, you're a democracy...elections soon, if you're right...a man so "evil" as Bush
will surely be ejected and someone really nice will be elected and all the bad feelings will disappear.

...hey, why not vote for the Taliban if you really want to experiment.

SoLiDUS 09-14-2003 02:59 AM

Forget the entire thing and abolish government. Society could function just
as well, if not better without a coercive system impeding on our liberties. All
we need is a society founded on a rational ethical principle: the non
aggression principle. What we would need then would be guidelines
for the application of that principle in our everyday lives and an institutional
means of deciding when the principle had been violated. That is all...

Insightful link for would be principled anarchists:

[url:99e2d]http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/7695/CHAPTR08.HTM[/url:99e2d]

09-14-2003 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Forget the entire thing and abolish government. Society could function just
as well, if not better without a coercive system impeding on our liberties. All
we need is a society founded on a rational ethical principle: the non
aggression principle. What we would need then would be guidelines
for the application of that principle in our everyday lives and an institutional
means of deciding when the principle had been violated. That is all...

Insightful link for would be principled anarchists:

[url:0ba86]http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/7695/CHAPTR08.HTM[/url:0ba86]

actually the original Federal government was much much smaller than it is today, basically they made sure states were nice to each other and made treaties with foreign nations, and that's about it.

Revere 09-14-2003 10:25 AM

Nuke the middle-east and our problems are solved. biggrin:

Low spark 09-14-2003 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revere
Nuke the middle-east and our problems are solved. biggrin:

Thanks of for you opinion Mr. Rumsfield.

Proteus 09-14-2003 01:58 PM

[quote="Low spark":4f87d]Envroinment.
Economy.
Education.
Foreign Relations.
Lack of vision for the future.[/quote:4f87d]

Matt228 09-14-2003 02:07 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":8f505][quote=Paintballr]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":8f505
I don't hate him, I just don't trust him.

Why, because I like freedom and I don't appreciate the Feds being able to see what books I read or listen in on a phone conversation without a warrant.

I also think he (or people working for him, who's ideas he just approved) has a lot of silly ideas, an already overly discussed "No Child Left Behind Act" which sounds like a good idea IN THEORY, but in reality it's a prime example of Federal inefficiency. (remember communism was supposed to work IN THEORY also, but IN REALITY IT FAILED, MISERABLY)

I really don't like the fact that he's all buddy-buddy with the Saudis when there's a strong suspicion that they fund terrorism.

No child left behind i dont know but if that was that School thing they had it aint workin i got to a highschool that hasnt had anything been rebuilt for 51 years, we use books from 1992, and the school is under supplied we have like hardly anything teachers last year ran out of paper in 2 months. But i may be wrong with that child thing but i know he passed some thing with School involving with him.[/quote:8f505]

this act does nothing to save bad schools, if anything it takes funding AWAY from schools that "fail" for a few years in a row. This means that schools that were already fucked up will only get worse, not better.[/quote:8f505]

the other thing it does is force schools to always raise standards for students on tests. this is fine in texas where nothing is expected of students but here in new york the standards are already too high and this resulted in the infamous math A Final that more than half of the state failed.That test fortunately was removed from the books, but it raises standards without giving more funding.

the other provision in the act was that schools must give a list of students with their info like address and phone no. to the local army recruiter or the school gets no funding. looks like bush may have been trying to keep recruit numbers up for his planned wars.

ToeNail 09-14-2003 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revere
Nuke the middle-east and our problems are solved. biggrin:

HaHa I'm with j00

redhawk_six 09-14-2003 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToeNail
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revere
Nuke the middle-east and our problems are solved. biggrin:

HaHa I'm with j00

Yeah, cos that's not at all racist [/sarcasm] hake:

Almost as bad as that "Real patriots just aim for the towel" poster thing that's been floating around the net. hake:

Not everyone from that region is a terrorist!!!

Tripper 09-14-2003 11:59 PM

What I don't understand is why the guy OVER-funds the military, and dramatically UNDER-funds the public school system.

Doesn't he have ANY vision for the future?

The U.S would be so much 'greater,' with an efficient education system, and a smaller government. The only good thing that has ever been accomplished under a big government was Roosevelt's 'New Deal.'

I just don't understand. hake:

redhawk_six 09-15-2003 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
What I don't understand is why the guy OVER-funds the military, and dramatically UNDER-funds the public school system.

Doesn't he have ANY vision for the future?

The U.S would be so much 'greater,' with an efficient education system, and a smaller government. The only good thing that has ever been accomplished under a big government was Roosevelt's 'New Deal.'

I just don't understand. hake:

Me neither, I mean, he's spending billons on what's already one of the largest military forces in the world, mean while the economy is weak, the education system is poor, and the national debt is going up by over 6 billon a day.

09-15-2003 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripper
What I don't understand is why the guy OVER-funds the military, and dramatically UNDER-funds the public school system.

Doesn't he have ANY vision for the future?

The U.S would be so much 'greater,' with an efficient education system, and a smaller government. The only good thing that has ever been accomplished under a big government was Roosevelt's 'New Deal.'

I just don't understand. hake:

maybe because the ordinary peons who can't afford to go to a private school don't deserve a good education?

of course if the GOP gave that as their official excuse they would get voted out in a heartbeat, they have to make some BS up about vouchers and the evils of the public school system.

unfortunately quite a few religious folks buy in hook line and sinker into the "evil" public schools and their communist teachers teaching evil heretical evolution oOo:

pest 09-15-2003 02:10 PM

[quote="redhawk_six":db803]

Does he even have the smallest idea what the beef ban and softwood lumber tarif is doing to our economy? Farmers are lossing millions of dollars each day, and entire logging towns have turned into barren goast towns, leaving thousands of former loggers unemployed, unable to find work, and struggling just to feed their families. Very neighborly of you Bush. hake:[/quote:db803]

Ummm....... those tariffs were only in response to canada not playing fair to begin with. Canada's government subsidies of the lumber industry in particular, were putting many american timber companies and employees out of business. Canada was selling timber at prices below cost and the government made up the difference. Not exactly fair trade or very neighborly of you canada. hake:

Anyway, I dont hate bush, but I dont trust him either. I certainly dont like the way he tries to bully anyone that has a different opinion, I dont think he has a single bit of diplomacy and future leaders will struggle for years to undo the damage he has done and I most especially dont like how he has taken something as tragic as 9/11 and used it almost solely to push forward his personal agenda. It also scares me with how enthusiastic he is about taking away personal rights and freedoms.

Recycled Spooge 09-15-2003 09:56 PM

Well you know, Bush is a puppet for Haliburton, and he lied about the weapons of mass destruction, and how the entire media/government, that includes Bush, try to connect the Taliban and the Al Queda with Hussein. That just makes me angry. Another thing that annoys me about Bush or the government is that he sent an army composed of mostly lower class citizens, or immigrants(Latinos trying to get citizenship through being in the military) to fight the war in Iraq. The WASP childern are safe in their homes.


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