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Big Jake 10-01-2003 01:09 PM

Illegal Aliens Getting Drivers Licenses?? WTF!!???
 
Ok, the main thing here in Cali is the Davis Recall. Most of the country, if not the world is getting a good laugh out of it including myself.
But what alot of peeps don't know is Davis is getting ready to sign all these dumb stupid state laws. Including one where we give Illegal Aliens the right to posess Drivers licenses. Ok..whats wrong with that picture?? They are here Illegally...but hey, lets make it legal for them to drive. That makes no sense whatsoever...Dumb Bastards aren't paying taxes, hell are even breaking the law even and they get that done for them.
If I were the Immigration Dpt. I would have agents at all License branches and as soon as someone comes in to get their license, arrest them on the spot and have them escorted out of the country. hellfire:

Your thoughts?

Pyro 10-01-2003 01:17 PM

fuck illegal immigrants.

ED! 10-01-2003 01:33 PM

The law is already in place. Its a last minute hail mary to get the support of minorities. Emergency Health Care is one thing, driving rights is NOT a neccesity.

pest 10-01-2003 02:29 PM

Re: Illegal Aliens Getting Drivers Licenses?? WTF!!???
 
[quote="Big Jake":95922]

Your thoughts?[/quote:95922]

California sucks?

Tripper 10-01-2003 02:44 PM

Re: Illegal Aliens Getting Drivers Licenses?? WTF!!???
 
[quote=pest]
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Originally Posted by "Big Jake":b77ce

Your thoughts?

California sucks?[/quote:b77ce]

Is there anything honorable to destroy in Los Angeles?

ED! 10-01-2003 02:57 PM

Eat it all you Cali Haters. Why is the world so jealous of us? You should be hating on New York. Were else but in california will the son of an ex-nazi, who used to have mad orgies, and was the Terminator can become our new Govenor. Come on!

But this is a terrible irresponsible law, and will go down in flames. Imagine if you get into a car accident with one. Theres no requirment for them to have insurance, hell I dont know if they CAN get insurance.

Proteus 10-01-2003 02:58 PM

I think there is only one solution to this problem of ours....


OPERATION: MEXICO

Tripper 10-01-2003 03:31 PM

[quote="ED!":7b1eb]Eat it all you Cali Haters. Why is the world so jealous of us? You should be hating on New York. Were else but in california will the son of an ex-nazi, who used to have mad orgies, and was the Terminator can become our new Govenor. Come on![/quote:7b1eb]

Don't forget - Marijuana Toker.

gtboys34 10-01-2003 05:39 PM

[quote="ED!":bda7e]Eat it all you Cali Haters. Why is the world so jealous of us? You should be hating on New York. Were else but in california will the son of an ex-nazi, who used to have mad orgies, and was the Terminator can become our new Govenor. Come on!

But this is a terrible irresponsible law, and will go down in flames. Imagine if you get into a car accident with one. Theres no requirment for them to have insurance, hell I dont know if they CAN get insurance.[/quote:bda7e] i thought u lived in afghanistan?? Cave..........#............... oh nvm cuss:

Tripper 10-01-2003 05:43 PM

[quote=gtboys34]
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Originally Posted by "ED!":02329
Eat it all you Cali Haters. Why is the world so jealous of us? You should be hating on New York. Were else but in california will the son of an ex-nazi, who used to have mad orgies, and was the Terminator can become our new Govenor. Come on!

But this is a terrible irresponsible law, and will go down in flames. Imagine if you get into a car accident with one. Theres no requirment for them to have insurance, hell I dont know if they CAN get insurance.

i thought u lived in afghanistan?? Cave..........#............... oh nvm cuss:[/quote:02329]

Please don't post anymore.

There are plenty of homoerotic forums on the interweb....Go FIND ONE! happy:

ED! 10-01-2003 06:38 PM

[quote:7345a]i thought u lived in afghanistan?? Cave..........#............... oh nvm[/quote:7345a]

Yes. nvm. Your shits tireder than your moms vagina. Give it up. Its as if you are wearing a "FLAME ME" sign. Stick your head in a bucket. And make me some pancakes. Cupcake.

Rannoch 10-01-2003 07:23 PM

I have one of these suckers in my wallet.

[img]http://vikingphoenix.com/photos/gallery1/graydavislicense.jpg[/img]

Snuff 10-01-2003 07:27 PM

Nice biggrin: I like the big"X" for the signature.

Judas 10-01-2003 08:13 PM

we should give them all guns ...

Webb 10-01-2003 09:52 PM

Hey california was Mexico once.Bite the bullet. rock:

WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

People only talk about aliens from 3rd World shit holes. annoy:

Don't forget General Colin Powell's father is from Jamaica. rock:

pest 10-01-2003 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Webb
WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

Maybe because 99% of the illegal aliens in Cali are from mexico??? You know, the country they share a border with....?

Webb 10-01-2003 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pest
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Originally Posted by Webb
WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

Maybe because 99% of the illegal aliens in Cali are from mexico??? You know, the country they share a border with....?

There's nothing you can do,nobody can't, too late.You will never will stop them from coming here.Puerto Ricans are just the same,but they are americans.
Move to South Dakota,very few "illegal aliens" there. the_finger:

Judas 10-01-2003 10:23 PM

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pest 10-01-2003 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/fabothamley/airsoft/guns-eg1.jpg[/img]

Sweet, I have shot the top 3 and the bottom left, but with the real daels, not teh airsoft.

Tripper 10-02-2003 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webb
WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

People only talk about aliens from 3rd World shit holes. annoy:

That might be because 99.9% of illegal immigrants/refugees, are FROM 3rd World nations...

Webb 10-02-2003 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webb
WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

People only talk about aliens from 3rd World shit holes. annoy:

That might be because 99.9% of illegal immigrants/refugees, are FROM 3rd World nations...

Also because they are white. ed:

Tripper 10-02-2003 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Webb
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webb
WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

People only talk about aliens from 3rd World shit holes. annoy:

That might be because 99.9% of illegal immigrants/refugees, are FROM 3rd World nations...

Also because they are white. ed:

......? eek:

Judas 10-02-2003 01:33 AM

jennifer lopez.

Snuff 10-04-2003 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Webb
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webb
WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

People only talk about aliens from 3rd World shit holes. annoy:

That might be because 99.9% of illegal immigrants/refugees, are FROM 3rd World nations...

Also because they are white. ed:

Doesn't matter where they come from. If they are illegal they are illegal.
It pisses me off that these people continually immigrate and are a drain
on the economy. They have nothing to contribute to benefit the system. My tax dollars go to pay for their "charity" healthcare and to educate their kids.
To give them a drivers license is ludicrous.

butch 10-04-2003 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogman74
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Originally Posted by Webb
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Quote:

Originally Posted by Webb
WTF nobody say nothing about illegal aliens from Ireland,Italy,Britsh,New Zealand,Australia,Germany,Portugal,South Africa.

People only talk about aliens from 3rd World shit holes. annoy:

That might be because 99.9% of illegal immigrants/refugees, are FROM 3rd World nations...

Also because they are white. ed:

Doesn't matter where they come from. If they are illegal they are illegal.
It pisses me off that these people continually immigrate and are a drain
on the economy. They have nothing to contribute to benefit the system. My tax dollars go to pay for their "charity" healthcare and to educate their kids.
To give them a drivers license is ludicrous.

you said brother!!! A Puerto Rican is just a mexican turned inside out.

Madmartagen 10-04-2003 07:59 PM

Whats wrong with letting noncitizens drive? they fuckin pay taxes over here anyway and they need to get to the jobs no one else wants. if they dont have a car, then youll just bitch about 'all the mexicans are taking over the buses.' it isnt a national crisis to let in people who are looking for work. and like someone said earlier, this was mexico until the US stole it from them.

Rannoch 10-04-2003 08:04 PM

It was Mexico a long freaking time ago. Maybe they should try and take it back. If they can, I say let em have it.

They dont have nukes, do they?

And I live in California.

There are a damn lot of Mexicans here. They pick pears. They pick grapes. They pick (what remains of the orchards) walnuts.

And thats basically it. Whats my point? Damn, this is the second post I forgot half way through what my point was.

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Aha! My point! We HAVE to have these smilies:

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Vance 10-04-2003 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmartagen
and like someone said earlier, this was mexico until the US stole it from them.

WTF

Tripper 10-04-2003 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by butch
A Puerto Rican is just a mexican turned inside out.

annoy:

Chango 10-04-2003 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vance
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Originally Posted by Madmartagen
and like someone said earlier, this was mexico until the US stole it from them.

WTF

He's referring to the Mexican-American War (or he's just babbling like an idiot) But we call that Manifest Destiny, not stealing

Arkan 10-04-2003 10:28 PM

From some of the replies it seems some people here are completely retarded. "Illegal Aliens" means any person (...including white people) who resides in the Country illegally. They're not paying taxes like the rest of the working class people and they're not putting money back into the economy. They take all the money they make here and send it back home to their mud-hut in the hopes of upgrading to something with a solid foundation in which to build on. They save money by eating one meal a day and by renting a house with 50 more illegals just like them.
When my ancestors came here from Italy and Austria, they did so LEGALLY. They actually learned the language, adopted the American culture, and paid their dues to this land.......so i don't want to hear anyones liberal views on the matter. If you want to live in this country, learn the language and pay your dues like everyone else. Is that asking much??

Snuff 10-04-2003 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmartagen
Whats wrong with letting noncitizens drive? they fuckin pay taxes over here anyway and they need to get to the jobs no one else wants. if they dont have a car, then youll just bitch about 'all the mexicans are taking over the buses.' it isnt a national crisis to let in people who are looking for work. and like someone said earlier, this was mexico until the US stole it from them.

Driving is a priviledgenot a right. Who's money funds the revenue dept., hwy dept. ect. Tax payer money that's who.These people do not pay taxes. They don't help to fund law enforcement. You can damn well bet that very few of them would stay currnt with insurance: at best you could hope they carry liability. I bet you would be real happy to get rear ended by a nice non-english speaking, uninsured illegal alien. Then you could start bitching about how your auto insurance premium has suddenly gone up. As I eluded to earlier..... they are also a major strain on an already strained healthcare system in this country. Just having them here in the first place is a drain on the economy not to mention giving them drivers licenses.

Madmartagen 10-05-2003 04:15 AM

how stupid, ive been hit by 3 white asses who were too stupid to have insurance, and one of them thought it would be a good idea to try and get away. whats with this manifest destiny BS i hear about? oh, ok god said we can have all of this land because no one else is using it right? sounds like you are babbling yourself. and as for taxes, everyone who works in this country pays taxes, immigrants arent the only ones who dont pay. i can imagine all the immigrants in white collar jail for tax evasion, cant you??????. as for your ILLEGAL ALIENS, they provide over 80% of your crops in this state and around 60% of construction. they also repair and clean up the roads that you drive on because no one else wants these jobs. let see you bitch and complain about not being able to find a house or a place to work or some food to eat. as for the economy, immigrants provide more for the economy than you give them credit for. you can blame the sagging economy on the retard in the white house and in the governors mansion. the last president left us with a $127B surplus and gave us the best economic boom since WW2, you can blame W for your economic woes. yes driving is a priviledge, what kind of stupid answer is that, im not disputing that, and it is totally irrelevant in this matter. the only difference between a citizen and non citizen in this country is that you cant vote. how are they not priveledged enough to be able to drive to work? a car is a necessity in this world. if a 16 year old kid who doesnt pay taxes, doesnt work and cant vote can drive, why cant immigrants?

Tripper 10-05-2003 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
if a 16 year old kid who doesnt pay taxes, doesnt work and cant vote can drive, why cant immigrants?

It's different - It's only a matter of years before this 16 year old kid is going to have to grow up, vote, get a job and pay taxes....What happens to the immigrant that gets a job and doesn't pay taxes.....? Nothing. That's the problem.

Chango 10-05-2003 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Madmartagen
whats with this manifest destiny BS i hear about? oh, ok god said we can have all of this land because no one else is using it right? sounds like you are babbling yourself.

Look it up in a fucking book, its not like I made it up.

It doesn't matter that they provide 80% of California's crops, or that they do the jobs that no one wants to do (you are aware that some people in America can't do the job they want to do, so they are forced to do jobs like that right?) Its the fact that we have no fucking clue who they are, they could be a criminal from another country, or they could be a terrorist for all we know. Obviously they have something to hide if they aren't willing to go through the official processes.

ED! 10-05-2003 03:39 PM

Uh - only county or state workers are allowed to clean up the roads and highways. A little something called The Department Of General Services. ANd I sincerely DOUBT county or state agencies are hiring illegal immigrants.

Having said that - IRREGARDLESS of what the LEGAL American Citizens do, illegal is illegal. Thats it. End of story. You wanna know WHY the shit jobs are so low in pay - because smart farmers KNOW illegal immigrants are going to jump at this chance. It's not a matter of illegal immigrnat COMING to these jobs, its a matter of the employers manufacturing these low payings jobs FOR the illegal immigrnats. If they were forced out, then out of work construction workers and out of work farm hands would be able to take these jobs and the employers would be FORCED legally to provide a fair wage instead of the shit conditions THEY create for the immigrants.

So no more with the violin because I'm not buying it.

ShagNasty 10-05-2003 07:30 PM

I agree with ED here. When you fuck up in my state, You get community service some times, and they clean the roads.

pest 10-06-2003 07:31 AM

[quote="ED!":0406e]
IRREGARDLESS of what the LEGAL American Citizens do, illegal is illegal. Thats it. End of story. [/quote:0406e]

Bottom line right there. Thats where any discussion on this matter should have ended. Giving illegals rights, no priveledges, is just plain californian.

Snuff 10-06-2003 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
how stupid, ive been hit by 3 white asses who were too stupid to have insurance, and one of them thought it would be a good idea to try and get away. whats with this manifest destiny BS i hear about? oh, ok god said we can have all of this land because no one else is using it right? sounds like you are babbling yourself. and as for taxes, everyone who works in this country pays taxes, immigrants arent the only ones who dont pay. i can imagine all the immigrants in white collar jail for tax evasion, cant you??????. as for your ILLEGAL ALIENS, they provide over 80% of your crops in this state and around 60% of construction. they also repair and clean up the roads that you drive on because no one else wants these jobs. let see you bitch and complain about not being able to find a house or a place to work or some food to eat. as for the economy, immigrants provide more for the economy than you give them credit for. you can blame the sagging economy on the retard in the white house and in the governors mansion. the last president left us with a $127B surplus and gave us the best economic boom since WW2, you can blame W for your economic woes. yes driving is a priviledge, what kind of stupid answer is that, im not disputing that, and it is totally irrelevant in this matter. the only difference between a citizen and non citizen in this country is that you cant vote. how are they not priveledged enough to be able to drive to work? a car is a necessity in this world. if a 16 year old kid who doesnt pay taxes, doesnt work and cant vote can drive, why cant immigrants?

First of all, I'm not talking about race asshat. So you can take your whiteasses comment and stick it up your ass. tHEY ARE FUCKING ILLEGAL!
IE. NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. Secondly, I don't live in your state. Thirdly, all that shit you posted about dragging the economy just proves my point. We don't need any illegal's to help us in that dept. We have enough shit of our own to worry about. Driving is a privilege has all the relevance in this matter. I'll repeat this again THET DON'T PAY ANY TAXES other than sales tax when thet buy something. They don't have a social security number. They don't pay to keep up highways, law enforcement, or to the dept. of revenue. I don't want to pay for their part but obviously you do. Why don,t you sponser some illegal aliens if you feel so srongly about it (pay their medical bills etc.). To be honest I don't give a shit what California decides to do with their own state but Cali's decisions always have a ripple effect throughout the entire country. Illegal aliens do dick for the economy in my state so your nice little statistics mean shit to me. This has nothing to do with the white house problems or whatever your saying. That's what's wrong with this country anyway. To many people not making a contribution. Illegal aliens just compound that problem. They can apply for a visa just like everyone else and be legal. What about all the terrorist suspects who were in the US illegally. Hell lets give those guys drivers licenses too. I had better end with saying this or you will make it a racial thing again. Doesn't matter what nationality. Illegal is illegal. They shouldn't get the same priviledges ( ie drivers lincense)as citizens.

Dr. Deleto 10-07-2003 03:17 AM

this really isnt too hard to understand. They take without putting back in. They take money from the economy, and pay nothing back to it. Oh sure they buy food, but 12 of them can survive for a week off one loaf of bread. Meanwhile they are shipping home 90% of the money they make instead of putting it back into the economy. So the whole economy argument is total shit.

And who is paying for the damage these uninsured drivers will do to other people's cars when they run into it because the 7th guy from the passenger side in that ford whatever they are driving accidently spilled his slushee? more economic downfall. I say let them have driving privelages only after they pay thier first year's income taxes.


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