Argh! come one guys, every weapon has a Plus and minus point.

Players using a Sniper Rifle are nothin on close combat.
Adjust youre play style instead of running around like a retarded Rambo shooting anything that moves.

Sneak up behind the sniper.
Use youre Grenade's for allitle smoke.
Never stand still.
Dont go out in the open, stay against walls and in the shadows.

Just think about it, would you in real life run down the middle of the street with a machine gun trying to put a few caps in some one's ass 400 meters away from you?

The recoil could use a small tweak i must admit, but the way it is now aint so bad as you guys are saying.

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Oh and madrebel.

Euro Trash?
Where did this Disrespect came from ?
The way i see it is you belong on the axis side.
Freakin Nazi, Yuck!

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rocket has its place though.

it allows the allies something to hold off a strong axis rush with. I used it last night in fact just for this.

My team was geting tooled like noones buisiness. I got fed up whipped out a rocket and turned the tables a bit.

Basically I have nothing against ONE sniper, or TWO, in a game if 8 vs 8.

But as it happens, EVERYONE wanna be the cool sniper wizz - is that the correct expression.

Speaking of DoD here...it sucks if I pack my Bar and start heavy supressive fire, just so no one would move ahead and use the chance.

A WW2 game should be about firefights, cover fire, run 'n cover...that type of gameplay. Not about 6 snipers each side taking it out.

If you want to see a halfway devent modeled sniper rifle...look at OFP. It models time to impact, gravitiy drop, and maybe even wind, although the last can't be said for sure.

If you take a look at the guys with the most kills, they are the guys with the shotties and the SMGs and the rifles. Snipers are good for those other snipers! In close combat, sniper rifles are NO good...and forget about it when you are outnumbered; a smart opposing team should be able to take out a sniper when the numbers are in their favor.

yeah!
But any way, there should be a way to limit the sniper rifel.

You all have a point in your reply.

But if you play 9 vs 9 and more then halfe the team on each side is sniper, then you can figure out by your self how the game would be, special on the Omaha beach map.
And thats happens Almost every time on several servers.
Would it not be good if the server could limt weapons on some maps?

A right balanced team makes it much more fun to play.

Can you limit the snipers in some way?
Or if I could, remove the damn chicken rifel.

In some maps no one wants to do the dirty job, they all just want to enjoy the party from distance.

I might be a very nice target, but hey, when they are 8 or more snipers, who´s gonna shoot me first, they can only shoot me once.

To many snipers makes it very boring.

" who wants a medal?
Lets charge!"
Poff poff poff poff poff.......Ouuhff!

The answer is simple!

FIND ANOTHER SERVER!!!

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Close isn't good enough unless you throw a grenade!

It's hard find find other good servers in Australia and servers should be able to limit certain weps like Rogue spear and DoD cos otherwise the Moaha map will be just gay.

But if Im gonna HOST a server then!?
Is the answer easy then?

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But if Im gonna HOST a server then!?
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/me tries to come up with a clever answer!


ummmm.......


OK I've got one!

DON'T HOST A SERVER! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif


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Close isn't good enough unless you throw a grenade!

lol

Yeah, happens to many good games.

Some people are just to greedy with their score and dont want to die, because they can't feel 7331 when it happens.

Same with the DoD Maps...until the Sniper limit came along.

The real fun is rushing out and ducking under the bullets...that's where the action is.

The sniper rifle is just too good and easy to use. It needs to sway, and not be so accurate or do less damage.

I think it's in Red Faction, when you have a Sniper rifle, it will sway a bit at first and will settle down after 1-3 seconds. Maybe they should have something like that.

RF is good http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif it's short thow..

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how good does this anti-cheat work for a MP server if I were to run it, it claims that players cant use the SP cheats, but I see people are using an invincible cheat, godmode, etc..etc..

Would be nice if they implemented range/wind adjustments on the sniper scope...that's how it REALLY was. That is what makes sniping a special skill.

Many people think they are cool ass snipers because they can aim a reticle at a head with 8x zoom. That ain't the basic sniper idea. If they would have to calculte for range, wind and lead you would hardly see anyone sniping.

range/wind adjustment?

hah if you think snipers in ww2 did all that during combat youre high. in ww2 there was no sniper schools per se. a "sniper" in ww2 was usually a country farm kid who back home could shoot the balls off a prairie dog at 500 yards with pappy's 30/30.

there were no sophisticated scopes back then either. very simple range andjustments was about it.


as to the original poster if you dont like snipers RUSH THEM!!!!! Preferably with the shotgun. I cant count the number of timees ive seen some idiot learn around a corner and try to 'out snipe' a sniper with a SMG/MG. news flash he has a scope and can see you alot beter than you can see him.

a snipers weakness is at close range.

Lol madrebel, we can see you know jack about ballistics and sniping.

Given ideal conditions (zero wind) a sniper still has to calculate for drop, fancy scope or no fancy scope. Add windage into the calculation (the trees do move in the wind in MoH don't they) and the shooter needs real skill, even more so if he's using a crude scope.

MoH models none of that. Using the sniper rifle in MoH you might as well be firing a lethal laser beam. It's a sham of a weapon and should either be patched so it's real or totally removed from the code. Do it properly or don't bloody bother.

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you dont need to calculate for drop at the ranges you see in MOH. There is nothing in any of the MOH maps that would indicate distances of more than 150 yards at most, oh wait youre euro trash, so thats a little less than 150 meters for you.

a 7.62 round doesnt drop enough in that distance to matter. It would take some pretty serious wind to make a difference as well at these close ranges.

Like i already said, snipers in ww2 werent the 1000 meter+ deadly killers that they are these days with extremely high tech scopes.

they were farm boys who grew up with a rifle bascially.

I dont undestand why so many people want every aspect of real life to be modeled in MOH. Go play rainbow six or something. Let those of us that enjoy the FUN gameplay of MOH enjoy it. Go cry about your realism somewhre else.

Youre just mad cause you suck ass and dont know how to flank a sniper.

A sniper sits quitly, waiting for the perfect shot. After the kill, he displaces, to find another spot. Conceal and move. If you dont like sniping, then try and take me out. Although, can you get close enough?

Why do you people whine? Is it because you walk in the middle of a field or street only to find you brains scattered behind you?
Usually, you can watch your team mate drop infront of you so you know there is a sniper. SO....take cover. Look for smoke, movement, muzzle flash...better yet, wait for a teammate who is dumber than you to walk out and wait for him to get shot down. The shot will give away the sniper's position....but if the sniper is good then he will find another spot before you can get there and you will be next...

shit, i'm gonna go snipe now.....

I have nothin against snipers at all. give's me a rush sneakin up on the bastards. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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how good does this anti-cheat work for a MP server if I were to run it, it claims that players cant use the SP cheats, but I see people are using an invincible cheat, godmode, etc..etc..

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There is a patch at www.mohmatch.com that says it is for the demo, but it works with retail. There is a new gamex86.dll that fixes the cheating issue. Just rename the original gamex86.dll to .old and put the new on in the Main directory and restart the server.