This game is flat out bad. The Single Player was going great until "You are alone, infiltrate this, then exfiltrate". Last time I checked, 2015, Rambo was NOT in World War 2. Omaha was the lone bright spot, but that was short lived. I give Single Player a C just for Omaha.

Multi-Player...worst MP I have ever seen. Netcode is horrific, maps are nice, but netcode ruins the multi player experience. There is NO teamwork, just DM.

Omaha is probably the biggest let down in years. The map is ruined by allowing snipers on Omaha. There is no point to defend the beach, just defend the guns, which is not the experience you want. All the maps seem good, but yet again, netcode and DM ruin it.
Grade: F

Graphics: Nice, but there is better. The GI's look like they don't have eyes. B+

Models: Most of the gun models look good, but they are too small. DoD portrays them better. Grade is a B.

Sound: They nailed the Kar 98k head on, everything else from then on went down the shitter. Explosions are very well done. MG42 is horribly done though. C is the grade.

Overall: Major disappointment. I expected a small amount of realims, not Serious Sam in WW2. Not that Sam is bad, I just expect hoardes of enemies from Sam, and I get them.

2015 dropped the ball, and in a BIG way.

Overall: D, not even worth a warez download.

The lag was the same when the demo was released. Just wait until the dedicated servers come up.

I'm sure all the professional reviewers gave it a simaller score...Oh wait they all gave it A's http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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Oh yes, professionals in every aspect of life are better then the no one's out there. What a joke. Professional Reviewers just want Arcade Gameplay that is fun. They got it. Are they happy? Yes! Does the game depict WW2 at all?


NO!

so please stop posting here. take your marbles and go home because noone here agrees with you.

dont like the game? fine dont play it.

I'd hardly say it doesn't depict WWII at all, and how would you know what the reviewers judge when grading a game. They've seen hundreds and they can recognize a gem when they see one.

I realize that it is not even remotley close to a 100% realistic game but think of they gameplay issues if it was. It would be damn near unplayable if you were seriously wounded or killed by one shot (at least with some of the missions they give ie: Omaha) How would you like to reload the map 100's of times after you've been raked with machinegun fire as the ramp drops?

I agree with you about snipers on Omaha, and think that a patch should be added with class limits, but if it frustrates you that much move on to a different map.

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most people buy the game if they are going to have fun....

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BLAH!!!...

I dont care about reviews....
WHEN I GET IT ILL PLAY IT AND GIVE IT AN A!!!

overall - i tend to AGREE w/ Cerberus,

CS still beats this game for the BEST mp experience - but remember Cerberus - this is just the START for mohaa - u will recall the way HL/CS looked when it first came out - what? 3 YEARS ago now??

mohaa mp will be very popular and grow - there WILL be mods and it will improve.

i stand with Cerberus - with a few exceptions;

the SOUNDS are simply the BEST i have ever heard - weapons & ordinance A+ - eveything sounds fantastic - the voice work is perfect.

AI = B- DAMN hard - very good;

models = D+ they suck. the player models and weapons need SERIOUS help;

maps = C+ very authentic scenes - very realistic looking - good architecture - but high r_speeds in some maps (those with tress notably) cause LOTS of system burden and bring even a powerful sys to a slow down;

STILL - this game grabbed me wouldn't let go until the very end - I LOVE IT!

Cerberus-WG,
I give your review a grade of F.
Dumbass. You suck, if you dont like this game, you have bad taste.

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they hafta add a lil rambo into it or else right from the first mission you would be killed every two seconds cuz it would take one bullet. that would really suck.

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Wtf is up with all you assholes, it is just his opinion, get a life before flaming him like that, what happened to somones godhonest opinion? Its not even remotley offending in anyway, let him say what he wants, god damn you guys are assholes. Leave him alone its his view of the game.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by W. Voss:
Wtf is up with all you assholes, it is just his opinion, get a life before flaming him like that, what happened to somones godhonest opinion? Its not even remotley offending in anyway, let him say what he wants, god damn you guys are assholes. Leave him alone its his view of the game.

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Surely you don't mean little old me voss?

I never flamed him and I made intelligent commentary on his posts, mostly I'm sick of everyone posting his or her own review of the game when most major publications have given it high marks, but I'm just a dumb minnesota kid who needs smarter people then me to review stuff like this. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif (no slight against you cerberus, I've just been seeing a lot of these lately)

And I also disagree with his sound grade, my copy hasn't arrived yet but with my experiences with both the sp and mp demos I'd say the sound was great!


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it's funny how you give this game a bad review, seeing as how the MP DEMO, keyword DEMO had twice the amount of people playing then RTCW. And what, 2 days after release there are already 600 retail players going at it. With this kind of response, it doesnt matter how shitty you review it, people still like it. It's all bout the gamers.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MichaelG2K:
it's funny how you give this game a bad review, seeing as how the MP DEMO, keyword DEMO had twice the amount of people playing then RTCW. And what, 2 days after release there are already 600 retail players going at it. With this kind of response, it doesnt matter how shitty you review it, people still like it. It's all bout the gamers.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


nah, RTCW has always had more players online than the demo of MOH:AA. RTCW has around 4500+ players all time while MOH:AA demo has around 1500+. check www.gamespy.com/stats
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MichaelG2K:
it's funny how you give this game a bad review, seeing as how the MP DEMO, keyword DEMO had twice the amount of people playing then RTCW. And what, 2 days after release there are already 600 retail players going at it. With this kind of response, it doesnt matter how shitty you review it, people still like it. It's all bout the gamers.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah your overlooking the fact that RTCW has an ingame server list too



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rtcw is a fantasy cartoon, a laughable depiction of ww2, mohaa has the balls that i thought rtcw was gonna have. you cant find better firefights in any game but mohaa, im sorry.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by poseyj:
rtcw is a fantasy cartoon, a laughable depiction of ww2, mohaa has the balls that i thought rtcw was gonna have. you cant find better firefights in any game but mohaa, im sorry. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah but it's a fun fantasy cartoon.

You know people it is ok to like more games then mohaa, I've kept tabs on this game since long before I started posting here, but I still went out and bought RTCW, even though it's not realistic it is still fun to play.



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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerberus-WG:


Overall: D, not even worth a warez download.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are entitled to your opinion but what's with that final line on your "review"?

i was a bit dissapointed, but YOU KNOW, there was a demo...and so far it's pretty much JUST like the demo!

so who's fault is it (not that you paid for it)?

That's funny, I've been playing every FPS since Wolf3d, and I think Half-Life was cartoonishly cheesy at best. I never really liked any mod for half-life compared to the UT stuff. I don't know why so many people are ga-ga over HL when UT beats it in just about every catagory. It's realism mods like Tac. Ops and Inf blow CS straight out of the water. UT has well over 5000 user created maps, and some are truely amazing works of art. The only thing that HL has that UT doesnt is a cheesy repititive SP storyline. I could live with out that anyday. Nevermind UT for a sec, and the best realism game by far is Operation Flashpoint. Don't even for minute try and sell CS as the "most real" game. That is just wrong, no, even worse...hogwash!

Just from the developers point of view, we never stated that we were going to be the most realistic war simulation on the planet. We said we are basing the game more on realism, just like the PSX versions of MoH. Other people heard the word realism and made the assumption that it was going to be this total war sim with massive troop commanding and such. That was never hyped or promised.

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-regarding level designers

dedicated servers?

WHAT DEDICATED SERVERS?! You have to have the f*cking CD in the drive to run one.. Its a joke.. This company is morons..

Lets see.. broken rcon and cd required to run a server.. It seems to me that 2015 wants ONLY listen servers..

P A T H E T I C

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dedicated servers?

WHAT DEDICATED SERVERS?! You have to have the f*cking CD in the drive to run one.. Its a joke.. This company is morons..

Lets see.. broken rcon and cd required to run a server.. It seems to me that 2015 wants ONLY listen servers..

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i have the nocd crack and the dedicated server still doesnt work.

im not sure wtf is going on maybe gamespy has some deal worked out with them?

all i know is without good quality dedicated servers this game is going nowhere in regards to online play.

Well this fucker was talking his shlt on the dod forums last night. Only made about 3 threads on the subject with the same gibberish and retarded review every time.

Dont like it then dont buy it. The demos were enough to give you an idea of what the game was gonna be like so fuck off with your "this isn;t realistic" bullshit. I told this tard the same thing last night and he still brings it up here.

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Yes, i work for AA.net and already there are mods pouring in. Covaks Realism Mod, Ceskins' Co-Op MOD [which makes the game sooo much more fun]. Already there are great mods popping out, so just give the game time and it will grow on you.

ALL I know is that the game is FUN!
That's spelled F - U - N ...FUN


And come on people, that's what gaming is all about. People have to realize that this game was not made to be a SIM. It's a video game that is SO MUCH FUN. We can't stop playing.

PS -They will have dedicated servers. HELLO? Be Patient

Just because people play something doesn't make it good. CS is popular because people can go to the store and buy it. A good amount of those same people wouldn't go out trolling for other mods to compare it to. You can tell this by CS players acting like CS was the first mod ever. I want to enjoy this game but I fear this will turn into a CS crowd (kind of already has) and be filled with a lot of idiots and cheaters.

There's a bunch of mods out there guys and not just for HL.

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no this is far from CS, people here dont have enough skill to be good enough to even be mentioned in the same breath.

the average skill level on good CS(non cheat) servers is very high. something i have yet to see on average for MoH.

Wait, you know what. I agree in some ways. But i only agree with the Multi player part. I dont care if the Single Player is rambo, its dissapointing but still a really good fun game. Im not a HUGE ww2 buff who complains the second im alone and calls it rambo http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

I do agree with however the MP expericance. Wheres the TDM? Its only DM from the little AFK's. Plus, letting snipers on Omaha was the biggest mistake in gaming history and totally ruins the map. Someone release a mutator or something that doesnt allow snipers on Omaha.

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guys have you noticied it might be kond of hard for non-coder modders to do what your asking for? takeing the sniper rifle off the map? I dunno but never heard of that loll. maybe makeing classes would be easier and editing the code of the map to block the sniper. cool whatever.

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If you want some type of mod tell me and be sepcific.

Originally posted by cybertoolzz:

CS still beats this game for the BEST mp experience - but remember Cerberus - this is just the START for mohaa - u will recall the way HL/CS looked when it first came out - what? 3 YEARS ago now??

CS sucks, first of all. The people who still play it are little 13 and 14 year old preteen faggots who have no maturity and no desire to play as a team. And furthermore, CS's weapons and code have been so dumbed down for newbies and potential buyers (Goose sold out, remember?) that it almost makes you worse to have any kind of skill. You don't know what I mean unless you have played since very early (CS is not three years old btw, two and a half. June 1999 I believe. You talk like CS has always been Halflife's flagship mod).

AI = B- DAMN hard - very good;
The AI is abismal. They run straight at you shooting. Thats not good AI. Good AI would flank you, take cover, throw yourgrenades back at you. If you mean the AI is hard in that the enemy soldiers are good shots, that has absolutely nothing to do with realistic AI.

models = D+ they suck. the player models and weapons need SERIOUS help;

Holy shit. You are stupid. From the viewpoint of being a good skinner, I can tell you that the models and textures in this game are excelent, at least. The weapons are great and the player models are astonishing. Why dont you go match the graphics up with a photo and stop comparing it to Counter-Strike's shitty textures.

maps = C+ very authentic scenes - very realistic looking - good architecture - but high r_speeds in some maps (those with tress notably) cause LOTS of system burden and bring even a powerful sys to a slow down;

Thats your computer. Not everybody elses. I know for me it runs fine. Maybe most other people have better computers and get better performance. Ever think about that?

/rant

realistic ? NO , authentic ? YES ... thats the difference and thats what mohaa is authentic.

I think 2015 has gone out of the way a bit to make the game playable rather than anally realistic.

As for the net-code hell it aint the best but if you got a good conn and your hooked up to a dedi server its fine.

Sure theyre some bugs in the AI, but its not a disaster... aside from the fact that the AI tends to sit in a room till your 10 feet away firing and they all come piling out together, otherwise its competent to be honest.

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Of course the games not realistic. In world war 2, the average soldier was lucky to get 4 or 5 kills throughout the entire war, much less 95 kills in 1 hour. How exciting a game would that be? spend hours searching, followed by fire a couple of shots hide again, fire a couple of more, hide again, and pray that your couple of shots manages to hit somebody. The game has to have a certain level of arcade style shoot m up to make it fun to play.

And by the way, their were several german sniper regiments manning the beaches in Normandy, so that aspect, like it or not, is historically accurate at least.

And no I'm not flaming anybody, just pointing some things out.

I know nothing of MP yet. We have an RTCW server set up at work and play that at lunch and after work, maybe we'll set up a MOHAA to see how it flies

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by quiet:
When a full blown realism mod comes out for MOH:AA then we can compare it to CS, otherwise you'd have to compare MOH:AA to the non-modded version of some other game.

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fair enuff quiet,

compare mohaa to HL then - being as the two are both basically fps shooters - HL rocked the gaming world and everygame since HL, incl mohaa, has tried to emulate HL in many respects. but the field of fps shooters got very crowded after HL - SOF, RTCW, OPFOR, VENOM (outbreak), MAX PAYNE, and a few others - each one made a brief splash but none had any staying power compared to HL.
mods are the reason HL has 'legs' and mods are keeping HL alive now.

HL is TRULY a revolutionary game - will the same be said of mohaa?

still, my experince playing as the legendary Gordon Freeman will last far outlast my remberance of Lt. Powell.

For all those crying wolf over extreme realism:

You want perfect realistic and fun depiction of war? Join the army and call me while you're shivering in your foxhole as mortar shells explode over your head.

Oh and the weapon models do not suck. Why do people complain about MOHAA weapon models and not RTCW? I personaly believe RTCW's weapon models look like loaths of bread with a trigger attached.

just my 2 cents

Funny how you guys flame over the slightest slam against a game!
The reason most game reviewers give the games high marks is because if they don't the publishers won't send them free stuff!So they kiss their a**!
That's his opinion so let him have it.....He doesn't like the game so that gives all you Fanboys the right to flame someone! LMAO
Grow up and learn to respect other peoples opinions!
But I see most of you can't do that,Which just proves how imature you are!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I give your review a grade of F.
Dumbass. You suck, if you dont like this game, you have bad taste.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
lol ok
Now I can understand if you wanted to have an open discussion with Cerberus as to why he didn't like the game.But you just flame him for his opinion!
If you don't like his post don't read it and if you have,Give the reason why you liked it.
And maybe just maybe you might say something that he might have missed or didn't know about,You might just change his mind.
Many gamers are let down by this project because for 2 years the developers have been boasting how this is going to be the best and most realistic WWII sim out there.Well they didn't exactly deliver on this did they?They had to leave some of the game out because of EA wanting the game released as is..........NOT COMPLETE !
It was the same with B-17-2 The Mighty 8TH, Baulders gate II,AO and the list goes on.Many people are fed up with developers touting a game one way and delivering another!
If your having so much fun with the game why are you here instead of playing the game?
I know I will get flamed for this so Asbestos suit is zipped up http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif flame away!

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