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Ron 11-07-2003 01:43 PM

who Hates Shotguns!!
 
Who here hates shotties with a passion! So much they want to do this to them as much a s possible...
comegetsome: eatthis: flamethrower: quickshot:
haha

It's because of them that i play ONLY realism mods. When you are on those servers you actually have to aim...it's funny to watch newbies show up with their shotguns and get there asses torn to bits!! hellfire:

Snuff 11-07-2003 02:43 PM

You might want to put on a firemans suit because the flames
are coming my friend rolleyes:

YourFragged 11-07-2003 02:44 PM

lock this before i get carried away on that dumb pathetic post.

Pvt Flagg 11-07-2003 05:18 PM

the only people who hate shotguns ..are the people i point my shotie at

so quit yer whineing..and suck buckshot!

Doc Hayward 11-07-2003 05:28 PM

this is like the 9999999999999999999999 9th topic about this

Paintballr 11-07-2003 06:32 PM

It is but i havent seen one in about 6 months so eh who cares lol

Madmartagen 11-08-2003 04:15 AM

the ones who whine about shotguns do so because they get owned by them. the shotgun is a real and legit weapon, whats wrong with using it? if you are fighting in small hallway with a garand or k98, then you are a fucktard.

11-08-2003 11:09 AM

shotguns suck, mainly in real life

how can you compare a slipshod smooth bore tube that spits buckshot to a fine handcrafted Kar, or the intricate machinery of a BAR or Thompson?

not at all a "sexy" weapon (and hardly effective in a conventional war environment)

11-08-2003 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
the ones who whine about shotguns do so because they get owned by them. the shotgun is a real and legit weapon, whats wrong with using it? if you are fighting in small hallway with a garand or k98, then you are a fucktard.

no I own shotgun fags and still complain about it, mainly because it ruins the WWII experience set up for MOHAA when you have 5 krauts running around with American POLICE ISSUE Winchesters rolleyes:

notice that MOST (not all, Fragged) shotgun users simply refuse to use any other gun because they'll get owned.

YourFragged 11-08-2003 01:53 PM

true

Madmartagen 11-08-2003 04:01 PM

i would pick the thompson or k98 over the shotty any day of the week. when i play moh, i pick the weapon that best suits for my style of fighting. i use the shotty on stalingrad, the alleys of algiers, room cleaning and close fighting. i like to pick people off from a distance so i mainly use the garand, enfield and all the other rifles but i get bored after a while. if you use the shotty all the time you just run the risk of getting flushed out when you are discovered. i just think its lame when people are pissed that they get killed by a shotgun just because it is a shotgun.

Himmler 11-09-2003 04:04 AM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":fd894]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmartagen
the ones who whine about shotguns do so because they get owned by them. the shotgun is a real and legit weapon, whats wrong with using it? if you are fighting in small hallway with a garand or k98, then you are a fucktard.

no I own shotgun fags and still complain about it, mainly because it ruins the WWII experience set up for MOHAA[/quote:fd894]

thats what cod is for, mohaa sucks for any realism at all. o0 lets go lean while we run every second...at least the bunny hopping in cod will get fixed

YourFragged 11-09-2003 12:34 PM

yah i agree.. another thing they should look at is fixing how quickly you can scope with a sniper rifle.. its so easy to see a target, scope, and hes dead within a second. being a sniper, i wouldnt mind having a delayed scope to make it a little easier for bolt action rifles to have a CHANCE at firing at you. otherwise, the bolt action is of no effect from distance.

11-09-2003 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourFragged
yah i agree.. another thing they should look at is fixing how quickly you can scope with a sniper rifle.. its so easy to see a target, scope, and hes dead within a second. being a sniper, i wouldnt mind having a delayed scope to make it a little easier for bolt action rifles to have a CHANCE at firing at you. otherwise, the bolt action is of no effect from distance.

yeah, at least in COD you can't run and snipe, and the scope is a little wobbly if you're standing.

Airborne Butters 11-09-2003 12:57 PM

shotgun=for noobs. That's all I gotta say.

Short Hand 11-09-2003 01:29 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":7e026]
Quote:

Originally Posted by YourFragged
yah i agree.. another thing they should look at is fixing how quickly you can scope with a sniper rifle.. its so easy to see a target, scope, and hes dead within a second. being a sniper, i wouldnt mind having a delayed scope to make it a little easier for bolt action rifles to have a CHANCE at firing at you. otherwise, the bolt action is of no effect from distance.

yeah, at least in COD you can't run and snipe, and the scope is a little wobbly if you're standing.[/quote:7e026]


I think cod sniper rifle scopes need a even bigger delay. /Rifles dont do enough damage for some reason i make a direct shot with a sniper in the chest = dead Direct shot with kar in the chest and the guy lives some how....

Hobbes 11-09-2003 01:41 PM

Well I've noticed that no matter what game you play there are always those who instead of figuering away of beating a weapon they try to get it banned.

COD:

Sniper Rifle.

Russain PPSH - the deadliest cqc weapon in COD that can burn through a 70 round clip almost faster then the MP40 or Thompson can go through a 30 round clip.

Halo:

Fuel Rod Gun - Last time I checked the ban this thread was 6 pages.

Pistol - yup pistol owns in Halo

Raven Sheild:

L85A1 - Assault Rifle built in scope and with slincer has 100% stabilty which is an important factor in this game.

Short Hand 11-09-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobbes
Well I've noticed that no matter what game you play there are always those who instead of figuering away of beating a weapon they try to get it banned.

COD:

Sniper Rifle.

Russain PPSH - the deadliest cqc weapon in COD that can burn through a 70 round clip almost faster then the MP40 or Thompson can go through a 30 round clip.

Halo:

Fuel Rod Gun - Last time I checked the ban this thread was 6 pages.

Pistol - yup pistol owns in Halo

Raven Sheild:

L85A1 - Assault Rifle built in scope and with slincer has 100% stabilty which is an important factor in this game.

im not to fond of the ppsh. It may burn bulles faster then a lighter to an aerosol can, but its range is horrible. most rifle men with a bit of skill can pick um off easily before they can get up close and do any real damage.

-as for snipers like i said the scope is great/ realistic but the delay in geting the scope to your eye is to short making for like in mohaa making snap shot snipers where you have almost no chance against even in short and long range engagements. beer: cheers. 1.1 patch shall be interesting when it arrives.

YourFragged 11-09-2003 03:00 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":69a14]
Quote:

Originally Posted by YourFragged
yah i agree.. another thing they should look at is fixing how quickly you can scope with a sniper rifle.. its so easy to see a target, scope, and hes dead within a second. being a sniper, i wouldnt mind having a delayed scope to make it a little easier for bolt action rifles to have a CHANCE at firing at you. otherwise, the bolt action is of no effect from distance.

yeah, at least in COD you can't run and snipe, and the scope is a little wobbly if you're standing.[/quote:69a14]

yah thast one thing i like about it. not being able to run

Zoner 11-10-2003 09:11 AM

Sweet jeezus, not this again.

pest 11-10-2003 09:40 AM

People like the original poster are what make shotguns such a joy to use. hellfire:

Ron 11-10-2003 03:47 PM

i don't mind shotgun when realism is on...in realism you have to be right on top of the person to get good shots...like in real life.
But i'm sure everyone knows what i'm talking about in maps such as the missle complex in which people just run around with their shotguns and blast everyone with one or 2 shots your dead...So what happenes? EVERYONE ends up using a shotgun...which is absolutely retarded.

The other things is this...[quote="Sgt Stryker":2dec4]
notice that MOST (not all, Fragged) shotgun users simply refuse to use any other gun because they'll get owned.[/quote:2dec4]

My sentiments EXACTLY I can't stand it when i put like 5 or 6 shots froma BAR into a guy and fires like once or twice and downs me. they then talk shit like they are good but really...put anything else in their hands and they'll get so owned they will think others are cheating!! haha

I have no problem with any other weapons...rockets are fine and quite usefull if you have like 5 snipers per bunker on the omaha map. snipers are annoying...but at least you know it takes skill.

Pvt Flagg 11-10-2003 04:28 PM

sorry if we shotgun users piss the rest of you off by playing the game the way thay made it ..

ohh i got killed by a person useing a stock weapon ..now im gona cry ...

wah ..i hate rockets..but i alow rockets on all 3 of my servers..why ..cause its part of the game..

dont play then bitch cause sameone choses to use a more efective weapon ...

i can see how the war could have been ...

Gen Isenhower.."MR hittler..we are ruining this war by blowing eatchother up ..lets not use rockets.."

Hittler ..."..(puling out pansershreck) ..BOOM..."

just suck it up ..the shotgun is a great weapon up close..but it blows at aney range ...so wile im trying to get close enugh to make my shotie efective..you have emptyed a clip into me ..

every weapon has its place...im not gona drag a shotgun through berlin ..and dont cry when your eat buckshot on V2..

Ron 11-10-2003 05:23 PM

damn calm down calmdown: I'm no one's bitch lol

granted a shotgun is good for V2 map but on some servers the shotgun has an imbalance of power so that people can simply charge guys whith rifles, mg's, and smg's and just level them. It takes away from the game and some people rely on them too much. My main point...
THEIR POWER IS IMBALANCED AND PEOPLE ABUSE THEM. but not all people.

Also when their power is too imbalanced everyone ends up using them and before you know it all you have is a prey and spray charge fest.

If you want to get realistic how real is it to have people running down halls so as to get as close as possible...in real life poeple would crawl and sneak their way around corners...like you would have to in real life, and that is what usually happens when shotguns don't hijack the map.
Also along the lines of realism...shotguns were not a common weapon at all among slodiers in the war...and they were especially more uncommon among axis forces...and as another said...i KNOW the germans didn't have winchester shotguns LOL rolleyes:

YourFragged 11-10-2003 06:21 PM

STFU ALREADY

my god. i fucken HATE people like you. seriously, go cry me a river. this game was NOT meant to be realistic. if you want realism, go play CoD. now that is realistic. if you cannot kill a shotgun from long distance or heck even from close range, you are obviously not that good.. shotgunning, like every weapon, has its advantage and disadvantage..

my advice to you is to quit bitching about a weapon and start practicing. sounds like you could use the work.

told yah to loick it. just made me go all out

Merlin122 11-10-2003 06:21 PM

well. Hitler felt the same way about shotguns as most of u guys do. Back in WW2 the usual combat engineer was handed a shotgun to use in the field. now this weapon was so devastating at close range it seemed almost unfair on the battlefield. Now Hitler's engineers were usually equipped with the Mauser. And after looking at this many casualties in the field he decided that this was against the gentlemenly rules of war. So he tried getting it banned at the genuva convention. Fortunately it was never banned and the combat engineers fought on with this powerful weapon.

11-10-2003 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin122
well. Hitler felt the same way about shotguns as most of u guys do. Back in WW2 the usual combat engineer was handed a shotgun to use in the field. now this weapon was so devastating at close range it seemed almost unfair on the battlefield. Now Hitler's engineers were usually equipped with the Mauser. And after looking at this many casualties in the field he decided that this was against the gentlemenly rules of war. So he tried getting it banned at the genuva convention. Fortunately it was never banned and the combat engineers fought on with this powerful weapon.

but could the engineer take 5 BAR shots in the chest and still dance the jig?

shotguns are overpowered because other weapons are pussified compared to real life. Fortunately most shotgun users are uber n00bs and can be out dogfought (use of higher altitude is advisable)

Ron 11-10-2003 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourFragged
STFU ALREADY

my god. i fucken HATE people like you. seriously, go cry me a river. this game was NOT meant to be realistic. if you want realism, go play CoD. now that is realistic. if you cannot kill a shotgun from long distance or heck even from close range, you are obviously not that good.. shotgunning, like every weapon, has its advantage and disadvantage..

my advice to you is to quit bitching about a weapon and start practicing. sounds like you could use the work.

told yah to loick it. just made me go all out

Um dude calm the hell down. eek:
I think i made my points clear. I think most people would agree that shotguns are too powerful and that it is a pain in the ass when newbies abuse them to kill veteran players not using them. I find it annoying when because of the power of them whole servers become a pray and spray fest. I have been playing for over a year and although i can't prove it obviosly i believe i am pretty good or at least better than average.

The intensity to which you reacted to my comments show me that obviosly you have nothing better to do in your life at the moment than play MOH. Relax man. annoy:


Oh and in regards to the shotguns being banned it was actually a Peace conference in the hague. The problem was the ammo not the guns. Expanding and soft ammo was outlawned. Since buckshot is soft and thus expanded when it hit flesh it could be argued that shotguns were thus an illegal weapon. However they are still utilized in militaries all over.

YourFragged 11-10-2003 08:55 PM

no ron, you are quite quite wrong. just seeing people like you post this over and over and over and over again kinda gets on my nerves. bitch about something else for cying out loud

Ron 11-10-2003 08:58 PM

Forums are made for bitching, argueing and talking...i see nothing that says...no bitching about shotguns.
I am just discussing an aspect of the game that i dislike. I dson't think that is a crime. Of course i keep replying because i have to defend myself from your offending comments.

Ron 11-10-2003 09:04 PM

i added a poll to see what the MAJORITY think. angel:

11-10-2003 10:11 PM

the weapon whining IS getting a little old considering that the game has been out forever and theres like 50, 000 realism mods.

Short Hand 11-10-2003 11:25 PM

I LUV SHOTTIES IM SUCH A N00B OMG HAXOR N00B SHOTGUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


........who gives a flying F*&%.

YourFragged 11-11-2003 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron
Forums are made for bitching, argueing and talking...i see nothing that says...no bitching about shotguns.
I am just discussing an aspect of the game that i dislike. I dson't think that is a crime. Of course i keep replying because i have to defend myself from your offending comments.

well you are new to the forums. expect it. no one wants to hear this age old topic about shotguns.

Pvt Flagg 11-11-2003 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogman74
You might want to put on a firemans suit because the flames
are coming my friend rolleyes:

hehe ron when hogman said this ...he was right ..

Ron 11-11-2003 03:38 PM

biggrin: LOL he was right

boy i need to find an avatar or something...my posts always look so damn boring!

@rkley 11-11-2003 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron
biggrin: LOL he was right

boy i need to find an avatar or something...my posts always look so damn boring!

request an avatar or sig !

Ozma 11-11-2003 09:34 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":f00ba]shotguns suck, mainly in real life

how can you compare a slipshod smooth bore tube that spits buckshot to a fine handcrafted Kar, or the intricate machinery of a BAR or Thompson?

not at all a "sexy" weapon (and hardly effective in a conventional war environment)[/quote:f00ba]
you seem to have a deep DEEP passion for guns. Sorry my friend, but a gun is not "sexy". you need to get your priorites straight, although i do hate shotties

Ron 11-11-2003 10:37 PM

[quote="@rkley":fc73a]

request an avatar or sig ![/quote:fc73a]

Who do i contact? I can't make them myself...cause i don't know how...and don't have the tools to do it.

Pvt Flagg 11-11-2003 10:40 PM

post in the introduce yourself/sig test forum and ask one of them ..thay will be more than happy to do it


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