<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Medal of Honor: Allied Assault

Best single player FPS since Half-Life. On any platform.

Period.

Cliff
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Looks like someone isn't afraid to handle the truth...

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Saying MOH is the best FPS is over exaggerating. Yes it's a fun game, but very from being the best.

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These are people's opinions. If you think it is the best FPS ever, go ahead and think that. I don't hate MOHAA but I still think Half-Life is the best FPS ever.

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Tell me, since Half-life, what other FPS do you think is better?

If someone says NOLF I'm going to crack up

Ok, then.

NOLF. :P

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RTCW isn't that bad.

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of course Wolfenstien 3d is the best

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RTCW is a badass game. Operation Flashpoint is also really good. I liked it because you could do basically anything you wanted to.

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You guys can think of it what you want, im a gamer from the old School and i say MOH is the all round Best online FPS ever!

Its Sound drags you in, and gets you freaking rushed at times.
Its GFX are just awesome, Yes! beter then Wolfes Dark gothic like look.

BlaBlaBala, you know the deal.
Halflife was cool in in its time but it was pushed aside prity quick by UT, just like UT is Crushed by MOH.

What the future brings, who knows.

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My favorite FPS are:
Half-Life
Quake1
Operation Flashpoint
Halo (yes thats right)

I think Quake1 would be the best, it had me hooked for a loooooooong time.

-=Lithium=-

I think Half-Life was so-so, it was kinda cheesy...I know I'll get flamed for that one.

my fav's:
-Unreal and UT(bot matches count for sp)
-SOF (Strictly for cruelity!)
-Operation Flashpoint(not at first, but then it really grew on me)
-Heavy Gear 2

I've played just about all FPS games. I like my games to be open ended for configuration.

Half-Life and Wolfenstein 3D are the two most important games in FPS history. Without Half-Life, we wouldn't have the Medal of Honor games we know and love. That's why you can't really say what's better.

What does Half life have to do with MOH? It was designed around the Quake 3 engine. I think you're all just brain-washed by pc gamer magazine...Half Life was only ok at best, imho.

It's all about multi-player and fan base. Look at all the Mods for Half-life, like DoD 2.0 (Great Mod) which is soon to be released.

Half-Life still has a couple of years ahead of it. It's kind of questionable with Medal of Honor.

-=Lithium=-

If it's all about multi-player and fan-base(which I strongly disagree), then UT still blows HL out of the water.

Why is everyone here playing MoHAA, and constantly talking trash about it. It's the best, if you dont think so, go play Half-Life or Whatever,.....

I am not dissing MOH, I just dont think it's the best FPS out there.

-=Lithium=-

I agree with Lithium...MOH is incredible for what it is. But it completely lacks the openess of other games like Operation Flashpoint and UT. Who knows maybe that will all change if they release a game editor that's fairly basic and straight foward.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jesta:
If someone says NOLF I'm going to crack up<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hahahahha, then why in almost all reviews the game got, many editors claimed NOLF to be the best FPS since Half-Life? If you don't think it is, what game do you think is the best FPS since Half-Life?

MoH single player is far from the best. The MP in my opinion will be up there http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>What does Half life have to do with MOH<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Half-Life was incredibly important to the entire FPS genre. Some seem to miss this.

Before Half-Life every FPS was just a shoot-em-up. None tried to integrate story, puzzles, or strategy. Ok, maybe the original System Shock, but it never got the popularity to make a change in the industry. The most important aspect is story. All previous FPS games conveyed story through text or pathetic cutscenes. When it came down to it they all ended up being the same "kill monsters, find the key, get to the exit" game. Now granted that Half-Life's story was not Pulitzer material, but it was the first to be fully integrated into the game. Half-Life was perhaps the first FPS to truely motivate the player. You weren't just killing stuff to get to the next level, you were staying live, trying to figure out what happened, learning piece by piece what was going on. Half-Life gave berth to an entire new dimension of interactive story telling in games.

Secondly, Half-Life was the first FPS to implement scripting in a major way. Previously all FPSs just had enemies. There was no interaction around you. Half-Life created an atmosphere by including non-enemy characters and then having them interact in the environment. The enemies didn't simply attack, they carrierd out other activities; they were not single-minded like previous games. This created a game world that felt alive, and this is what took most people by shock. We take scripting for granted these days, but Half-Life was the first in a new wave of 'alive' FPS games.

I can still go back today and play Half-Life and enjoy it. It definitely has lost some of its luster; however, I remember when it first came out, I had never played anything like it before. It hooked me in a way that few games ever have (in fact I can think of only two others that enthralled me the way HL did: Outcast and Homeworld); for this reason I definitely believe it deserves that #1 spot in PC Gamer's list.

Anyway the point is that HL raised the bar for all FPS games. Without it it's likely we wouldn't have games as great as MOHAA today.

HL sucks...get over it. Quake was revolutionary when it came out, and you know what...it sucks now. Super Mario was revolutionary when it came out...now, no one would want to even make a clone.

I feel people are way to hung up on old games. I've been intensely playing video games since 1983...and I've yet to find a game that makes me so nostalgic I would want to go replay it.

Half Life was interesting for a week two...but that's about it. I'll give it credit for story telling in FPS games...but the best FPS games are the best not for their story telling properties or scripted events, but, imo, their openess to user manipulation. UT and Operation Flashpoint have yet to get old for me, because every time I play them it's a new experiance. Rest assured though, once their sequals are released, they will be permantly put to rest without any looking back.

well put stevedroid!!! and I couldnt agree with you more

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You guy's are all forgetting SiN. Yes, it was buggy when it was released but after a patch it was a top notch. The level design in SiN is just insane, no other game even comes near it by far (This includes Quake's, Unreal's, SoF and Half-Life). And you cant forget the awesome expansion pack that 2015 made to it. Yes, SiN has to be greatest shooter ever made, period. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

I probobally dont know it but i think rogue spear is my fravourite fps, it had me hooked for ages. i used to LOVE playing online and at one time i had a phone bill of over £140!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>hahahahha, then why in almost all reviews the game got, many editors claimed NOLF to be the best FPS since Half-Life?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have no idea why, but you want to know what I think?

Not only was NOLF's AI retarded and repetitive, the levels were boring and stupid. (opinion)

So NOLF let you ride a motorcycle. Big freakin deal.

I'm not saying the game sucked, just that it wasn't anything worthy of a Game of the Year award. Don't know why the hell it got that.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> If you don't think it is, what game do you think is the best FPS since Half-Life?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Deus Ex. It was full of suspense and had a much better story than NOLF. It was nowhere near as linear either.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ApostleX3000:
If it's all about multi-player and fan-base(which I strongly disagree), then UT still blows HL out of the water.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
UT cant come close to the number of people playing counter-strike.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jesta:
Looks like someone isn't afraid to handle the truth...

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CliffyB is hot.


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Recycled Spooge:
CliffyB is hot.


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He's muy caliente!!! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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CliffyB is the one on the right. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

btw, he's much like Tyler. They both have something for cats. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by colonel_ hogan:
The best fps of all time would have to be the Tom Clancy Rainbow series. My personal favourite was Rouge Spear and still is. Animations and graphics are still terrific 3-4 years later, although its starting to show its age.
Ghost Recon tried to be better but I still have a soft spot for RS. Half-life has poor sound and cartoonish graphics. I never really liked it. MOH is great but is not the greatest, but has the potential to become a true classic like RS.
Quake was also one of my personal favourites and I especially liked its evil gothic like overtones and hidden secrets. Loved blowing up those mummies heh.
When q2 came out it turned me off the quake series for life! too lame for me.
anyway thers my thoughts http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

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DAMN! I forgot about that series. I have so many games I cannot keep track of them. LOL! I got Rainbow 6 the day it came out and I played it for a long time. Me and a few other Zone buddies started a clan and it was pretty fun. The NATO mod made the game really fun in multiplayer. Rogue Spear was also really fun. I downloaded the Ghost Recon demo but I wasn't really feeling that game. The full version is probably better so I will probably buy it eventually.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stevedroid:
Half-Life was incredibly important to the entire FPS genre. Some seem to miss this.

Before Half-Life every FPS was just a shoot-em-up. None tried to integrate story, puzzles, or strategy. Ok, maybe the original System Shock, but it never got the popularity to make a change in the industry. The most important aspect is story. All previous FPS games conveyed story through text or pathetic cutscenes. When it came down to it they all ended up being the same "kill monsters, find the key, get to the exit" game. Now granted that Half-Life's story was not Pulitzer material, but it was the first to be fully integrated into the game. Half-Life was perhaps the first FPS to truely motivate the player. You weren't just killing stuff to get to the next level, you were staying live, trying to figure out what happened, learning piece by piece what was going on. Half-Life gave berth to an entire new dimension of interactive story telling in games.

Secondly, Half-Life was the first FPS to implement scripting in a major way. Previously all FPSs just had enemies. There was no interaction around you. Half-Life created an atmosphere by including non-enemy characters and then having them interact in the environment. The enemies didn't simply attack, they carrierd out other activities; they were not single-minded like previous games. This created a game world that felt alive, and this is what took most people by shock. We take scripting for granted these days, but Half-Life was the first in a new wave of 'alive' FPS games.

I can still go back today and play Half-Life and enjoy it. It definitely has lost some of its luster; however, I remember when it first came out, I had never played anything like it before. It hooked me in a way that few games ever have (in fact I can think of only two others that enthralled me the way HL did: Outcast and Homeworld); for this reason I definitely believe it deserves that #1 spot in PC Gamer's list.

Anyway the point is that HL raised the bar for all FPS games. Without it it's likely we wouldn't have games as great as MOHAA today.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

True dat. Every once and a while I go play that scene on the roof top where there are enemies dropping down those ropes and shooting at you. That scene was tight. I didn't like the regular Half-Life multiplayer but the mods for it kept it alive and fun.

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The best fps of all time would have to be the Tom Clancy Rainbow series. My personal favourite was Rouge Spear and still is. Animations and graphics are still terrific 3-4 years later, although its starting to show its age.
Ghost Recon tried to be better but I still have a soft spot for RS. Half-life has poor sound and cartoonish graphics. I never really liked it. MOH is great but is not the greatest, but has the potential to become a true classic like RS.
Quake was also one of my personal favourites and I especially liked its evil gothic like overtones and hidden secrets. Loved blowing up those mummies heh.
When q2 came out it turned me off the quake series for life! too lame for me.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by madrebel:
[B] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ApostleX3000:
If it's all about multi-player and fan-base(which I strongly disagree), then UT still blows HL out of the water.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


HalfLife is as popular as it is cos its a very low end systemgame.
There are far more ppl running 400mhz CPU's then there are ppl with 1gig's
And why play a game that runs at 10FPS
when you can run halfLife (CS) at 30FPS or so.
Frame Rate is Life!

Also, HalfLife playes prity slick in Software rendering, i dare to say that 50% of the HalfLife players are playing in that mode.

This is why its so popular.
Not cos of its GFX
Not cos of its Sounds
Not cos of its Ai engine
Not cos of its (cheating) Online FanBase
Not cos of its And Hell not cos its weak Map ed app.


And plz dont spill any beans on UT, cos its a freakin masterpeace.

Same go's for Quake3, even though i was a UTer.


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[This message has been edited by DigitalSmoke (edited January 24, 2002).]

As said by DigitalSmoke:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>HalfLife is as popular as it is cos its a very low end systemgame.
There are far more ppl running 400mhz CPU's then there are ppl with 1gig's.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You hit the nail on the head, my friend.

Jeez...I guess I just took for granted having a high-end system(even though it's listed as entry level in pc-gamer). I truely believe, however, that the discriminating gamer with the hardware would choose UT over HL anyday.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ApostleX3000:
...and I've yet to find a game that makes me so nostalgic I would want to go replay it.

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I'm sorry, but just a few months ago, I went and played a doom2 port (gldoom2) and it f00king owned. I don't think I could ever get bored of that game. Simple, yes. Outdated, yes. Fun as f00k to play, YES!
Doom2 got me started on multiplayer gaming and it hasn't stopped yet.
If there's any game that is nostalgic for me right now, it's doom/doom2.

And yes, I'm a fps game junkie, I've played and own alot of em, they all are good and bad. To each's own, no sense arguing which is better. Might as well debate who has better hair http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Duke Nukem
Quake
Half Life
Wolfie
Ghost Recon
Medal of Honor

MOH is my current favorite but not the best. It still does not have the intensity and authentic feel of Ghost Recon.

I must say the Omaha part was the best thing I have ever seen in a FPS, ever.

After getting up on the beach and then to the fence and then to the bunker base and then finally in the bunker looking out at the large beach with soldiers running from the shore made me stop and watch for quite some time.

Just an opinion from an old gamer.