lmao Canada
 

OTTAWA -- Canada's air force, as well as either the army or navy, will likely cease to exist around the end of this decade unless the federal government orders a massive infusion of cash, warns a Queen's University study to be released today.

In a scathing report: Canada Without Armed Forces?, researchers paint a gloomy picture about the country's defences.

If the situation isn't fixed, Canada will have trouble exerting control over its own territory, making a contribution to the international scene and repairing the country's damaged relationship with the U.S., the study concludes.

"The next government will be caught up in a cascading policy entanglement initiated by the rapid collapse of Canadian Forces core assets and core capabilities. This problem will inevitably disarm foreign policy as Canada repeatedly backs away from international commitments because it lacks adequate military forces."

If funding for new equipment continues to decline and is not increased, "then the air force will likely disappear through the 2008-2013 time-frame, and either the army or navy will disappear in the same time frame."

It recommends the direct intervention of incoming prime minister Paul Martin to halt the decline and begin to lay the groundwork for revitalizing the armed forces. It also states the defence budget should be boosted to $18.5 billion annually, up around $5 billion from present levels.

The report was produced by officials with the defence management studies program at Queen's University in collaboration with the Ottawa-based Conference of Defence Associations.

Doug Bland, who led the study, said the crisis in the military is so extensive that even if Martin earmarks a substantial amount of money for the Canadian Forces the situation would not change immediately.

"Even if he found $3 billion a year for the armed forces, it's not going to solve his problem because of the legacy he's been left with by Mulroney and Chretien," Bland, chairman of the defence management studies program said. "We ran out of armed forces."

He noted fixing the problem will take the efforts of Martin's government as well as the next. Bland predicted Martin will likely cut military capabilities to solve other problems he faces.

That will further hurt relations with the U.S., which has voiced concerns about Canada not pulling its weight in defence matters, he added.

It will also have a direct impact on Canadian sovereignty.

"The real cost to Canadians if this $18.5 billion allocation is not provided will be not simply a loss of international respect, but most likely the loss of control over most of Canada's territory and, ultimately, the forfeiting of national sovereignty," according to the study.

In the past, Defence Minister John McCallum has dismissed such reports, saying he does not take advice from retired senior officers and military analysts but from the Canadian Forces leadership. To counter such claims, Canada Without Armed Forces? relies heavily on the defence reports and statistics, as well as studies produced by the Senate and the Commons defence committee.

The study recommends a planned review of defence issues to deal immediately with the crisis and recommend ways in which current forces might be stretched and preserved until replacements become available.

lmao? do we really need to start this whole shithole of a debate over again? gtfo noob.annoy:

[quote:0e65d]lmao canada[/quote:0e65d]

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Hah, I kind of find it funny myself... I won't lie rolleyes:

Canada will most likely raise it's budget. I don't think thier entire military will go under.

lol I see why you guys didnt help us now in Iraq. Noob lmao I been here a very long time. Dont get mad its only a post. USA will protect your asses.

[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":34f72]Hah, I kind of find it funny myself... I won't lie rolleyes:

Canada will most likely raise it's budget. I don't think thier entire military will go under.[/quote:34f72]

yea, they will probably throw out things that cost a lot to maintence(tanks and other stuff they should have) for crappy lavs...

But the thing is, do they really need an army?

Well Enigma I think every country should have some sort of "National Guard". Regardless if they are aggresive or not... remember what happened after World War One?? Everyone thought that was the war to end all wars... everyone de-militarized themselves. But, what do I know? lol

I think he ment do they realy need an army. with USA right below them. They may hate us but we would help them in a heart beat.

if lav's suck then why did the states buy them. i understand that using a lav as a mbt is a big mistake.

Re: lmao Canada
 

we would rather get rid of it. Then moouch if off the fuck of you. b00n

What an asshate to quote all that. and if it was up to me we would invade your ass, and hunt you down like we did Saddam. Punk, thats some one who sucks dick for cigs in prison.

its ok, we don't need a military. Like i said all we have is right under our Feet. biggrin: Thkz for the free stuff cya later.

Why don't we need to calmdown: , I didnt get offeneded reading this guys posts and I am a Canadian.

I wasnt trying to offend any one.

then maybe you should have voiced your opinion about it. Fluanting it in front of us like a peice of meat we, kinda get pissed off.

then change the "lmao"

[quote:dece7]then maybe you should have voiced your opinion about it. Fluanting it in front of us like a peice of meat we can't have kindap isses people off.
[/quote:dece7]


the thing is you Canadians throw shit in our face every day here. You can dish it out but not take it? and I do find it funny, thats not being offensive, Just stating your country is not as perfect as you seem to think it is. Now you know how it feels when you insult the USA.

hockey > military

the thing is you Canadians throw shit in our face every day here. You can dish it out but not take it? and I do find it funny, thats not being offensive, Just stating your country is not as perfect as you seem to think it is. Now you know how it feels when you insult the USA.[/quote:cf6df]

omg you are so right. i am going to kill myself now because I have been insulted by an American. Its all over.

there will always be a canadian military, and you would have to be the biggest fool to think that one day there would be no money going into the canadian army.

dont belive any article that you read when they start there fucking sentences with IF. if this, if that......its just retarded

Truth is Canada's military is grossly underfunded. Myybe this new PM will change that.

Never said I believed it I just said its funny. I would hope its not true I dont think your country is that dumb to do that.

[quote="Short Hand":c9daf]its ok, we don't need a military. Like i said all we have is right under our Feet. biggrin: Thkz for the free stuff cya later.[/quote:c9daf]

Obviously there is TONS of food under your feet.

the thing is you Canadians throw shit in our face every day here. You can dish it out but not take it? and I do find it funny, thats not being offensive, Just stating your country is not as perfect as you seem to think it is. Now you know how it feels when you insult the USA.[/quote:5d499]
most ironic post ive ever read.

Being from the states I am more concerned with the impending NHL lockout after this season.

[quote="Xorcist [USA]":7886d]Being from the states I am more concerned with the impending NHL lockout after this season.[/quote:7886d]

lmao rock:

[quote="Xorcist [USA]":46951]Being from the states I am more concerned with the impending NHL lockout after this season.[/quote:46951]

you would be nailed to the chross up here for that. Its not going to happen. rock: never ever beer:

[quote="Animal Mother":c5a94][quote="Short Hand":c5a94]its ok, we don't need a military. Like i said all we have is right under our Feet. biggrin: Thkz for the free stuff cya later.[/quote:c5a94]

Obviously there is TONS of food under your feet.[/quote:c5a94]

and nuclear missles, and a large army

meh,

Hockey > Baseball

Hockey = Canada, Baseball = USA

Therefor, Canada > USA

Why do we even need an army? noones gonna attack us until the US runs out of countries to ruin.

...thanks for that. eek:

Does Canada really need an army/airforce is all one needs nowadays is a nuclear warhead and a rocket?

I just think its funny how all these anti-american canadians here love to poke fun at all the problems of the states...and someone makes one post which shows a problem of canada's.... and they flip out and start flamnig the guy...but if they make some post that bashes america or its leadership and we(americans) have a problem with what they posted...they again flip out and start flaming, a double standard here or what?

[quote="Cpl. Eames":28049]I just think its funny how all these anti-american canadians here love to poke fun at all the problems of the states...and someone makes one post which shows a problem of canada's.... and they flip out and start flamnig the guy...but if they make some post that bashes america or its leadership and we(americans) have a problem with what they posted...they again flip out and start flaming, a double standard here or what?[/quote:28049]

Where are the flames on this thread? I see all the Canadians just saying 'We don't really need an Army, we have the USA!"

Oh and, All the Amercians here are the same way. So, to stop all this Canada vs. USA bollocks, No one should even mention anything negative about either Nation.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":68e5a]I just think its funny how all these anti-american canadians here love to poke fun at all the problems of the states...and someone makes one post which shows a problem of canada's.... and they flip out and start flamnig the guy...but if they make some post that bashes america or its leadership and we(americans) have a problem with what they posted...they again flip out and start flaming, a double standard here or what?[/quote:68e5a]

Don't you have A Klan meeting to attend fucktard ? Or a jew to bash ?

[quote=Quze]Where are the flames on this thread? I see all the Canadians just saying 'We don't really need an Army, we have the USA!"

Oh and, All the Amercians here are the same way. So, to stop all this Canada vs. USA bollocks, No one should even mention anything negative about either Nation.[/quote:60305]

Well, if you read the first 2 responses to this thread telling him "to stfu noob" etc and shorthands response to my post to reiterate my point of if you don't agree with their anti-american agenda they have to flame everyone who disagrees with them and proves them wrong to try and make their position seem like a valid one because thats there only response there capable of because they don't have good reasons for their stances except for their blind hatred of our leader.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":eba71][quote=Quze]Where are the flames on this thread? I see all the Canadians just saying 'We don't really need an Army, we have the USA!"

Oh and, All the Amercians here are the same way. So, to stop all this Canada vs. USA bollocks, No one should even mention anything negative about either Nation.[/quote:eba71]

Well, if you read the first 2 responses to this thread telling him "to stfu noob" etc and shorthands response to my post to reiterate my point of if you don't agree with their anti-american agenda they have to flame everyone who disagrees with them and proves them wrong to try and make their position seem like a valid one because thats there only response there capable of because they don't have good reasons for their stances except for their blind hatred of our leader.[/quote:eba71]

The only hatred I have right now is for you. Lets keep the moron out of this ok ?

Ya i know, its obvious you hate me because I dont share your anti-american agenda, even though I've never flamed you or said anything that personaly attacked you. But I can understand your frustration...if someone came along and constantly proved all of my points wrong, I'd be angry too, and probably would be calling them a stupid hipee comunist that needed to go back to russia.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":d9b07][quote=Quze]Where are the flames on this thread? I see all the Canadians just saying 'We don't really need an Army, we have the USA!"

Oh and, All the Amercians here are the same way. So, to stop all this Canada vs. USA bollocks, No one should even mention anything negative about either Nation.[/quote:d9b07]

Well, if you read the first 2 responses to this thread telling him "to stfu noob" etc and shorthands response to my post to reiterate my point of if you don't agree with their anti-american agenda they have to flame everyone who disagrees with them and proves them wrong to try and make their position seem like a valid one because thats there only response there capable of because they don't have good reasons for their stances except for their blind hatred of our leader.[/quote:d9b07]

this thread was only made to get flames you fag.
even if he says it wasnt, it was

[quote=1080jibber][quote="Cpl. Eames":5a892]Well, if you read the first 2 responses to this thread telling him "to stfu noob" etc and shorthands response to my post to reiterate my point of if you don't agree with their anti-american agenda they have to flame everyone who disagrees with them and proves them wrong to try and make their position seem like a valid one because thats there only response there capable of because they don't have good reasons for their stances except for their blind hatred of our leader.[/quote:5a892]

this thread was only made to get flames you fag.
even if he says it wasnt, it was[/quote:5a892]

So why are you and all of your canadian buddies getting all offended over it, you have posted way worse about the states...if you can critisize us we can critisize you.