new freedom tower in new york
 

it will be 1776 feet tall, shaped like statue of liberty kinda the torch part. have a wnd generator in it too.

annoy:

http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/vie ... 8a24f7ca72

i see that now but was no where near when i posted sorry.

Is that height at 1776 ft, have anything to do with the year 1776, or is it just a fluke?

Probably a fluke.

It has to do with the year.

What happen in that year?

US declared its independence.

I pray that was sarcasm. eek:

[quote="Short Hand":59de6]
I pray that was sarcasm. eek:[/quote:59de6]

dont think he is from the US.

Haven't they learnt the lessons of the dangers of tall buildings? It would truly suck if another plane flew into this one...

How come it isnt 1783 feet high, thats the year you guys won the war isn't it?

[quote=JBird]dont think he is from the US.[/quote:f031e]

Im Canadian oOo:

The war ended in 1783, but that’s beside the point. It shouldn't be called the Freedom Tower anyways. This isn't a war for freedom, we are free, and no one will ever threaten that. This war on terror is a war of vengeance, and a suitable show of determination and defiance would have been to resurrect the twin towers. And when we catch Osama, we can celebrate by tossing him off the top of one of them.

As a member of the architectural profession I have many opinions on all of the designs that have been proposed for the redevlopment/reconstruction of the trade centers. Although much of the public would like to see the land designated strictly towards a memorial... that's just not economically feasible for the manhatten area. That land is worth just too much money. Thus many designers have proposed to create structures that serve as both functional space and memorial space. I dont exactly agree with this approach either, but it seems to be a reasoning point for much of the public.

In regards to reconstructing the towers you have to think about the experience of urban life and the events of 9/11. Imagine the world as a sheet of fabric. On 9/11 that fabric was violently torn. For us to rebuild the trade centers exactly as Minoru Yamasaki had designed them, we would be making a metaphorical statement that says. "Nothing has happened... and nothing has changed" By re-designing the towers in a contemporary and monumental manner, we are showing the stiches and repairs to our fabric. We are making an architectural statement that says we are a people that can heal and maintain unity and strength. And when we do heal... we heal stronger... We let nothing threaten our way of life.


Just an opinion.

[quote="Short Hand":7690d][quote=JBird]dont think he is from the US.[/quote:7690d]

Im Canadian oOo:[/quote:7690d]

um , quze is the one who made the comment that short was referring too oOo:

Thats a huge fucking building

so whats to stop 9/11 hapenning to this tower?

they probly are building a forcefield around it, from the technology from Area 51.

probably a no fly zone around it and patriot missles and aa guns on the top of it

[quote="Cpt. Obvious":dd624]probably a no fly zone around it and patriot missles and aa guns on the top of it[/quote:dd624]
Dude. That would be awesome

Yes, AA Guns and SAM's. DC, NY, and a few other major cities already have these installations atop some of theri buildings and on the ground. Of course they are not easily seen. Ill see if I can snag a picture of one of buildings in DC that has (what appears to be 2 missles) on its roof top There is also the possibility a new aircraft override control system that is under development. Where air controllers can take over the planes auto pilot system and force it to hold a course and alititude. The pilot would not be able to override the system without a passcode. We'll see if it actually goes to production.

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":6b9ef]Yes, AA Guns and SAM's. DC, NY, and a few other major cities already have these installations atop some of theri buildings and on the ground. Of course they are not easily seen. Ill see if I can snag a picture of one of buildings in DC that has (what appears to be 2 missles) on its roof top There is also the possibility a new aircraft override control system that is under development. Where air controllers can take over the planes auto pilot system and force it to hold a course and alititude. The pilot would not be able to override the system without a passcode. We'll see if it actually goes to production.[/quote:6b9ef]

The pics would be cool...and that aircraft override control system sounds like a great idea.

[quote="Cpl. Eames":c47de]Yes, AA Guns and SAM's. DC, NY, and a few other major cities already have these installations atop some of theri buildings and on the ground. Of course they are not easily seen. Ill see if I can snag a picture of one of buildings in DC that has (what appears to be 2 missles) on its roof top There is also the possibility a new aircraft override control system that is under development. Where air controllers can take over the planes auto pilot system and force it to hold a course and alititude. The pilot would not be able to override the system without a passcode. We'll see if it actually goes to production.[/quote:c47de]

wat about planes without autopilot?

[quote=m1ck97]wat about planes without autopilot?[/quote:31096]

shoot it down with your AA gun ed:

CN TOWER

ID like to get that job

IMHO, These new towers look stupid. Not only are they now the #1 Target for Terrorists, but in 10 years, when things looking that abstract are no longer trendy, they'll be seen to be fucking stupid looking.

Replica's of the originals, says I, with 'Chumbawumba - Tubthumping' playing at the re-opening;
"I get knocked down, but I get up again, you're never gonna keep me down..."

[quote="Captain Wilkins":5f139]
"I get knocked down, but I get up again, you're never gonna keep me down..."[/quote:5f139]

LMAO!!

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":ebaea]Haven't they learnt the lessons of the dangers of tall buildings? It would truly suck if another plane flew into this one...

How come it isnt 1783 feet high, thats the year you guys won the war isn't it?[/quote:ebaea]

The point is to show that we will not let terrorist dictate how we live our lives or build our building.

The 1776 date is more significant to the US because that is the year we declared our independence.
The fact that it took 7 years for England to decide they didnt want to commit the resources to put down the rebellion is an afterthought. We have considered ourselves independent since 1776.

[quote="Captain Wilkins":5003d]IMHO, These new towers look stupid. Not only are they now the #1 Target for Terrorists, but in 10 years, when things looking that abstract are no longer trendy, they'll be seen to be fucking stupid looking.[/quote:5003d]

10 years MAYBE, but in 20 years they will not be seen like that. When the first trade towers went up they recieved HORRIBLE reviews. People HATED THEM. They were considered the sore thumbs of new york. BUT they had a unique character.... they became a defining Icon for New Yorkers. Right up there with the Statue of Liberty. Over time, the public will learn the appreciate such a technological achievement.

If your interested in learning more about the MEMORIAL designs, pick up the latest issue of "ARCHITECTURE" at a magazine store. There is a pretty good article in there about it. The cover has an image of Koolhaas student center on it, but i assure you that it is in there.

hey a building is a building. If it shows the terrorists that they suckI say go for it. AS for the SAMs and AAguns thast a good idea. as for the Auto overide not a good idea. Airports are easy to break into and control towers can be taken over easily.

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":c982e]hey a building is a building. If it shows the terrorists that they suckI say go for it. AS for the SAMs and AAguns thast a good idea. as for the Auto overide not a good idea. Airports are easy to break into and control towers can be taken over easily.[/quote:c982e]

When was the last time an airport was broken into and a control tower was taken over?

Idont know I dont study that shit. But I can almost gaurntee you anyone who wants to do it enough will do it.

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":905b6][quote="Captain Wilkins":905b6]IMHO, These new towers look stupid. Not only are they now the #1 Target for Terrorists, but in 10 years, when things looking that abstract are no longer trendy, they'll be seen to be fucking stupid looking.[/quote:905b6]

10 years MAYBE, but in 20 years they will not be seen like that. When the first trade towers went up they recieved HORRIBLE reviews. People HATED THEM. They were considered the sore thumbs of new york. BUT they had a unique character.... they became a defining Icon for New Yorkers. Right up there with the Statue of Liberty. Over time, the public will learn the appreciate such a technological achievement.

If your interested in learning more about the MEMORIAL designs, pick up the latest issue of "ARCHITECTURE" at a magazine store. There is a pretty good article in there about it. The cover has an image of Koolhaas student center on it, but i assure you that it is in there.[/quote:905b6]

You make quite a few valid point, sir. However, as i said, that was only my humble opinion. No disrespect to the 9/11 victims or anything, but i think these new buildings look too gaudy and abstract, and the architects should have stuck to something similar to the original design. The old WTC made the New York Skyline. It would have been good to see the old girl back there. cool:

also

[quote=Chango]When was the last time an airport was broken into and a control tower was taken over?[/quote:905b6]
When was the last time before 9/11 that a plane was hijacked and deliberately flown into a building? As out-there as the idea of hijacking an airport sounds, anything is possible, as our friend Mr. Atta showed us. annoy:

[quote:a7034]When was the last time before 9/11 that a plane was hijacked and deliberately flown into a building? As out-there as the idea of hijacking an airport sounds, anything is possible, as our friend Mr. Atta showed us.
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well the airport where I live has armed soldier's in it. dont they all now?

well the airport where I live has armed soldier's in it. dont they all now?[/quote:d98ba]
yeah. Armed soldiers can be tasken by surprise by terrorists hiding grenades and guns

ha. eek:

[quote="Captain Wilkins":0ff1e][quote=Chango]When was the last time an airport was broken into and a control tower was taken over?[/quote:0ff1e]
When was the last time before 9/11 that a plane was hijacked and deliberately flown into a building? As out-there as the idea of hijacking an airport sounds, anything is possible, as our friend Mr. Atta showed us. annoy:[/quote:0ff1e]

I never said it was out there, I was questioning why it was easy to break into an airport. It shouldn't be easy at all unless they somehow got the codes to the doors.

Its really interesting that you're obsessed with planes flying into skyscrapers. Do you think that the US should tear down all of them so no one will every fly into one again? rolleyes:

[quote:8b8f4]yeah. Armed soldiers can be tasken by surprise by terrorists hiding grenades and guns
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them damn pesky metal detectors.

Not every plane has over-ride stuff, these terrorist guys have supposably millions of £$ funding so they could buy an old DC-3 or something, mebbe 3 or 4 and whats going to stop them flying into a building? All they really need is a bomb anyway, whose to say they have to use planes? A high ranking police officer from the met police in London summed up the situation quite well imho.

"If there is a terrorist out there who wants to do something and we haven't got any intelligence regarding his plans then his is virtually unstoppable".