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Marcus0 01-24-2002 06:28 AM

The game keeps crashing on me. My system specs are:
Windows 2000 Professional
AMD Tbird 1200 MHz
ATI Radeon 64 MB DDR Video Card
SB Live! Value sound card
512 MB PC-133 SDRAM
ABit KT7A-RAID Motherboard
HP CD Writer, 8x/4x/32x CD ROM
Two 40 Gig hard drives striped with a game partition with 40 gigs drived E:
The game won't even run in safe mode! It will play anywhere from 5 minutes to 25 minutes (longest it has gone so far) and then simply repeat the last game sound a few times (classic freeze sequence), play a windows ding sound, and go black and crash to the desktop after I press Esc a few times. It has even totally messed up my computer requiring a complete manual restart a few times. I've updated all of my drivers, video/sound/motherboard. I've reinstalled DirectX 8.1. I've reinstalled the game about 3 times, and ran Defrag on my partitioned game drive...all to no avail. Please help me, if you require more info please post and I will respond ASAP. Thanks in advance!!

-Marcus


Marstall 01-24-2002 06:40 AM

its your radeon

LithiumTL 01-24-2002 06:42 AM

Do you have all the latest drivers? That might be the issue.


-=Lithium=-

clemato 01-24-2002 07:15 AM

hello, new to this forum...
I got the same prob... game freezes at random points from 1 second into the game, to 10 mins.
The screen would freeze, the sound would repeat itself until the windows program error box pops up and i have to close MOHAA.
System stats:
Windows XP Prof.

MSI K7T Turbo Limited Edition (updated the VIA 4 in 1 drivers for this)

AMD Athlon 1ghz 266 fsb

768 mb pc-133 RAM

6 gig fujitsu HD (windows is installed on thsi drive)

30 gig maxtor HD (MOHAA is installed on this drive, and yes I have tried using MOHAA on the same drive as windows, didnt work.)

Diamond Viper V770 <non-ultra version> (with vrs. 23.11 detonator drivers, and yes ive tried it with the newest ones aswell)

Soundblaster Audigy (newest drivers also)

Pioneer 16x DVD, LG 16x10x40 burner


Any info would be extremely useful, I am at my whits end trying to make this thing work. (the only reason I have not given up on it is because from what I have experienced so far, it looks like an extremely good game)

Thnx, clemato

Arclight 01-24-2002 07:39 AM

Try backing down on the video card driver version --- the latest are not always right for every system.



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all2neat 01-24-2002 08:40 AM

OK, I have
AMD ATHLON 1.2GHz
512MB SDRAM
32MB GeForce 2 GTS
Western Digital 45GB HD
Sound Blaster live X-Gamer 5.1
TDK 16/10/40 CD-RW
Win XP Pro
the game does the same stuff to me. It may either be the athlon chip, or the game just don't like "NT Enviroment" very much

Arclight 01-24-2002 09:28 AM

Are you running NT--read the readme that came with MOH.

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clemato 01-24-2002 09:59 AM

no, I dont belive its the NT environment...
I tried it in windows 98 SE as well, same prob.

Marcus0 01-24-2002 11:05 PM

bump...
I'm not the only one with these probs =/

clemato 01-25-2002 01:00 AM

Arclight,

There are two other people in here with soundblaster Live!, and I have an audigy. But we all experince the same prob. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

Arclight 01-25-2002 05:21 AM

What abt try' a different audio driver?



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quiet 01-25-2002 10:05 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by clemato:
hello, new to this forum...
I got the same prob... game freezes at random points from 1 second into the game, to 10 mins.
The screen would freeze, the sound would repeat itself until the windows program error box pops up and i have to close MOHAA.
System stats:
Windows XP Prof.

MSI K7T Turbo Limited Edition (updated the VIA 4 in 1 drivers for this)

AMD Athlon 1ghz 266 fsb

768 mb pc-133 RAM

6 gig fujitsu HD (windows is installed on thsi drive)

30 gig maxtor HD (MOHAA is installed on this drive, and yes I have tried using MOHAA on the same drive as windows, didnt work.)

Diamond Viper V770 <non-ultra version> (with vrs. 23.11 detonator drivers, and yes ive tried it with the newest ones aswell)

Soundblaster Audigy (newest drivers also)

Pioneer 16x DVD, LG 16x10x40 burner


Any info would be extremely useful, I am at my whits end trying to make this thing work. (the only reason I have not given up on it is because from what I have experienced so far, it looks like an extremely good game)

Thnx, clemato
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same here.. and I have no hardware conflicts, etc. XP Pro.

Arclight 01-25-2002 10:22 AM

Clemato:

Just grabbing at straws--would this make a difference--from the readme file.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

The following sound cards have known problems:
-Diamond Monster Sound MX 400
Requires turning off "DirectSound Acceleration" in the
driver. See the detailed explanation under
"Troubleshooting."
-Creative Labs Audigy
Currently hardware acceleration for this card does not
work correctly.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



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Shamen 01-26-2002 02:22 AM

Same here...

I can play for (guessing) 15-30 minutes and my game will freeze up as well. I can still see people talking and such for a little bit. All the while I get the disconnected icon at the bottom of the screen. Then the entire thing eventually hoses up my system...full reboot.
AMD 1.3ghz Athlon
768mb Ram
64MB 3D Prophet II GTS
SB Live
Win2000

Most excellent game, but this lil issue is quite annoying for me...expecially when I got a bean on someone's head.


Shamen 01-26-2002 02:27 AM

Another thing I have noticed...seems to only happpen to me while playing online. I can't say that I ever recall freezing up in SP.

Bobo54545 01-26-2002 09:55 AM

Same thing happens to me ive tried updating everything even tried formatting still no luck game locks up with the repeated sound and error message like you described.....
specs
Athlon 1.4
768 megs ddr
Geforce 2 pro 64 ddr
running windows 2000

clemato 01-26-2002 10:58 AM

tried all diff. audio drivers made by Creative Labs for the soundblaster audigy
(the ones that came with it on a CD, the first new set of drivers, and the second newest set of drivers).
still no luck.

clemato 01-27-2002 12:10 AM

Well, I belive I found a solution, albeit a strange one...

I got the idea of installing another Quake 3 engine based game, seeing if it would crash like MOHAA. (Return to Castle Wolfenstien.)
This game did not crash, and so in frustration I gave MOHAA one last try. And whadda ya know, no more lockups... well there was one, but I was also fooling around with the video resolution and properties at the time. (and it seems having volumetric fog on also makes the game a tad unstable.)

So my advice is, install a game that uses the Quake 3 engine (preferably Return to Castle Wolfenstien, because it worked for me.) Then install MOHAA, and try to play it (dont alter any video properties, just install and play.) Then once you have established that MOHAA is stable, start tweaking the video properties, if it crashes after a tweak, notch it right back to where it was.

Good luck, and happy hunting!

clemato 01-27-2002 12:46 AM

I belive these crashes have somthing to do with the AMD T-bird/XP processor OR AMD motherboards (I use the VIA KT133A chipset).
I dont know any good reason WHY an AMD processor/motherboard should cause a problem...
Really, im just guessing at this point.
*sigh* I wanna play this damn game, WAHHH!!!

computeruser 01-27-2002 12:55 AM

If that's true we should be looking forward to getting a new patch soon from EA...
I hope somebody important is reading about this

CU

Arclight 01-27-2002 01:08 AM

Have you guys tried this:

1. Uninstall MOH--make sure all folders are gone.

2. Edit the registry and delete all entries relevant to MOH or MOHAA etc.

3. Scan disc, defrag and reinstall MOH.

Also, have you checked your Windows Swap File allocation ?




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computeruser 01-27-2002 03:13 AM

I am not sure why would that help...
I did reinstall MOHAA - I saved the "save" directory only ...
But it did not help.
As far as Swap I have 2 disks - 60g+100g and they both have plenty of room. I defraged them too.
Still nothing....

CU

sgt.sayian 01-27-2002 03:22 AM

I get the same problem now!! I NEVER use to get it

I can play the game for about...40 mins on safemode then it crashes

Towers 01-27-2002 04:51 AM

Ok this is what I have told works. It don't work for me though, but has worked for some people. Search for ffx.dll when found change the name i.e add bad infront of it. then try running it. I hope this works for some people. Let me know of any other soloutions.

Towers 01-27-2002 04:55 AM

Ok this is what I have told works. It don't work for me though, but has worked for some people. Search for ffx.dll when found change the name i.e add bad infront of it. then try running it. I hope this works for some people. Let me know of any other soloutions.

quiet 01-27-2002 05:01 AM

Be sure not to do that 3d positional audio fix that is going around - it'll make your game unstable.

If you want sorta 3D sound use headphones in headphone mode. It sounds better than most 3D sound in other games.

clemato 01-27-2002 05:31 AM

sorry towers, that ffx.dll thing didnt work.

but thnx for the input.

Arclight 01-27-2002 05:44 AM

In this thread--like he said--a lot of AMD's having problems.



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Crow King 01-27-2002 06:03 AM

I have a P4 1.8GHz / 512MB / GeForce3 (not a Ti), SoundBlaster Live / XP Home and I'm having this same issue. Plays for a while, then crash with the audio looping.

Here's a weird one - when I first got the game, it wouldn't run. I had both demos (sp and mp) and they ran fine. I uninstalled MoHAA and both demos, resintalled the full version and tried again. No luck.

Turns out, it was a little thing called CursorXP (a utility to modify cursors in WinXP). For some reason, if CursorXP was running, MoHAA wouldn't even load up. But the demos ran fine with it.

Insanity - the absence of reason.

Crow King

clemato 01-27-2002 09:37 AM

ARH F&*K!
sorry, it still crashes. But not as frequently.

sorry.

EZSniper 01-27-2002 10:05 AM

Waste money, buy a MAC.

computeruser 01-27-2002 10:20 AM

I've been dealing with the same problem for week or two.
System:
amd 1.333 (asus a7m266)
WinXP Pro
512 MB RAM pc2100 ddr
Hercules Geoforce 2 Ultra 64mb
SoundBlster Live MP3
2 HDs (60g+100g)
Tried all nvidia drivers from 21.81 to beta 27.10. I uninstalled ACPI so I can separate IRQs for sound and video. I increased AGP driving all to "F" in BIOS. Changed amd761 to AGP bridging to PCI to PCI bridging. Played MOHAA from safe mode to 1600X1200 with all maxed out... could not find any patern... the game has 1.1 patch installed .
I feel I did all I could on my side - it seems that the game has a bug or I am crazy... It randomly crashes to desktop w/o sound in the loop and WinXP dialog box about sending the problem to Microsoft. Is there a way to log the problem?
Why would it chrash in the safe mode???
BTW WRTC and SS2 run w/o a problem and WRTC is the same Quake 3 engine.
Maybe the problem is not the video - maybe it is the sound - I have the latest driver available
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

CU

clemato 01-28-2002 04:09 AM

Well the only thing thats left now is the audio cards.
Everyone on this list has a Creative Labs Soundblaster card.

... but I still dont understand the method behind the madness. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

[This message has been edited by clemato (edited January 28, 2002).]

computeruser 01-28-2002 05:23 AM

WOW CrowKing is the first one with the Intel CPU...
It is getting very interesting.

CU

jdematt 01-28-2002 06:40 AM

i have a:
Radeon 32mb DDR
AMD Athlon XP 1500 (running at 1333mhz)
256mb RAM
ASUS A7A266 mobo
running Windows XP Pro.
and my game crashes in multiplay all the time.. anyone have any ideas? it seems like alot of athlons and win XP bows are having problems..

Towers 01-28-2002 06:48 AM

i Have a p3
600mhz
320mb
TnT2 card
No sound card.. yet
And this game crashes on me.. I hope this gets fixed as i am doubting wether to get the game when it comes out in england.

[HOLY]Moses 01-28-2002 06:57 AM

I mentioned the sound card suspect in another thread. Y'all have a look see: http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/For.../003646-2.html


requiem 01-28-2002 08:19 AM

Hi Guys

I think the answer to why the game crashes lies in the Readme file. Here are some extracts from the Readme file. I've experimented with the various settings and it now my game doesn't hang. Hope it helps..

- From the Main Menu choose the "Options"
menu signified by some electronic
equipment towards the left side on the
table. Then select the "Video" menu,
select "Texture Detail" and choose "LOW".

- Also from the "Video" menu uncheck
the "WALL DECALS" check box. This will
prevent the game from creating bullet
marks on walls and should improve
performance.

- Try reducing your video resolution to
640x480 or even 512x384 in your "Video"
menu. The lower the resolution,
the easier it is for your computer to run
the game.

- From the "Video" menu you can try lowering
your color depth from 32 to 16 bit.

- Video cards with less than 64MB Video
memory cannot set texture detail to high
and texture color depth to 32 bit
simultaneously. These cards can get very
poor performance at times, so lower your
texture detail and/or lower your texture
depth to 16 bit.

- From the "Advanced" menu under
the "Options" menu try turning
the "SHADOWS" down to "simple"
or "none".

- In Advanced Video Options you can change
your View Model. This allows one to choose
how much of their own player model is
shown.
NONE means player's arm and weapon
will not appear.
GUN ONLY means the gun and not the arms of
Powell will appear.
FULL means that you will see both Lt.
Powell's hands and the weapon he is
holding during gameplay.
The less of Lt. Powell that is showing,
the faster the game should run.

ExtremeChaos 01-28-2002 09:59 AM

Damn!!

Same here,
At Frist i did not have any problem @ 1024x768 with the game(MP), until 2 days laters
i installed the latest
4in1 Drivers(MoBo), and then installing the new 1.10 patch....
Now the game keep crashing(MP)

reintalled windoh 98 1 time
reintalled DX.. (re)old 4in1 Drivers
now with little less crash..

The only thing i could think of is the New Patch...

so, far it crash twice.. went too safe mode
change some settings on the game setting Video
so, far so good...

here r my setting..
800x600
16bit
low
16bit
bilinear
no wall decals
no weather
no Texture Com

hope this help...

i wonder if its the Vcard, but then
again some have no problem/w there GTS 2cards


change your Video Setting on safe mode
see what happening..

maybe its the damn SoundCard..

hope this help..

Rig:
Windoh 98SE
P3 550@733
Asus P3V4X but back(old)4in128v drivers
128mb Mushkin
GTS 2 32mb/w lastest Nvidia Drivers
Xgamer(Live)/w lastest drivers
W.D. 40gig
Maxtor 30gig

[This message has been edited by ExtremeChaos (edited January 29, 2002).]

[This message has been edited by ExtremeChaos (edited January 29, 2002).]

02-22-2002 07:33 AM

Hi Gamers!

I'm a UK PC Engineer who bought MOHAA 2 days ago and, you guessed it, after only a few minutes play, the game locks up with the last sound repeating like a stuck record! Sound familiar?

I have a SB Audigy and solved MY problems by adding the following command line option to the MOHAA shortcut:-

-wavonly

This instructs the Quake3 game engine to disable DirectSound & use windows WAV file output only. I can't hear any difference in sound quality, but my copy of MOHAA now plays like a dream, even at 1280x1024 on my GeForce3 with every detail level turned up full! ;-)

It may impact game performance on lower spec systems, but as long as MOHAA is not crashing, who's complaining? Just compensate by using low quality sound or turning your video detail levels down...

Hope this helps,

HateBall
(Programmers NEED debuggers because they ARE buggers)


PS. For those of you interested...

My System Spec:-
- ASUS A7A266 Motherboard (ALi Magik1 chipset)
- AMD Athlon 1.4 GHz
- 256 Mb PC2100 DDR RAM
- 10 Gb UDMA100 Hard Disk (C http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
- 40 Gb UDMA100 Hard Disk (D http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
- Toshiba 16/48 DVD-ROM
- Teac 12x10x32 CD-Writer
- ELSA Gladiac 920 (GeForce3)
- SB Audigy Player (OEM)
- 2 x 100mm Case Coolers
- Twin fan drive cooler (on 40 Gb drive)

OS/Drivers:-
- Windows 98 SE with IE 6.0
- ALi Magik1 v1.06 chipset drivers
- DirectX 8.1
- NVidia DetonatorXP v21.83 video drivers
- Latest SB Audigy drivers

Optimizations:-
- Cacheman v5.1 (Brilliant! Download it NOW!)
- NVMax v3.00.72b (GeForce series tweaker)



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