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Nyck 02-07-2004 03:34 PM

Homosexuality - Born or Choose?
 
My fiance and I are on different spectrums of this debate

she says gays are born that way

I say that it's their choice to become gay, no one is born gay...

sexual intercourse is designed for a man and woman in my beliefs

It also depends alot on your views of religion etc...

What is your belief and/or feelings?

02-07-2004 03:36 PM

<--chose2bgay

Scalping Chief 02-07-2004 03:36 PM

maybe it was you that said this but

god made adam and eve, not adam and steve

Proteus 02-07-2004 03:37 PM

It's already been genetically proven that gays are born with indifferent chromosomes or some technical shit.

Zap. USMC 02-07-2004 03:41 PM

I say they choose because if they were born "gay" then God and his Holy Bible doesn't exist.

Merlin122 02-07-2004 03:45 PM

wheres the gay blade anyway?

Eight Ace 02-07-2004 03:56 PM

Re: Homosexuality - Born or Choose?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NyckMSS
My fiance and I are on different spectrums of this debate

she says gays are born that way

I say that it's their choice to become gay, no one is born gay...

sexual intercourse is designed for a man and woman in my beliefs

Ya doin' her in teh poop-chute yet...or what...? cool:

Eames 02-07-2004 03:56 PM

they choose to be gay.

Pyro 02-07-2004 03:57 PM

If they were born gay...it would prove the christian religion is wrong in many ways.

I would have to say choose, it's the only logical choice.

Eight Ace 02-07-2004 04:00 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":196f1]they choose to be gay.[/quote:196f1]
That's the same as saying at some time in your life you chose to become
straight, but being gay was an option too....is that how it was?...I doubt it.

Eames 02-07-2004 04:05 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":f58f2][quote="Cpl. Eames":f58f2]they choose to be gay.[/quote:f58f2]
That's the same as saying at some time in your life you chose to become
straight, but being gay was an option too....is that how it was?...I doubt it.[/quote:f58f2]

no...EVERYONE is born strait its natural, people choose to be gay because they can't get pussy or decide they love the cock more, its a decision they choose to make. I mean do you know any gay animals?

General Cobra 02-07-2004 04:06 PM

Choose

Pyro 02-07-2004 04:07 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":8cda6][quote="Eight Ace":8cda6][quote="Cpl. Eames":8cda6]they choose to be gay.[/quote:8cda6]
That's the same as saying at some time in your life you chose to become
straight, but being gay was an option too....is that how it was?...I doubt it.[/quote:8cda6]

no...EVERYONE is born strait its natural, people choose to be gay because they can't get pussy or decide they love the cock more, its a decision they choose to make. I mean do you know any gay animals?[/quote:8cda6]

Well...I think you can't make that assumption.

There are some therorists that say we are born with our mind as a black slate and the shit that happens in our life scopes what we choose to do...our attitudes, our personality, our sexual preferences.

To assume we are all born straight and choose to be gay and not vice versa as well is far fetched.

Eames 02-07-2004 04:10 PM

No, everyone is born strait, like I said...its the naturaly occuring thing. Gay people become gay by their own choices like I've already stated...or by a tramatic expierence in their life like molestation or something.

Pyro 02-07-2004 04:12 PM

You are stating your opinion without any known facts to support them.

geRV 02-07-2004 04:13 PM

Was debating this on another forum, basically some people are born knowing all their lives they are gay. Some guy stated that it seems to be natures solution to stoping overpopulation of the planet. Good point of view imo and it fits in with the born theory.

Eames 02-07-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
You are stating your opinion without any known facts to support them.

And what is everyone else, including you doing...

Pyro 02-07-2004 04:28 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":fd51b]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
You are stating your opinion without any known facts to support them.

And what is everyone else, including you doing...[/quote:fd51b]

I'm saying what I think...you had the notion of telling me yours.

you said like no, they aRe born straight. You are stating a "fact" you won't prove.

Zap. USMC 02-07-2004 04:58 PM

[quote=Pyro]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Cpl. Eames":6826e
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
You are stating your opinion without any known facts to support them.

And what is everyone else, including you doing...

I'm saying what I think...you had the notion of telling me yours.

you said like no, they aRe born straight. You are stating a "fact" you won't prove.[/quote:6826e]

I have a big penis... come over and I'll show you

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SoLiDUS 02-07-2004 05:14 PM

Just as with 'g' (intelligence), there is some genetic basis behind sexual
preference: the rest is determined by the environment in which the man
lives. It's not always a choice: did you choose your skin pigmentation &
sex ? Genetics play a big role in many things you take for granted.

Drew 02-07-2004 05:35 PM

I'm scouring Google right now for an article I read in a scientific journal while I was researching something unrelated for biology. I'll edit it in if I can find it. Anyway:

The article basically reviewed and debated a theory that humans can actually alter their genetic make-up on a very small level. It reviewed a study from John Hopkins that followed a man for something like 8-10 years, with tissue samples being taken regularly. The man grew up in the South and had moved Maryland only a few months earlier. At the end of the study, several aspects of his genetic make-up had had noticeable changes, such as the genetic structure that helps define your personal preference for temperature and another that helps define the tenacity of your immune system.

Anyway, this study would indicate that it is the environment and/or mental state which defines homosexuality, since being born homosexual would be a mutation of nature. Unless someone was born to a person with those altered genes.

This whole thing is still in the theory phase. If I can find it I'll post it. Checking the JHU archives right now.

Fireal 02-07-2004 05:39 PM

Born. They dont just one day go; "I like men" they were gay from the start.
and that adam and eve comment. Is bullshit, just like all religions.

Himmler 02-07-2004 05:45 PM

Gays choose to be gay. Because, I have known some gay guys that have turned straight guys gay. So obviously its a choice. Personally I think gay people should be burned at the stake.

Eight Ace 02-07-2004 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Gays choose to be gay. Because, I have known some gay guys that have turned straight guys gay.
So obviously its a choice. Personally I think gay people should be burned at the stake.

[img]http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/chucktupp/homo.jpg[/img]

Himmler 02-07-2004 05:55 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":6a806]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Gays choose to be gay. Because, I have known some gay guys that have turned straight guys gay.
So obviously its a choice. Personally I think gay people should be burned at the stake.

[img]http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/chucktupp/homo.jpg[/img][/quote:6a806]

imwithstupid: wow. thanks

ninty 02-07-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Gays choose to be gay. Because, I have known some gay guys that have turned straight guys gay. So obviously its a choice. Personally I think gay people should be burned at the stake.

Are any mods reading this stuff? What do we need this guy and others like him around for?

I get banned for spamming emoticons, and these guys make comments like this without punishment.

Eight Ace 02-07-2004 05:56 PM

Hey Himmler...NP GayLord! rock:

Himmler 02-07-2004 05:57 PM

Maybe because I dont flame people? I have all the right to express my opinions without yelling at you.

Himmler 02-07-2004 05:59 PM

Oh yeah and by the way, spamming emoticons is a bigger deal then expressing your opinion considering the fact it takes a long ass time to load, and its pointless.

ninty 02-07-2004 05:59 PM

So it's OK to say "Gay people should be burned at the stake", as long as you don't flame people? oOo:

Go out to the mall, or other public place and express "your" opinion and see how many people agree with your right to "express it".

Eight Ace 02-07-2004 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Maybe because I dont flame people? I have all the right to express my opinions without yelling at you.

Burning people at the stake is flaming as far as I'm concerned. eek:

Himmler 02-07-2004 06:02 PM

Im expessing my opinion, im not flaming anyone here. So if someone came and posted George bush is a fucking idiot, is that considered flaming and worthy of a ban?

Eight Ace 02-07-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Im expessing my opinion, im not flaming anyone here. So if someone came and posted George bush is a fucking idiot,
is that considered flaming and worthy of a ban?

Yes, yes it does....and that's exactly why you don't see Pyro around....hang on...Pyro!! ...you?..here?...whaaa!?... ed:

Himmler 02-07-2004 06:10 PM

Where in the forum rules does it say...

You are not allowed to express your own personal opinions about subjects.?

Eight Ace 02-07-2004 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Where in the forum rules does it say...

You are not allowed to express your own personal opinions about subjects.?

AA.COM Regulations and Bylaws.
Volume IV, Booke XIII, Chaptre III : "From this day forth none shall
express their own personal opinions about subjects, lest they be fully
fucked, flogged and befestooned with maggot of eye and hot-coal of
ring-piece."

Machette 02-07-2004 06:48 PM

[quote="General Cobra":7087d]Choose[/quote:7087d]

02-07-2004 06:53 PM

I always thought that homosexuality was nature's lifeguard on the gene pool (keeps those bad genes from jumping in),
otherwise EVOLUTION would hit a dead end.

Snuff 02-07-2004 07:02 PM

ANOTHER GAY DEBATE sleeping: sleeping:

02-08-2004 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
If they were born gay...it would prove the christian religion is wrong in many ways.

I would have to say choose, it's the only logical choice.

Perhaps if they were born gay, it has something to do with genics. Their parnets had something worng with them, which contriubuted to a chemical inbalance, etc? But then.. what about the gays that turn that way when they are older? Or Biseuxals?

Also, isn't this like the 10th Gay dicussion we've had this month?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
. Personally I think gay people should be burned at the stake

Fucking Nazi.
Isn't that like saying "Personally I think BLACK people should be burned at the stake." Whats the word... predajice? Or soemthing like that.

Arch 02-08-2004 10:13 AM

some born, some choose to be gay, who cares. oOo:


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