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Zen 02-09-2004 12:32 PM

Children & Awareness.
 
I know we have some fathers here , so I thought I would get some perspective on a typical event in our house.

My Children are 4 and 2 , both will have a birthday this summer.

When we sit down to meals , we turn on the TV and watch the news.

My Daughter always asks questions about the stories on the news.
Her mom is a soldier you see , so she knows that moms job is to protect people and sometimes she has to go away to do that.

She asked me yesterday about the little girl that was kidnapped and killed.

I explained that the little girl was taken away by a mean man and that the little girl is gone.


My Mother FREAKED. She said What the HELL are you trying to do to her!!!

I told my mom that it is a true life experiance about strangers.

I believe that what I am doing is the right thing. I do not see the point in lying to my kids about life. There is a very real possibility that one day Mom may not come home.

I think it is important to show my children the world they are in , both good and bad.

I am interested to how other fathers aprouch " Real Life " issues with there children.

I know that there are many teen agers here too , some of whom will undoubtably hate there parents right now. But I am interested in your views as well.

So , What do you guys think?

How should we teach our children the truth about life?

xXiMDisTuRB3DXx 02-09-2004 12:32 PM

How old are you dude lol

I think you're doing the right thing, you need to teach children about strangers and all that crap.

Zen 02-09-2004 12:34 PM

26 , my wife is 23.

She is active AirForce , and I am a US Army vet.

We live in Idaho on an Air Force Base.

xXiMDisTuRB3DXx 02-09-2004 12:35 PM

Wow you must be lucky to live there cuz that'd be cool... So have fun with your life... still teach your children the right things... WHEN THEy ARE OLD ENOUGH

BlackJackal 02-09-2004 12:55 PM

both of my grandfathers were in airforce. one wwii & korea, other Korea homefornt. airforce is in my blood. rock:

Merlin122 02-09-2004 01:34 PM

your best bet is to turn off the TV at dinner. so they cant really know the horrors of the world. the kids i babysit still dont know about the war or september 11

Wilko 02-09-2004 01:35 PM

My Mum just waited until I was about 5 or 6, then told me about these things in a frank, straightforward manner, but i think it depends on the maturity of the children. If they're more mature, they can be told at a younger age, etc.
I don't have children, nor do i plan to in the near future (me = 19, so i consider this to be a wise course of action biggrin: ), But for what it's worth, I would do precisely the same thing if i were raising children. I have an 8 year old sister, and that's pretty much the way i went about explaining to her why she had to watch continual tapes of 'The Simpsons' on September 11, instead of normal tv rolleyes:

Merlin122 02-09-2004 01:45 PM

[quote="Captain Wilkins":36913]My Mum just waited until I was about 5 or 6, then told me about these things in a frank, straightforward manner, but i think it depends on the maturity of the children. If they're more mature, they can be told at a younger age, etc.
I don't have children, nor do i plan to in the near future (me = 19, so i consider this to be a wise course of action biggrin: ), But for what it's worth, I would do precisely the same thing if i were raising children. I have an 8 year old sister, and that's pretty much the way i went about explaining to her why she had to watch continual tapes of 'The Simpsons' on September 11, instead of normal tv rolleyes:[/quote:36913]

i wouldnt mind watching the simpsons over and over oOo:

Zen 02-09-2004 01:59 PM

I understand what you guys are saying , to be sure.

But you see , my wife is Active Duty. She wears a uniform that my children see on there G.I.Joes. They are in a millitary familly.
So I MUST address what that means. Why the Guard at the gates wants to see our IDs , why mom salutes , ect.

To awnser these questions , I told my kids the truth. And gave a general explanation of the Air Force and the Millitary. I also have lots of pictures of myself and our ( my wife and I ) parents in uniform or around millitary things or in uniform.

So I have no option but to tell them about these things.

Now they are very young.....

And I do not want to damage there innocence any more than nessecary.

I don't show them pictures of dead bodies or anything like that ...lol.

But I also want them to understand that the world around them has many problems and many wonders.

I want my children to have a solid understanding of not only themselves but the world they live in. I think this will promote confidence and pride in themselves.

For instance : My Dauther loves Dinosaurs , Astronomy , and the Roman Empire* as much as Barbie , The PowerPuff Girls and French Fries.
She sees the good things on the news as well as the bad. She was actually disapointed about the rover being lost , and showed joy when it was back on-line.

( * The Roman Empire - I have Roman Armor and a Gladius in my house )

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 02-09-2004 02:08 PM

I believe in telling kids the truth, or a simplified version of the truth as you have done. They don't need to understand the whole situation, just the basics & telling her that the little girl is 'gone' is a good example.
Children will eventually find out the truths for themselves at some time, once they watch & understand the news then they will begin to learn. There's no point going into explicit detail because you will probably mess up their head. The first time I realised the world isn't all its cracked up to be was when I was about 15 and read a book about the Vietnam War called Chickenhawk. The author went into some detail on what the VC did to captured pilots...
I also found the site 'Massacres of the Second World War' which was quite interesting.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 02-09-2004 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin122
your best bet is to turn off the TV at dinner. so they cant really know the horrors of the world. the kids i babysit still dont know about the war or september 11

That's wrong imho

Merlin122 02-09-2004 02:12 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":c470f]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin122
your best bet is to turn off the TV at dinner. so they cant really know the horrors of the world. the kids i babysit still dont know about the war or september 11

That's wrong imho[/quote:c470f]

i said something about osama bin laden to their mother and she just shhhhhsed me. so i assume they know nothing of the attacks or war

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 02-09-2004 02:14 PM

How old are they?

Zen 02-09-2004 02:15 PM

That is exactly how my mom is !

Shhhhhh , the KIDS.

Merlin122 02-09-2004 02:18 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":65393]How old are they?[/quote:65393]

4 and 5

Sergeant_Scrotum 02-09-2004 02:19 PM

whats the point of hidding the children from the real world? this is why everyone in the states was freaking over the janet jackson thing. all these people trying to keep their children from know what its really like out there. I belive they should know. I think your doing a perfect job of it by telling them a simplafied version of whats happening. If only more parents were like you.

imported_Fluffy_Bunny 02-09-2004 02:21 PM

hmmmm,

The tape isnt that bad, just see a big plane crash into a tower, don't see any people etc, or I didn't anyway, still, that might make them anxious when it comes to flying. 4 & 5 is pretty young, but I doub't they would fully understand what you were talking about anyway. I remember my dad once told me about currents in the oceans & I was scared to take a bath biggrin:

02-09-2004 04:10 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":86893]hmmmm,

The tape isnt that bad, just see a big plane crash into a tower, don't see any people etc, or I didn't anyway, still, that might make them anxious when it comes to flying. 4 & 5 is pretty young, but I doub't they would fully understand what you were talking about anyway. I remember my dad once told me about currents in the oceans & I was scared to take a bath biggrin:[/quote:86893]

You saw people jumping out of the towers.

Maplegyver 02-09-2004 04:47 PM

dont ya stick it your mouth ,but it might look good to eat, no dont ya put in your mouth
any one remember that commercial?
with the 2 rat/walking shit things singing?

[DAS REICH] Blitz 02-09-2004 06:02 PM

[quote=Merlin122]
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Originally Posted by "Fluffy_Bunny":36a5a
How old are they?

4 and 5[/quote:36a5a]Have they told you to stfu yet?

BlackJackal 02-09-2004 06:03 PM

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BlackJackal 02-09-2004 06:06 PM

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Snuff 02-09-2004 08:23 PM

I think your doing the right thing. You can't protect children from all the bad
in the world, but you can arm them with knowledge so that they can protect
themselves and not be nieve.

Arch 02-09-2004 09:06 PM

Your doing the right thing, just don't show them explicit stuff. Keep it simple. Sooner or later they'll know the full truth.

Judas 02-10-2004 06:50 AM

dont have kids so i cant say. i was raised in a religous type home so you didnt always get the truth ... i would probably do the same thing to protect the innocent ... etc ... too many britney spears and net video girls already. raise them to be 25 when they are 15 in a bad thing imo.

Wilko 02-10-2004 06:56 AM

IMHO, you're going about this right. The kids know enough about what's going on to be considered well informed for their age, but at the same time you're not giving them nightmares about it.

For my mind, you've reached some sort of neutral ground between reality and blissful ignorance that a whole lot of parents wouldn't be able to achieve.

DAMN THE TORPEDOES! GO WITH IT, SAYS I!

Zen 02-10-2004 08:53 AM

** A note to the Spammers : SHOVE OFF Vultures!!!

lol.

Thanks guys ,

I think I am doing the right thing. I mean this is a new world , our children will grow up in a world that was coined by Pink as " World War 3 ".
( Before anyone freaks , I have a 4 year old little girl , do you honestly think I don't have a pink CD? )
They will never know what a world before 9/11 was like.

There is in my opinion a more dangerous world out there than we grew up in , I think it is important to prepare them for that.

Most of us don't live in Pleasentville , so we have a responsibillity to provide our children with as much knowledge and protection as possible.

There have always been issues that parents must work around , to help there children , crime , drugs , sex , ect.

I think to protect our children we must first make them proud to be them , show them the legacy they are from and the promise of the future.

I also think we must arm them with the power of knowledge and understanding. The more they know about a dangerous situation , the easier it will be for them to overcome one.

I have noticed alot of concern about inocence. And should kids know all these bad things.

That is a valid concern , but it is not only the bad that is being discused.

A good example is the Mars Rover , I have a telescope at the house and from time to time we take it out and look at the stars. So they see the stuff on Hubble and the Rover on the news and get exited


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