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03-03-2004 07:23 PM

Question about communism...
 
Why is it that "everyone" (US, Britan, etc.) hates communism?

ToeNail 03-03-2004 07:28 PM

I personally don't hate communism. It's just that I don't think It works.

newt. 03-03-2004 07:33 PM

US is capitalistic and commies arn't oOo:

03-03-2004 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeNail
I personally don't hate communism. It's just that I don't think It works.

Is it working for cuba?

Fireal 03-03-2004 07:33 PM

On paper, communism is just great, but it just doesnt work.

Yell0wcard 03-03-2004 07:35 PM

Communism induces laziness which results in lack of thought which results in lack of achievement.

03-03-2004 07:36 PM

Yes, but why do other goverments hate communism?

Neo Nazi Hitler 03-03-2004 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireal
On paper, communism is just great, but it just doesnt work.

exactly. Everyone would have to think the exact same way for evryone to be happy. And that just won't happen.

MrLevinstein 03-03-2004 07:36 PM

Its not the Idea of hating communist. its the Use of communism as a crutch that allows tyrannical rulers to come to power. Thats why communism is most often hated and associated with evil and evil ways.

And not only that people dont like having to have the same everything as everyone around them. What is there to work for. So people stop working hard and the country stops producing. usually resulting in chaotic streets which are often combated by over autoritarian rule where people are rounded up and shot in the streets to be made examples of.

ToeNail 03-03-2004 07:38 PM

Yes, like I've been always told, for example...
Some guy works his ass off all day and then there's this other guy who just sits there jerkin himself off. Now...who deserves deserves more food, supplies etc???

Yell0wcard 03-03-2004 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ToeNail
Yes, like I've been always told, for example...
Some guy works his ass off all day and then there's this other guy who just sits there jerkin himself off. Now...who deserves deserves more food, supplies etc???

Well the hard working dude deserves more food and crap but the other dude i would say would deserve more hand lotion to increase his arm strength.

03-03-2004 07:53 PM

I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

Machette 03-03-2004 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yell0wcard
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToeNail
Yes, like I've been always told, for example...
Some guy works his ass off all day and then there's this other guy who just sits there jerkin himself off. Now...who deserves deserves more food, supplies etc???

Well the hard working dude deserves more food and crap but the other dude i would say would deserve more hand lotion to increase his arm strength.

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Madmartagen 03-03-2004 08:06 PM

I dont hate communism, its just that its leaders are corrupted by their absolute power. In theory, communism sounds nice, but would never work because humans are, in nature, greedy. Personally, I think capitalism is much better than communism regardless because I believe you have to work for what you get. If on the other hand, I see my neighbor struggling to survive I would of course, help him. But I dont like people telling me what to do, let alone share my things with. Communism isnt laziness, its just too idealistic in my opinion..

Colonel 03-03-2004 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Quze
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Originally Posted by ToeNail
I personally don't hate communism. It's just that I don't think It works.

Is it working for cuba?

No.

Eames 03-03-2004 09:57 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":353fe]I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.[/quote:353fe]

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Pyro 03-03-2004 09:59 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":4aaa1][quote="Sgt Stryker":4aaa1]I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.[/quote:4aaa1]

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:4aaa1]

religion is the real root of all evil.

Azazel. 03-03-2004 10:02 PM

In my opinion , it's about Freedom.

A communist government does not allow for indivuism and basic freedom.


As a supporter of freedom , I understand why people would " Hate " communism.

SoLiDUS 03-04-2004 04:43 AM

“FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY, TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED.”

Close enough... let's re-arrange it a bit:

“FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY, TO EACH REGARDLESS OF HIS NEED."

The productivity falls on the same few's shoulders and they have to give
away the fruits of their labor ? No.

mwah:

Sgt>Stackem 03-04-2004 08:09 AM

perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Zoner 03-04-2004 08:12 AM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":57b6d]perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work[/quote:57b6d]

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.

pest 03-04-2004 08:47 AM

True communism has never been implemented on a national scale.

Every attemp has degraded into a socialist dictatorship at best.

Plato's Republic had it best, IMO. The leaders have no possessions. They live communally and their needs (and little more) are provided by the state. Their only luxury is the ability to rule. Remove the ability to gain financially from the rulers and their decisions are less clouded.

Tystnad 03-04-2004 08:49 AM

[quote=Eames]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":c1df3
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:c1df3]

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:

Colonel 03-04-2004 10:27 AM

[quote=Zoner]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":3dcee
perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.[/quote:3dcee]

I disagree. It licks ass on paper, in practice, and as an idea.

Duke_of_Ray 03-04-2004 10:29 AM

When you do not have freedom, it will not work.

bukdez 03-04-2004 10:40 AM

[quote=Pyro][quote="Cpl. Eames":f220b]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":f220b
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:f220b]

religion is the real root of all evil.[/quote:f220b]

amen...

Zoner 03-04-2004 10:49 AM

[quote=Colonel]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":782de
perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.

I disagree. It licks ass on paper, in practice, and as an idea.[/quote:782de]

Point taken. biggrin:

Drew 03-04-2004 11:14 AM

[quote=Tystnad]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":f8171
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:[/quote:f8171]

God knows that I don't want to defend Eames, but I just have to correct this statement.

According to Marx, the only way to achieve "true" communism is through revolution of the lower classes.

Tystnad 03-04-2004 11:24 AM

[quote=Noctis]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tystnad
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":87d3a
I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:

God knows that I don't want to defend Eames, but I just have to correct this statement.

According to Marx, the only way to achieve "true" communism is through revolution of the lower classes.[/quote:87d3a]

Which is not to be taken litterarly. What he is saying is that the lower classes should not longer be lower classes, but the walls between the classes shall be removed, and a society of equality will form in time..

Pyro 03-04-2004 11:26 AM

fuck america got demorcracy through revolution...everything needs a fucking revolution.

pest 03-04-2004 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noctis

God knows that I don't want to defend Eames, but I just have to correct this statement.

According to Marx, the only way to achieve "true" communism is through revolution of the lower classes.

Marx's teaching (more like rants) were all very time and location specific, can easily be taken out of context and dont hold up to the test of time. The basic principles are more long lived. He wanted the "revolution" in france, but found a more receptive audience in russia.

Bleuachdu 03-04-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
fuck america

Freud was right.

Neo Nazi Hitler 03-04-2004 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleuachdu
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
fuck america

Freud was right.

Uhm.. I think he only missed the comma after the fuck...moron.

Bleuachdu 03-04-2004 02:11 PM

you.
fucking.
twit.

that was my point

Colonel 03-04-2004 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
america got demorcracy through revolution...everything needs a f*****g revolution.

You say you want a revolution, well you know, we all want to change the world. rock:

Pyro 03-04-2004 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleuachdu
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
fuck america

Freud was right.

I never said that :S

I guess I needed a comma between the two words or something.

Why edit my post?

Bleuachdu 03-05-2004 06:44 AM

does anybody know what a freudian slip is? oOo:

Zoner 03-05-2004 07:14 AM

Yes.

Zone = psychology major

A Freudian Slip is where you inadvertently say something that you were thinking, which sheds light upon what you actually feel toward a certain subject or person.

Example, Clark Griswold in "Christmas Vacation" when he's in the department store with the beautiful sales clerk, looking at lingerie.

"It's a bit nipply outside."

Nyck 03-05-2004 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Yes.

Zone = psychology major

A Freudian Slip is where you inadvertently say something that you were thinking, which sheds light upon what you actually feel toward a certain subject or person.

Example, Clark Griswold in "Christmas Vacation" when he's in the department store with the beautiful sales clerk, looking at lingerie.

"It's a bit nipply outside."

Or that Time I was at work and this smokin blonde came in and I walked up to her and was going to say "Hi, Can i help you find anything today" but I said "OMFG YOU ARE TEH SECKSAY!...Buttsecks PLZ"

I said it just like that cool:
Her clothes practically exploded off of her body

"Tis the season to be merry"
"well thats my name!"
"No shit?"

LOL rock: rock:

Zoner 03-05-2004 07:18 AM

Yep. Happens all the time, dude. biggrin:

Wife: Could you pass the salt, honey?
Husband: YOU'VE RUINED MY FUCKING LIFE, YOU HARPY!! Oop...Freudian slip...


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