Seriously. F00k Guns.
 

Guns Guns Guns. Seriously what reason does any one person need a automatic weapon for, let alone a fucking silencer for it.... Any ways to get on topic I go to school in the middle of no where butt fuck Caledon East Ontario. Now guns shouldnt be a problem out here but it seems they are... Some Kid came to school yesterday with a fucking hand gun with a silencer on it. He planned on using it on another student in order to kill him over drugs/ ome other lame gangster wannabe shit. Yay !. Now thankfully the kid was cought before he got to use it but the thing is he was only stoped because he showed it to a couple friends on the way to school earlier that morning and one of those freinds told another freind and that person told a couple teachers etc. They also grabbed off him some other shit coke and some buddah (Weed). Those are common though in our school,A Gun on the other hand is not. This isn't some inner city school this is a Suburb Canadian hick school. Now how did this kid even get a hand gun ? Simple American gun companies are importing more knock off's and real versions over the border illegally. Toronto is starting to have gang problems to the point where the city had to call in gang specialists from LA ffs. Canada is going to turn into a shit hole if this all continues. This is a big shock considering the school I go to. oOo:

-Just want to know if anyone else is having gun problems or any thing like that at their schools ?

After seeing Dawn of the Dead, I don't think guns are a bad idea. happy:

Shooting someone solves problems

but creates bigger ones oOo:

You shoot them too.

When I was in elementary school, 3rd grade, we had show and tell, and the theme for the week was to bring something that relates to your dad because it was fathers day week, so this kids dad works in the military and this kid, brings to show and tell a pistol!!! And this isnt any pistol it was one of those military pistols, I was too young to know what kind and I dont really remember, but its in his backpack and after lucnh we have recess inside cause it was raining or something, and some girl runs into the backpack racks and some how the trigger gets pulled and a little boy named Kody who was like my best friend gets shot in the arm!!!
None of us knew what happened and I was playing some card game with Kody and we all get up and run in the hall, the teacher called police and the whole school went through a lockdown and my class was running around the halls with the doors locked and sirens everywere, I was scared shitless, I remember me and my other friend who is somewhat large run into the janitors closet and start crying and my friend gets sick on me and it was such cramped in the closet with my big friend that it just got all over us and we couldnt get it off....that was really scary, but other then that throughout my middle and high school life the worst thats happened is a lot of drugs.

Oh, and my Kody friend moved to a different district afraid to come back to school and that was the last time I ever saw him, I still remember the blood that got all over the cards...I thought it was my own since I was so close...

Yes guns are bad, we need to outlaw them. If we outlawed no bad person would ever get one, I mean they could never get a silencer! It would be just like how outlawing drugs works, oh wait........ oOo:

I'm not sure how long ago, less than like 10 years. Maybe 6-7 years ago. Some kid brought a gun to school and shot a peer. The blood got on a teacher's face, etc. I forget what happened after that, I think he comitted suicide. Real traumatizing shit. I wasn't there so.. heh. Drugs are a problem in my school though too. I tell you, some kids are real jackasses. Shorthand, man, thank god that kid didn't get to use that pistol..fuckin a.

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":25d5f]When I was in elementary school, 3rd grade, we had show and tell, and the theme for the week was to bring something that relates to your dad because it was fathers day week, so this kids dad works in the military and this kid, brings to show and tell a pistol!!! And this isnt any pistol it was one of those military pistols, I was too young to know what kind and I dont really remember, but its in his backpack and after lucnh we have recess inside cause it was raining or something, and some girl runs into the backpack racks and some how the trigger gets pulled and a little boy named Kody who was like my best friend gets shot in the arm!!!
None of us knew what happened and I was playing some card game with Kody and we all get up and run in the hall, the teacher called police and the whole school went through a lockdown and my class was running around the halls with the doors locked and sirens everywere, I was scared shitless, I remember me and my other friend who is somewhat large run into the janitors closet and start crying and my friend gets sick on me and it was such cramped in the closet with my big friend that it just got all over us and we couldnt get it off....that was really scary, but other then that throughout my middle and high school life the worst thats happened is a lot of drugs.

Oh, and my Kody friend moved to a different district afraid to come back to school and that was the last time I ever saw him, I still remember the blood that got all over the cards...I thought it was my own since I was so close...[/quote:25d5f]
only in texas

You can outlaw things all you want, but there will always be a demand for them regardless. If you have a demand, then you have a black market. If you outlaw guns and a black market developes, then the only people who will have guns will be criminals. If only criminals have guns, how are you supposed to defend yourself. We live in a world of kidnappings, home invasions, drugs, rapists, and serial killers. Its better to be safe than sorry. The only other alternative I can see is active gun control, and more stringent background checks. I dont see any problems with law biding citizens owning firearms.

if canada declares war on the black market.
they would be able to kill the suppliers

Its almost impossible to 'kill' the black market. Look at the drug problem going on everywhere.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":3d704]Yes guns are bad, we need to outlaw them. If we outlawed no bad person would ever get one, I mean they could never get a silencer! It would be just like how outlawing drugs works, oh wait........ oOo:[/quote:3d704]

I never said outlaw them all. Seriously though I can understand a rifle for hunting but who the fuck needs a tech 9 or a OoZie ?

Ill play with my guns if I want.

Tech 9's and Uzis are illegal, so what would outlawing normal guns do?

all automated weapons are outlawed for normal citezens.

Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.... eek: .

[quote="Eight Ace":b3e57]Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.... eek: .[/quote:b3e57]


or if you're like eames.

"Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do."

Dumbshit. I still hope some sharps beat the hell out of you, lol.

Chris Rock- "Bullets should cost five thousand dollars. Then if someone got shot, it would be for a really good reason. And you would know who did it since they would go up to you and say, 'can I have my bullet back'" now that is a good idea.

then why do you need a m16 ? i have seen plenty of gun owners put them on show. What kind of hunter hunts with an M - 16 ? The point is the more attainable you make them the more people will get their hands on them. Weren't the Columbine shootings done with a Tech 9 as well ?

[quote="Short Hand":9b04c]then why do you need a m16 ? i have seen plenty of gun owners put them on show. What kind of hunter hunts with an M - 16 ? The point is the more attainable you make them the more people will get their hands on them. Weren't the Columbine shootings done with a Tech 9 as well ?[/quote:9b04c]

Could put a 10 round clip on it for hunting. Anywyas guns like the Ar-15,SKS, and Ak-47 are fun for target shooting.

[quote="Duke_of_Ray":4f60a][quote="Short Hand":4f60a]then why do you need a m16 ? i have seen plenty of gun owners put them on show. What kind of hunter hunts with an M - 16 ? The point is the more attainable you make them the more people will get their hands on them. Weren't the Columbine shootings done with a Tech 9 as well ?[/quote:4f60a]

Could put a 10 round clip on it for hunting. Anywyas guns like the Ar-15,SKS, and Ak-47 are fun for target shooting.[/quote:4f60a]
why buy one then?
go to a shooting range and rent the one there

hell yea, I've got an SKS, one of the funnest guns I have ever had. The ammo's preatty cheap ($2.50 a box) so, it is great just to go shoot. And, People use guns like m-16's, ak's, and sks's for varmit control, such as coyotes, ferral hogs, and other pests. Banning these guns would only keep them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. And guns deffinetly don't kill people. If you took a stack of 1000 rifles and piled them up in the middle of a park, and if no one messed with them, would anybody ever get hurt?

[quote="Pick Axe":33cad]hell yea, I've got an SKS, one of the funnest guns I have ever had. The ammo's preatty cheap ($2.50 a box) so, it is great just to go shoot. And, People use guns like m-16's, ak's, and sks's for varmit control, such as coyotes, ferral hogs, and other pests. Banning these guns would only keep them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. And guns deffinetly don't kill people. If you took a stack of 1000 rifles and piled them up in the middle of a park, and if no one messed with them, would anybody ever get hurt?[/quote:33cad]
your stupid

[quote=maple][quote="Duke_of_Ray":949ce]Could put a 10 round clip on it for hunting. Anywyas guns like the Ar-15,SKS, and Ak-47 are fun for target shooting.[/quote:949ce]
why buy one then?
go to a shooting range and rent the one there[/quote:949ce]

There is also a certian passion for colectors. And the target shooting I do is ussually not at paper targets. It's a lot more fun to go shoot things like sacks of flower, coke bottles, stuff that you can tear up.

[quote="Pick Axe":cad3c][quote=maple][quote="Duke_of_Ray":cad3c]Could put a 10 round clip on it for hunting. Anywyas guns like the Ar-15,SKS, and Ak-47 are fun for target shooting.[/quote:cad3c]
why buy one then?
go to a shooting range and rent the one there[/quote:cad3c]
then remove the hammer

There is also a certian passion for colectors. And the target shooting I do is ussually not at paper targets. It's a lot more fun to go shoot things like sacks of flower, coke bottles, stuff that you can tear up.[/quote:cad3c]

[quote=maple]your stupid[/quote:6f559]

How's that? Because I like shooting my rifle?

[quote="Pick Axe":ea9f9][quote=maple][quote="Duke_of_Ray":ea9f9]Could put a 10 round clip on it for hunting. Anywyas guns like the Ar-15,SKS, and Ak-47 are fun for target shooting.[/quote:ea9f9]
why buy one then?
go to a shooting range and rent the one there[/quote:ea9f9]


There is also a certian passion for colectors. And the target shooting I do is ussually not at paper targets. It's a lot more fun to go shoot things like sacks of flower, coke bottles, stuff that you can tear up.[/quote:ea9f9]
then remove the hammer

Well, An M-16 doesn't have one. And I have every right to shoot a gun in a safe way.

[quote="Pick Axe":948b9]Well, An M-16 doesn't have one. And I have every right to shoot a gun in a safe way.[/quote:948b9]
in a controled area ya just curious how does an m16 work?

[quote=maple]in a controled area ya just curious how does an m16 work?[/quote:c944f]

Gas blowback, the energy from the bullet being launched allows the gun to reciprocate and load the next round.

Why is he dumb? Because we have guns? Wow pretty ignorant. Mind your own fucking business up there. Well play with our guns and you guys can watch trailor park boys.

Well, here you go:

[quote:935c1]When the pin hits the round, it ignites the powder inside the round. This explosion creates the gas pressure needed to push the bullet down and out the barrel at an extremely high velocity. A hole, called a gas port, is located within the barrel for the purpose of allowing some expanding gas to flow through the slot and ram a piston-like device back against the bolt. This action pushes the bolt behind the magazine and accomplishes two desired results: first, it extracts the used round by a process that unlocks the casing from the bolt, then expels the casing out of the ejection port. Second, as the gas escapes, the bolt slides back and picks up another round. The process occurs within a split second and repeats until the last round of the magazine is used. The barrel is lined with rifling, or a twisted scoring down the barrel, which puts a spin on the bullet when it exits the barrel. This improves the accuracy of the round and is comparable to the spiral that a quarterback puts on a football.[/quote:935c1]

found at [url:935c1]http://engrwp.usc.edu/illumin/article.php?articleID=65&page=3[/url:935c1]

Here is a parts diagram for ya.

[img]http://www.fulton-armory.com/main.gif[/img]

[quote="Pick Axe":93d1d]Well, An M-16 doesn't have one. And I have every right to shoot a gun in a safe way.[/quote:93d1d]

That was written onto the American constitution in a time when the people could keep the government in tact if they went sour. I don't think a civillian uprising with weapons would do much against a M1 Abrams or an Apache nowadays. Its outdated. Hense no need for it. Gun toting fanatics don't go crazy on me but doesn't the M 16 like the AK 47 run on a piston ?. Why not just take that out ? I have no problem with collecting guns if they are neutrlized. Guns and People kill people. You can't just blameo ne or the other.

[quote="Short Hand":3bd18][quote="Pick Axe":3bd18]Well, An M-16 doesn't have one. And I have every right to shoot a gun in a safe way.[/quote:3bd18]

That was written onto the American constitution in a time when the people could keep the government in tact if they went sour. I don't think a civillian uprising with weapons would do much against a M1 Abrams or an Apache nowadays. Its outdated. Hense no need for it. Gun toting fanatics don't go crazy on me but doesn't the M 16 like the AK 47 run on a piston ?. Why not just take that out ? I have no problem with collecting guns if they are neutrlized. Guns and People kill people. You can't just blameo ne or the other.[/quote:3bd18]

1st off you dont have a clue

2nd I doubt if it ever came to it and we crazy Americans decided it was time to overthrow our govt that the soldiers (who are our sons,daughters brothers and sisters) would fire upon American people

3rd Lawful guns are used for just that, lawful purposes

4th I will enable myself to protect myself and family from thugs

5th you said the "American" gun companies were importing guns into Canada- well that is just non sense. Criminals are importing the guns and they are from manufactures all over the world, not just the US

6th It is sad that that kind of violence happened at your school

guns always get the blame when it is the people behind them that cause the problem. i know you will say "well if there wernt any guns then this wouldnt happen" that arguement doesnt hold water. It would be the same as saying if you outlawed cars that would stop drunk driving


flame away!!!!! hellfire:

Guns are bad. Mmmkay

I have nothing against hunting if the kill is used for food
...I just don't know how you guys can eat so much groundhog.

[quote:7f3fc]4th I will enable myself to protect myself and family from thugs [/quote:7f3fc]

Your more likely to kill a family member then a so called thug. Its a fact.


[quote:7f3fc]5th you said the "American" gun companies were importing guns into Canada- well that is just non sense. Criminals are importing the guns and they are from manufactures all over the world, not just the US [/quote:7f3fc]

Most of these street weapon showing up in Toronto are American made. Almost all of them buddy.

[quote:7f3fc]2nd I doubt if it ever came to it and we crazy Americans decided it was time to overthrow our govt that the soldiers (who are our sons,daughters brothers and sisters) would fire upon American people [/quote:7f3fc]

Exactly what I was trying to say. The idea is obserd. Why is that right put on your fucking constitution. ? Law wasn't as organized back then and out in the west or out on your farm you needed a gun to survive. They had no idea that weapons of such destruction such as a, automatic weapon firing 9mm death would come about. (Tech 9) It was made in a different time for different situations. Times have changed so have guns. They are more lethal and not a neccasry thing for your average city slicker family. Recreational use for hunting is fine but why should hunting we a potenial weapon to kill someone or being able to buy an m-16 or Tech 9 be a right ? Why the fuck do you need that kind of right ? Amend your constitution and get this over with. You don't need the weapon and if you want to show it off then make sure it can't fire. If you really need to unleash an automatic weapon the join the Army, they have lots !. Almost all 1st World Nation have already seen the obvious flaw in letting citizens have automatic weapons and have taken this insane so called right away.

[quote:7f3fc]3rd Lawful guns are used for just that, lawful purposes[/quote:7f3fc]

-The guns bought for columbine were lawful.

-Andrew golden and his Friend used lawful guns to use fellow students as target practice after they pulled the fire alarm.

The fact is these events most likely either wouldn't have happned or would not have been as severe as they wre if such weapon were banned.

[quote:7f3fc]6th It is sad that that kind of violence happened at your school
[/quote:7f3fc]
Ya it is sad. But if you had strickter gu laws in America then it would never have happned. ome kid would never have almost ave been killed. Which he could have. Life takes priority over a falty right.


-Then their is the arguement that the black market will get those guns into the US and their is no hope in fighting them because no matter what they will win..... LOet look at Canada until recently Automatic weapon working and ready to kill with Amunition were next to impossible to find. The weapons that were around for gangs to use were baseball batts machettes, No gang shootings gang fatalities were almost non existent etc. The fact is they had no guns.


This is logic not some exteme left view. The fact is most gun toting People don't want to give their guns up just because they are theirs. They go fanatical and turn it into the issue as if your trying to take a real right from them. A gun isn't a right, Its a Priveledge. Automatic weapons aren't needed at all.

Gun maniacs flare away.

I've never even been hunting, dude. I use my guns for target practice. So if you count bags of flour as "game", i guess I have. I also want them around in case some bastard tries to hurt my family or break into our property. I'm not a fanatic. My, and the extreme majority of all gun-owners, uses for guns are completely safe, legitimate, LEGAL, and (the reason I do it) it's FUN. And, the 2nd admendment is not there to give us grounds for attacking our government. It is made to allow us to have state mallitias and a armed population in case of an attack by an outside force. I know that is unlikely, but, like I said, there are other reasons I own guns.

At my school...last year i guess, the cops busted in guns blazing into my history class & tossed a kid on the floor. ends up he said he was gonna shoot everyone & suposidtly had a gun in his gitar case. anyways i was stuck in my history class for the entire day. school was locked down & they searched every locker. this kid screwed up in the same way. told some kids he had a gun & they told the cops.

[quote="Short Hand":523a1]. Automatic weapons aren't needed at all.

Gun maniacs flare away.[/quote:523a1]

Never said they were. I don't own one, and don't plan too.