This Is Not a War on Islam
 

...but it is.

And I couldn't be any less grateful for it.

The media seems to be pushing a new wave of tolerance for Islam, but I ask each and every one of you why?

Why should we tolerate a religion that demands its people to kill the innocent?

Why should we tolerate a religious movement that is modeled after that of a serial murderer/rapist and the pioneer of modern slave trade?

Why should we tolerate a group of people who want so desperately to see nothing more than the literal genocide of our people and culture that they are willing to sacrafice not only their owns lives, but to send four-year olds strapped with bombs to do the same?

And the greatest thing is, the anti-Americans will just assume that America is pissing off the Muslims and that is what this is about. But if you believe that, you're just as much an ignorant fucking sap as you normally sound in your posts.

Islam has been warring on ALL of Western Civilization (which is fucking everyone not Muslim) since the Mesopotamian age before they were united by a religion. Arab raiders, jealous of the marginally more productive lands of the Hebrew, have hated our people for thousands upon thousands of years.

The Crusades began to stop an all-out invasion by Arabs - united now by a man calling himself the Son of God, mocking the Hebrew who claimed the same before him in an ethnic power-play to gain the trust and fervor of the Arab people by mocking the Savior of the people they hated so much.

Today, the Muslims hate everyone. To them, the United States is a relatively new enemy. Maybe we get all the media coverage, but terrorists are still killing people in Europe everyday. And as much as you prissy liberal fucks would love to believe it, it isn't all America's fault. They've hated you for thousands of years longer than us.

It's time the lot of you open your eyes and learn some things. Read the Quran, as I have. Educate yourself on their culture and their teachings. Read the textbooks they give to their children in elementary school. Read their poetry and their newspaper editorials. These are not a peaceful people.

These are a people bred and raised for war. From the earliest age, they are indoctrined to not only believe Western culture is evil, but to hate it and will the death of it's people and mechanisms. These people follow the example of a man who was a pirate, a slave trader, a murderer and a rapist of innocent women and children. These people are bound by their religion to long for the death of anyone who refuses to accept Islam.

Yet so many prissy Liberals will tell you that Islam is peaceful and accepting, that I am ignorant and know nothing of what I speak.

I know nothing? Then why - after my Islamic Studies professor (with his doctorate and an active Muslim) tried to sell me the same bullshit peaceful line - was my professor unable to refute my argument after I quoted several Jihadic scriptures proving it? Why was he so embarassed that he yelled, "I will not have some child attempt to make a mockery of my religion!" and stormed out of the class? I'll tell you why, because he thought he had us all snowed by conveniently skirting certain passages and omitting key phrases. Even dicking around with the translations. But when it came down to it, and I called him on it, he knew I was right. Which is why he stomped out of the class like a little bitch.

Why am I posting this? I don't know, I like flames maybe. Or maybe it's because I'm sick of being told what I should and should not be tolerant of. If people can't be tolerant of a prayer to my God before a football game, why should I be tolerant of some fuckass who stands before hundreds of people in a Mosque every week and screams for the deaths of my friends, my sister, my brother, my parents and everyone else I know and care for, just because they refuse to follow the nihilistic rantings of a diluted pirate.

Fuck Islam and fuck everyone who supports it. I, for one, support the pre-emptive genocide of the crazy fucks before they manage to claw out of their shithole countries and do something serious.

So bring your knife and try to "cut the throat" of this "infidel," Mohammed. I've got a Glock G23 .45 calibur handgun that says otherwise, bitch.

You think way too much about this stuff man. Do you do any journalism or creative writing in any newspapers? or just policallyincorrect.com stuff?

I wish I had time to do something with my site, but I don't.

If you know a newspaper/publication with the balls to be edgy on the side of political incorrectness, rather than Rolling Stones-ish liberal pussy farting, let me know. I'd love to at least read, if not write for, it.

I declare myself neutral in this,.

fox news?

Im with Noc.

WEve gotten to the points where we forgive people who fuck with us, in a stupid attempt to sleep at night. People cant even hate anymore, people cant even feel wronged.

noctis is entitled to his opinion as much as me or the rest of us here.

O'Reilly aside, even Fox News seems to be playing center/left lately.

I'm sitting here listening to Kerry spew his shit on Hannity and Colmes right now.

As history proves, you can't win them all. America seems to be into the more liberal thinking these days. After all, america is mostly about innovation and change. Good luck finding a conservative periodical.

This subject has caused me to have more arguments with people I like on these boards than
anything else, however, even if I had never heard of the Middle East, but had based my opinion
purely on my own observations of the criminal behaviour, anti-social pack mentality and mind-
boggling hypocrisy of muslims here in Sydney...I would still agree with Noctis on all points,
I feel this way about no other group, religion or race.

I think we should just get all the extremists who actually take these evil ideas to practice. Not everyone who is Islamic hates America, but i do beleive the majority does. Take care of the problem after i die cause i dont wanna be in no WWIII. oOo:

There is this 7 year old Muslim child that lives down my street. He's never wanted to kill me. And I'm a white, presbeteryian (or something)

Maybe he is just being nice so that one day he will slit my throat when im not looking. (Like you said in one of your other anti-islam rants. "Every Islamict person is just waiting to slit your throat."

You act as if a few Islamic followers repersent 100% of them.

Re: This Is Not a War on Islam
 

Noctis relax dude its just the internet its not like 3rd world country people have the internet, or a computer...well maybe one of those old IBM's who knows or cares.

Right now i could give 2 shits about this mess. Terrorism hasn't been in my country for quite some time, and it will stay like that.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: we either take care of them now or
let the brutes use our technology on us. It won't be pretty, but something
needs to be done. Religion has been a thorn in humanity's side for far too
long: misunderstanding and intolerance will be our downfall.

Edit:

Notice that while technology improves, wisdom remains the same. In other
words, we're children playing with increasingly sophisticated and dangerous
toys: it's only a matter of time, I'm afraid...

To quote myself, since you failed to do so correctly:

http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/vie ... lim#538947

As I've said a thousand times, Jihad is a pillar of Islamic faith. The entire Islamic religion was born of and based on the life of Muhammed, which was spent waging wars, pirating, pillaging, raping and murdering. What he later called Jihad. Any Muslim who proclaims to not believe in Jihad is not a true Muslim. Any Muslim who does has to be willing to kill you. That's the cold, hard facts. Learn em.

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Re: This Is Not a War on Islam
 

I was going to reply to this, but it so depresses my outlook on the current state of humanity that I can't even bring myself to retort.

noctis, i think you may be going a little too far with this one. You are looking at it in a biased way. You'd have to know what their culture and upbringings are about. They have been taught Islam and they have so much faith in their religion that they are willing to "go to war" with people that oppose their culture and beliefs. On your side of things, you've been taught Christian values (I'm guessing). Why is their religion any different from yours in a sense of carrying out their requirements?


I'm just trying to get people to see what they're coming from. They feel the same way about us...."kill the infadels". We think, "Kill the barbarians". Just a thought...

You had two rants in the past about it. You said something similar to what I qutoed.

What do you purpose?

We get ride of all religions? Even Christanity? Or just kill all the people from the middle-east?

Btw, Notics - Have you lived in a Islamict country at all? Seen their cultuire first hand, beside what you have read, or seen on TV?

I agree with Garry, also.

[quote="Garry Coleman":a2eda]noctis, i think you may be going a little too far with this one. You are looking at it in a biased way. You'd have to know what their culture and upbringings are about. They have been taught Islam and they have so much faith in their religion that they are willing to "go to war" with people that oppose their culture and beliefs. On your side of things, you've been taught Christian values (I'm guessing). Why is their religion any different from yours in a sense of carrying out their requirements?


I'm just trying to get people to see what they're coming from. They feel the same way about us...."kill the infadels". We think, "Kill the barbarians". Just a thought...[/quote:a2eda]


im concerned about you.

[quote="Garry Coleman":08a29] They feel the same way about us...."kill the infadels". We think, "Kill the barbarians". Just a thought...[/quote:08a29]


That has got to be the smartest thought about this whole situation yet.

I don't know if you can say "who is right" in this war. I don't think the Americans are the good guys or the bad guys. Same with the arabs. Don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-war...i'm very pro war. I just think the war will not be won by the good guy or bad guy; it will be won by the 'better' side (for lack of better words)

This is just going to turn into another America vs. Islam vs World thread.

Noc what about Saladin ? he was a genral and all but a peaceful and enlightned man. When he took Jeruselum he made sure no buildings including christian churchesc were harmed. He was the very definition of civil. Hell the europenas were more brutal to him. He gave captured european soldiers water food etc. Maybe its not the faith maybe we drove the faith into what disgusting state it is now.

[quote=Judas]
im concerned about you.[/quote:68e28]fuck, i'm not trying to be Anti-American, pro-Islam, Pro-arab. I'm just trying to lay out the facts. I just hate it when people make stupid narrowminded judgements

It needs to be brought to an end by the Iraqis themselves...I think its great that the US, etc are doing to help them get things in some sort of 'order' if you want to call it that...but it cannot be won by an 'outside force'...having us there to help raise a worthy police force makes a lot of sense...and of course, we will have hardships, etc etc...but it must be the 'home team' to bring things to an end...

Saladin was civilized.

exactly. We'll have to eventually leave the country. Only God knows how long that'll be. But, who are we kidding? When we win, what happens to the country? They will hopefully be more of a stabalized government set up so they could work independently. It's not like we'll be making it a territory of the US. I think it's out duty to try to keep the world out of harms way from asshole terrorists. It's always been like that....#1 country will always police the world.

[quote="Garry Coleman":cd5fe]exactly. We'll have to eventually leave the country. Only God knows how long that'll be. But, who are we kidding? When we win, what happens to the country? They will hopefully be more of a stabalized government set up so they could work independently. It's not like we'll be making it a territory of the US. I think it's out duty to try to keep the world out of harms way from asshole terrorists. It's always been like that....#1 country will always police the world.[/quote:cd5fe]

Amen dude. My thoughts exactly.

Gary

There is a difference between:

"[...] I say to you, love your enemies [...]"

and

"When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them, besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. [...]"

Short Hand

An excellent point, and as it illustrates, there is an exception to every rule. The point that I am trying to make, however, is that Islam is inherent Anti-Western and young children are taught to hate the culture and be prepared to sacrafice their lives if it means the death of an infidel.

Quze

Being as you have never had any sort of informed post in a similar thread, please feel free to leave yourself out of this one.

Saladin = Da Man.

well, who are you to say that Christianity is right? That's my point. There is no "one and only proven religion". Until something is drastically discovered about the Earth's history, I doubt religious wars will end.

But why do you think "peace" is right? Look at the Vikings. They fucking raped everyone and looted. Who were to say that they were wrong? It is just a biased decision when you say someone is "wrong". I don't think there is a nuetral standpoint here...no matter what we say, we'll be biased.

To tell you the truth, ever since the fucking Seljuk's destroyed the Royal family of Saladin and destryoed the Christian States in The Holy Land Islam hasn't been what it used to be and isn't what it "could be"

[quote="Garry Coleman":4c169]well, who are you to say that Christianity is right? That's my point. There is no "one and only proven religion". Until something is drastically discovered about the Earth's history, I doubt religious wars will end.

But why do you think "peace" is right? Look at the Vikings. They fucking raped everyone and looted. Who were to say that they were wrong? It is just a biased decision when you say someone is "wrong". I don't think there is a nuetral standpoint here...no matter what we say, we'll be biased.[/quote:4c169]

In making that statement, you are basically shunning the pillars of human morality. I mean, I think that we all can agree that murdering someone is not the right thing to do. You're trying to broaden the scope beyond what is relevant.

[quote=Noctis]In making that statement, you are basically shunning the pillars of human morality. I mean, I think that we all can agree that murdering someone is not the right thing to do. You're trying to broaden the scope beyond what is relevant.[/quote:de129]ok, let's get down to business then. Right and wrong are determined by laws. Correct? There are specific rules that lay out how to do a specific task. In the eyes of the Muslims, they are right because they are following their written rules correctly. So, technically they are right.


"When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them, besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. [...]"

Where have i seen that before? ^

[quote="Garry Coleman":4c627]noctis, i think you may be going a little too far with this one. You are looking at it in a biased way. You'd have to know what their culture and upbringings are about. They have been taught Islam and they have so much faith in their religion that they are willing to "go to war" with people that oppose their culture and beliefs. On your side of things, you've been taught Christian values (I'm guessing). Why is their religion any different from yours in a sense of carrying out their requirements?


I'm just trying to get people to see what they're coming from. They feel the same way about us...."kill the infadels". We think, "Kill the barbarians". Just a thought...[/quote:4c627]

stop trying to act like you know something, no where in the bible does it say "kill the barbarians". no where in the new testament the basis of the christian religon does it state to use any type of violence on anyone. i know your thinking "the old testament is quite violent" the old testament is the basis of judiasm which does preach that non jews or "gentiles" are inferior and speaks of many archaic rules and practices that in the new testament are refuted by jesus. most religons are peaceful, the only exceptions would be the jews and the muslims, islam being the more violently militant of the two.

[quote=Eames]stop trying to act like you know something, no where in the bible does it say "kill the barbarians". no where in the new testament the basis of the christian religon does it state to use any type of violence on anyone. i know your thinking "the old testament is quite violent" the old testament is the basis of judiasm which does preach that non jews or "gentiles" are inferior and speaks of many archaic rules and practices that in the new testament are refuted by jesus. most religons are peaceful, the only exceptions would be the jews and the muslims, islam being the more violently militant of the two.[/quote:7f336]actually, i wasn't even talking about religion at that moment. We as a nation are not all Christians, therefore, i was not refering to our opinion of killing the barbarians to be christian. That was more of a statement from our democratic society. calmdown:

Are you seriously entertaining the idea that murder could be considered
good ? Only under a seriously twisted morality, perhaps. How could men
and the society they are a part of function properly if they could take lives
whenever they so pleased ? You can use no force against an other, unless
in retaliation and only to the extent that the threat has been repelled.

Following the golden rule is actually quite simple.

[quote="Garry Coleman":410d0][quote=Eames]stop trying to act like you know something, no where in the bible does it say "kill the barbarians". no where in the new testament the basis of the christian religon does it state to use any type of violence on anyone. i know your thinking "the old testament is quite violent" the old testament is the basis of judiasm which does preach that non jews or "gentiles" are inferior and speaks of many archaic rules and practices that in the new testament are refuted by jesus. most religons are peaceful, the only exceptions would be the jews and the muslims, islam being the more violently militant of the two.[/quote:410d0]actually, i wasn't even talking about religion at that moment. We as a nation are not all Christians, therefore, i was not refering to our opinion of killing the barbarians to be christian. That was more of a statement from our democratic society. calmdown:[/quote:410d0]

before you made your barbarian comment you were talking about whats the difference between a christian carrying out its requirments and a muslim carrying out his requirments, i think noctis pretty much summed it up...christ spoke of forgivness and mercy while mohammed spole of rape, pillage, plunder and war...islam is basicly 7th century arabian culture turned into a religon....islam can not function in the modern world, its followers are still living in 7th century arabia. its why most muslims who find sucess in the west usually drop islam because they realize its complete bull shit.

[quote=Eames][quote="Garry Coleman":2e3aa]actually, i wasn't even talking about religion at that moment. We as a nation are not all Christians, therefore, i was not refering to our opinion of killing the barbarians to be christian. That was more of a statement from our democratic society. calmdown:[/quote:2e3aa]

before you made your barbarian comment you were talking about whats the difference between a christian carrying out its requirments and a muslim carrying out his requirments, i think noctis pretty much summed it up...christ spoke of forgivness and mercy while mohammed spole of rape, pillage, plunder and war...islam is basicly 7th century arabian culture turned into a religon....islam can not function in the modern world, its followers are still living in 7th century arabia. its why most muslims who find sucess in the west usually drop islam because they realize its complete bull shit.[/quote:2e3aa]Sorry if my post was a little confusing with my wording. i don't know about them finding sucess because they think Islam is bullshit--I disagree with that statement. I just can't really explain why. Maybe that's just personal opinion.