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no Pvt.Caparzo
Upham heard the fighting going on and he didn't do anything because he was scared. Upham killed willy because capt.miller was shot by him. I don't even think upham was ment for war, he was just a translator with NO war experience. But alot of soldiers that went over didn;t have experience either but upham was with a GOOD ranger group that was doing a "STOP ROMEL's first wave of guys" wich isn't really what they were doing but ended up doing it. |
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dasher:
Lorenz Watch the film again.Willie and the SS soldier that killed Mellish are not 1 in the same.Willie couldn't kill a fly unless he was in a group of soldiers,Willie had no guts.After the SS soldier killed Mellish he walks right past Upham on the steps and Upham is shaking in his boots. In the final closing scenes at the bridge when Upham is in the ditch and the german soldiers rush to the edge of the bridge he notices Willie and see Willie shoots Tom hanks character,then the p-51's start bombing destroying the Tiger tank,the German soldiers start running away in fear.Upham stands up and captures the group with willie with them and he shoots willie. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> its the same guy he just might look different when he killed mellish because of his facial expressions. If it wasn't him he would have killed Upham too. ------------------ http://mors.123hostnow.com/image/lorenz(1).jpg |
Easy solution...can someone who has the movie please just watch the friggin credits. Put this chit to rest once and for all. I still think he's the same guy http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Now that i think about it i don't think the guy who stabbed the other guy was the guy that upham let go. he didn't kill upham on the stairs because there are rules to war. Even the germans had rules. upham wasn't instigating anything and took his hands off his gun and therefore the german did not shoot him. Now did upham see steamboat willy shoot captain miller? casue if he didn't then he would have no reaon to shoot himif he didn't see that. So if he ddin't see that, then the guy who stabbed the guy upstairs must be willy.
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Ok morons http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif here s a few dvd grabs, it is NOT the same fukin guy simple as that.
"steamboat willie" http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald....-surrender.jpg again steamboat willie http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/willie.jpg The ss guy that stabbed mellish http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/killer.jpg There ya go its plainly obvious its NOT the same person. people seem to think its the same guy because of the haircut and so forth. |
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! LOOK AT THE FACES!!!! NEIN!!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KangSa
The uni can't really mean anything, don't forget even the Allied exchanged their unis several times for various reasons, weather mostly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> So your saying Steamboat Willie changed from a wehrmacht uniform to a SS uniform to kill Mellish, then back to a wehrmacht uniform to shoot Miller? Its not the same guy. You dont seem to get that Steamboat Willie was at Ramelle, as indicated by the part where he is shot by Upham, but he did NOT stab Mellish. The uniforms are the givaway. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Clever...But if you actually think about it it's not the case. Why did Upham at the end shot that specific German but let go the others? Because he saw how he stabbed Mllish and shot the other Americans without mercy, and he also regret of letting him loose when they had a chance to shoot him. Conclusion: So the message the movie's trying to tell us is 'take no prisoners, shoot or get shot at' <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Upham shot Steamboat Willie because Upham saw Willie, and the other solders, taking shots at the US solders on the other side of the bridge. Then when Upham tried to take them prisioner, Willie tried to reason with Upham again to get Upham to let him go again. Upham realised that he was just going to go back and fight them as soon as he was free so Upham shot him. Thank you Gerard for the proof. =) ------------------ http://dba.gamepoint.net/images/ekim.jpg [This message has been edited by ekim (edited January 27, 2002).] [This message has been edited by ekim (edited January 27, 2002).] |
thank you Gerard...finally the people who insist it was the same will wake up. I was gonna try to do screencaps as well to proove it.
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Are you guys retarded? why are we even having this conversation, did you even see the movie? The guy that stabbed melish didn't look anything like the guy at the radar station who shot miller at the end. WTF is wrong with you people?
The guy that stabbed melish was really big guy with a DIFFERENT FACE and uniform, the guy who shot miller/radar station was a skinny guy who looked totally different... wtf? How is this even a topic for discussion... |
Alright, you know when Cpt. Miller and his company are at the radar field? And you know that German that they captured...ya know, the one who was saying "I love America, Fuck Hitler...Fuck Hitler"...well, was that the same guy who ends up slowly stabbing the guy at the end? My friend tells me its the same guy, but Im not too sure on that...
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Ahhh, thanks Gerard, guys look up if you missed it.
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Cool I'm glad this is finally to rest. I believed he was the same guy but now that I've seen the screens I know. But to say they don't look anything alike is ridiculous. I just thought they were the same guys for the fact that he didn't kill umpham going down the stairs because he owed him that. It would have made a lot more sense for them to be the same guys, but oh well!! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
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yes it is
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Acually, its not the same guy. Steamboat Willie, as the German solder can be called, is part of the wehrmacht. He does get picked up by the germans and shoved back into service, and was at Ramelle, as is shown when Upham and Steamboat Willie run into each other at the end and Upham shoots him. Now, Mellish is stabbed by solder from the Waffen SS (I belive, it was some SS division). Not the same guy.
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I also tought that Steamboat Willie was the one that stabbed Mellish.
In fact i still think he is the one. Maybe that is a little mistake made in the movie.(Cant believe it!!!) Steamboat willie is an Wehrmacht soldier. How can it be that he is the one stabbing Melish in a SS uniform???? I am 100% sure that Willie is the one stabbing!!!!! |
Are you sure? Then why didn't he kill the interpreter when he walked by him down the stairs? I always thought he let the interpreter live cuz he owed him from earlier. I always thought it was the same guy. guess i was wrong... http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif
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its the same guy...the guy probably just got promoted or soemthin
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It most definately is NOT the same guy...
Steamboat Willie: The guy who shoots Captain Miller on the bridge, and then, in turn is shot by Uphem... Other dude: Kills Melish then just dissapears... Willie has a more rounded face, the other is more hard edged... |
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Von Paulus:
It most definately is NOT the same guy... Steamboat Willie: The guy who shoots Captain Miller on the bridge, and then, in turn is shot by Uphem... Other dude: Kills Melish then just dissapears... Willie has a more rounded face, the other is more hard edged...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yup Von Paulis is correct, i'd stake my life on it, watch the ending and you'll see Steamboat Willie plug Cpt Miller when he is crawling towards the detonator on the far side of the bridge. ------------------ http://dba.gamepoint.net/images/MOHsig4.jpg Lady Astor: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee." Winston Churchill: "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it." |
i thought it was the same guy too, but it isn't..the uniform is a dead give away..
the kraut they let go was a wermacht..they guy that stabbed mellish was an SS.. on his way down the stairs the SS dude does not kill upham, because 1) he was crying and 2)upham takes his hand off his gun.. now the guy that shoots miller IS the guy they let go..but not the same guy that killed mellish..just check his uniform...you can see his uniform is different also when upham ends up shooting him in the end... unless of course, he killed mellish in his SS uniform..then changed back into his wermacht uniform.. they're actually two different guys..its pretty confusing though..but hey, so was the whole damn war right? |
This question is answered by Steven himself. Yes it's the same guy. The uni can't really mean anything, don't forget even the Allied exchanged their unis several times for various reasons, weather mostly.
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And come on, are you guys that...Dumb?! If you have SPR on VCD/DVD watch it now and hear what that SS German guy said before he got shot by Upham. Well what did he say with a grin (fake) on his face? "UPHAM" it is. How the heck does he know Upham's name? Answer: They met at the radar sandbag place where he was forced to dug a hole!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pvt.Caparzo:
i thought it was the same guy too, but it isn't..the uniform is a dead give away.. the kraut they let go was a wermacht..they guy that stabbed mellish was an SS.. on his way down the stairs the SS dude does not kill upham, because 1) he was crying and 2)upham takes his hand off his gun.. now the guy that shoots miller IS the guy they let go..but not the same guy that killed mellish..just check his uniform...you can see his uniform is different also when upham ends up shooting him in the end... unless of course, he killed mellish in his SS uniform..then changed back into his wermacht uniform.. they're actually two different guys..its pretty confusing though..but hey, so was the whole damn war right?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Clever...But if you actually think about it it's not the case. Why did Upham at the end shot that specific German but let go the others? Because he saw how he stabbed Mllish and shot the other Americans without mercy, and he also regret of letting him loose when they had a chance to shoot him. Conclusion: So the message the movie's trying to tell us is 'take no prisoners, shoot or get shot at' ------------------ http://www.tr1gun.homestead.com/files/kangsa.jpg |
There the same guy.. why ?
1 : upham is the guy, who took care of it, that they dint shoot steamboot willie, its upham to thank that he still lives, and it was upham who saw him as a humanbeing (giving him water, sigarets etc) unlike the rest of the squad who just wanted to kill hem, now after steamboot stabs mellish, he doesnt kill upham because upham saved his life before when he was captured, and it was upham to thank that they let him go, NOW at the end the reason that upham STILL shoots willie, is because he was sick of himself and sees clearly he was WRONG about to let him go in the first place, and NOT saving melish, so as soon as willie say's to upham : upham you remember me (or something like that) he thinks to himself : it was wrong letting you go, it believed in you, i tought you was different then the others, that you dint believed in this war like i did, that you really hated hitler, that you would surrender, but instead of that, you used me. and then he shots him sorry of my crappy english :-) but this is my reason why i think there the same guy |
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I've seen people argue that they are not the same person because at the radar station Steamboat Willie was not wearing a helmet...
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Steamboat Willy and the guy that stabbed Mellish ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE! they don't even look alike...they wear different uniforms and their faces look completely different. you can even tell when Steamboat Willy see's Upham, he says "Upham" like he's almost surprised to see him...if Willy had just seen Upham on the stairs, why would he be acting like that? but back to the face thing. Willy's face looks a lot more sharp and is kinda the face that all Americans learned to hate during World War II. you know, the kinda guy that looks like a rat. the guy that stabbed Mellish had a rounded face and was completely different from the American view of a German soldier. they werent trying to make him a bad guy like they were with Steamboat Willy. ok, that's kinda confusing...but still
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Yea I was confused just like some of you are/were, its not the same guy. I have the DVD and looked at thier faces and its 2 totally different ppl. If you go back and watch the part where Steamboat shoots Miller you see Upham see it and thats what makes him shoot him at the end. I wish I had a DVD rom and Could cap the guys faces so you all can see, but I only have a set-top DVD, heh plus Im at work.
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Sorry to be like this but:
JUST LOOK AT THEIR FUCKING FACES!! THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE! |
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KangSa:
This question is answered by Steven himself. Yes it's the same guy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>where does Steven (I assume you mean Spielberg) say this?? ------------------ go hossy..go hossy, go! http://www.kkln.com/syphix/hossysig1.jpg _sig to be modified_//_ |
ok...this may sound weird...but...compare throats on the two germans.....'melish killer' doesnt have the same throate as steamboat.....willy has a rather large adams apple...and 'melish killer' doesnt...and plus.....there faces look nothing alike... http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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jesus u morons are dumb. same dude, same face, same actor. just use ur eyes dumb asses....
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Dice Real mature!!!!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Sorry to be like this JUST LOOK AT THEIR FUCKING FACE THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> When you grow up alittle and can respond in a Mature way come back and join us! You think using little words is so big of you,Give me a Break! And Freaklion it is 2 different guys,Steamboat and the guy that kills Mellish are not 1 in the same. ------------------ You feel like dying today don't ya?! http://www.btinternet.com/~p.webber1...ohclanlogo.gif http://www.btinternet.com/~p.webber1/sigjg3.gif [This message has been edited by Dasher (edited January 27, 2002).] |
you've gotta be kidding me....go watch the movie again and THEN tell me what you think....
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I'm sorry if the "F" word is not one you like to use but it is great for emphasis at times. The guys are different people.... just look at their FACES!!
No fuck did I say fuck in that post? I sure as hell fucking didnt. Im a good person. I dont use the "F" word in inappropriate places unless for comedic effect so buzz off... |
Dice
Comedic spot get real.well it wasn't a comedic response.you could have said simply,"Hey bud there not the same ".But no you had use caps and the "F" word insinuating that your the smart 1.Well you just prove to everyone here that your not! And you just keep going and going and going!bout the "F" word. ------------------ You feel like dying today don't ya?! http://www.btinternet.com/~p.webber1...ohclanlogo.gif http://www.btinternet.com/~p.webber1/sigjg3.gif |
If your notice when they enter then town, and caparzo gets sniped? and theres the French guy with his family and he wants them to take the children, wellI think thats "steamboart willy" look at him, all they had to do was cut his hair and make it look grey
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I did it because if you had read every single post before you would notice and it is a method by which i advocate my belief...total certainty that they are not the same fucking PERSON.
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LMAO Dice
Yes I understand the topic is and was being beaten to death but using swear words to get your point across just show you have no argument! You have no comeback with what I have to say so you pick on a state! hehehehehe now that's funny! ------------------ You feel like dying today don't ya?! http://www.btinternet.com/~p.webber1...ohclanlogo.gif http://www.btinternet.com/~p.webber1/sigjg3.gif |
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