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Himmler 06-05-2004 06:31 PM

Good enough?
 
AMD FX-53
Radeon x800 XT Platinum Edition
2 Gigs PC3200 RAM
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS High Definition 7.1 Surround

Thats bout it...I am probably going to be gettin a system like that within a month...
Do you guys think all that will run HL2/Doom3/+all other modern games comin out soon?

Akuma 06-05-2004 06:41 PM

Only get 1GB of RAM. 2GB is worthless for now.

Machette 06-05-2004 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akuma
Only get 1GB of RAM. 2GB is worthless for now.


Mr.Buttocks 06-05-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Good enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
AMD FX-53

How much are you paying for that?

I'd say you'd be getting better value for money buying an Athlon 64 3200 or 3400.

JBird 06-06-2004 12:31 AM

well, i would advise against 64 bit amd. i got the a64 3200+ and i am currently having massive compatiblity problems with all kinds of applications. mostly gaming. i have the asus k8v deluxe mobo and a gig of corsair xms ddr 400. your better going with the xp 3200 man , seriously. the amount of money you will save by getting the xp chip outwieghs the slight increase of performance the fx would get you. xp3200 is like 200, the fx is like 700+? ed: and ya 1gig of ram is fine right now.


p.s. unless your uber rich . then you can forget what i said biggrin:

TonyMontana 06-06-2004 12:48 AM

what exactly are you gonna use that beast for? CoD? lol gotta have 1000 fps

[GDC]_Polemarcus 06-06-2004 12:49 AM

64 BIT will run fine as long as you upgrade to windows 64 bit workstation OS. Otherwise your not even really utilizing the processing power you paid for. As far as the 1 GB ram... I will disagree. Go with the 2 GB if you can afford it. Especially if you ever do an advanced large photoshop stuff or any video editing. 2GB ram will produce real time previews through Adobe After Effects w/ no problems. As far as gaming, you will not notice a difference on the current games on the market.

SoLiDUS 06-06-2004 01:52 AM

64-bit XP and drivers are NOT optimized. Do NOT upgrade to it...

However, when it IS optimized, you will be happy to have purchased that
64 bit processor. I don't recommend anything higher than Athlon 64 3400,
9800XT and 1GB Corsair CL2 timing RAM... as more means overkill and
little in the way of extra BANG for the expensive hardware purchased. If
you have difficulty running HL2 and DOOM3 with an A64 3000+, 9800 Pro,
1GB Corsair and associated hardware, it's either your software configuration
or the programmers are retarded and did NOT optimize their code.

strvs 06-06-2004 02:01 AM

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Mr.Buttocks 06-06-2004 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by strvs
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cmelton 06-06-2004 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
64-bit XP and drivers are NOT optimized. Do NOT upgrade to it...

However, when it IS optimized, you will be happy to have purchased that
64 bit processor. I don't recommend anything higher than Athlon 64 3400,
9800XT and 1GB Corsair CL2 timing RAM... as more means overkill and
little in the way of extra BANG for the expensive hardware purchased. If
you have difficulty running HL2 and DOOM3 with an A64 3000+, 9800 Pro,
1GB Corsair and associated hardware, it's either your software configuration
or the programmers are retarded and did NOT optimize their code.

Ram timings don't made any difference on Athlon 64 processors?




[quote:96aab]AMD FX-53
Radeon x800 XT Platinum Edition
2 Gigs PC3200 RAM
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS High Definition 7.1 Surround

Thats bout it...I am probably going to be gettin a system like that within a month...
Do you guys think all that will run HL2/Doom3/+all other modern games comin out soon?
[/quote:96aab]




WTF would you upgrade to? I feel dumber for reading this question.

Tystnad 06-06-2004 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmelton

[quote:77efc]AMD FX-53
Radeon x800 XT Platinum Edition
2 Gigs PC3200 RAM
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS High Definition 7.1 Surround

Thats bout it...I am probably going to be gettin a system like that within a month...
Do you guys think all that will run HL2/Doom3/+all other modern games comin out soon?




WTF would you upgrade to? I feel dumber for reading this question.[/quote:77efc]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
I am probably going to be gettin a system like that within a month...

oOo:

Himmler 06-06-2004 10:43 PM

Well, I have about a $3,500 spending allowance for this system, so I probably will be buying all of that. The thing is, I do not want a system for the games out now. I want a system that will run games for the next year and farther away.

Polemarcus -
What is the windows 64 bit workstation OS? A new OS coming out soon, or is it already available?

I have heard, that the FX is way better than the 3200+, and the 3400+. I will definatly be getting the FX.

Machette 06-06-2004 10:51 PM

I'm guessing your uber rich?

Himmler 06-06-2004 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
I'm guessing your uber rich?

No not really, mah dad is buying it, pretty much my straight A graduation present. I am also paying about $1000 for it.

SoLiDUS 06-06-2004 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someone
Ram timings don't made any difference on Athlon 64 processors?

The most compatible RAM for A64's is Corsair/Kingston low latency chips.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Well, I have about a $3,500 spending allowance for this system, so I probably will be buying all of that. The thing is, I do not want a system for the games out now. I want a system that will run games for the next year and farther away.

Polemarcus -
What is the windows 64 bit workstation OS? A new OS coming out soon, or is it already available?

I have heard, that the FX is way better than the 3200+, and the 3400+. I will definatly be getting the FX.

You should consult benchmarks before commiting to an FX... as the results
are nowhere near as impressive as you think. The performance difference is
minor between 3200, 3400 and FX series CPUs: about the only task you'd
want the FX for relates to encoding, such as video making and MP3 encoding.
Otherwise, those processors are a waste of money.

The Windows XP 64bit OS is already available (albeit in a beta format) but
heed my warning: drivers and applications are NOT yet fully optimized so if
you decide to upgrade to it, you're bound to encounter a lot of problems. I
highly recommend a standard 32-bit XP Pro OS...

In the end, it's your decision... and money.

Machette 06-07-2004 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
I'm guessing your uber rich?

No not really, mah dad is buying it, pretty much my straight A graduation present. I am also paying about $1000 for it.

yeah but you must be uber rich, your upgrading your pc when you just had it since november not even a year old... happy:

Himmler 06-07-2004 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Quote:

Originally Posted by Machette
I'm guessing your uber rich?

No not really, mah dad is buying it, pretty much my straight A graduation present. I am also paying about $1000 for it.

yeah but you must be uber rich, your upgrading your pc when you just had it since november not even a year old... happy:

Since when I have only had this PC since November? I have had this PC around 2 years now. I have upgraded it multiple times, but now I just want to get a new one because I keep running into small problems that annoy me, I am going to buy one from a company instead of build it myself like I did with this one.

Machette 06-07-2004 03:12 AM

guess I'm a noob...read that you had it since november aint gonna argue with you..you're a good guy happy:

SoLiDUS 06-07-2004 03:26 AM

Well, if you're going to burn away your money, you might as well purchase an ALIENWARE. mwah:

Fireal 06-07-2004 02:06 PM

Tell your dad, that you want him to send 4 thousand dollars to this Address


14839 Tivoli Street NE
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87111

Himmler 06-07-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireal
Tell your dad, that you want him to send 4 thousand dollars to this Address


14839 Tivoli Street NE
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87111

Right....

Solidus, I added up all the seperate parts that I would have to buy if I wanted what I want to get..it came out about $300 cheaper. But with the Alienware I get my 3 year warrenty which is the $300. So it basically comes out to the same price.

BlackJackal 06-07-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireal
Tell your dad, that you want him to send 4 thousand dollars to this Address


14839 Tivoli Street NE
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87111

if you want, i could send you a bomb, then you could either open it up, or sell it oOo:

Pyro 06-07-2004 04:27 PM

i'd rather spend the money on booze.

SoLiDUS 06-07-2004 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Solidus, I added up all the seperate parts that I would have to buy if I wanted what I want to get..it came out about $300 cheaper. But with the Alienware I get my 3 year warrenty which is the $300. So it basically comes out to the same price.

... in which case you need to start looking a little more. ;-)

You can do it! rock:

MotoxXx 06-07-2004 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Solidus, I added up all the seperate parts that I would have to buy if I wanted what I want to get..it came out about $300 cheaper. But with the Alienware I get my 3 year warrenty which is the $300. So it basically comes out to the same price.

But also if you purchase the parts from newegg.com you can purchase a year extra warranty ontop of what comes from the Mfg. It costs anywhere from 2-15 bucks more and really can make a difference.

Himmler 06-08-2004 12:51 AM

Main reason I dont want to buid another is because I am sick of having to worry about everything, like did I get the right part for this...and some of the problems I have had in the past with hardware and software. I just want a pro built pc. That so hard to ask? =\

SoLiDUS 06-08-2004 02:30 AM

Learning to do things by and for yourself can prove quite beneficial in the
long run... ;)

Himmler 06-08-2004 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Learning to do things by and for yourself can prove quite beneficial in the
long run... ;)

I already know how to do it, I just dont want to lol. biggrin:
Has anyone here ever tried to put liquid cooling in a pc? Its probably one of the hardest things you could do to a PC.

SoLiDUS 06-08-2004 04:29 PM

I just shoved the PC in a running mini-fridge: simpler and works about as well. happy:

Himmler 06-08-2004 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
I just shoved the PC in a running mini-fridge: simpler and works about as well. happy:

Hahah, I dont have a mini fridge =(

Machette 06-08-2004 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Learning to do things by and for yourself can prove quite beneficial in the
long run... ;)

I already know how to do it, I just dont want to lol. biggrin:
Has anyone here ever tried to put liquid cooling in a pc? Its probably one of the hardest things you could do to a PC.

I thought you had water cooling? oOo:


Anyways I've had mine since september and loving it happy:

http://ktog.net/upload/My_Compue232r.JPG

Don't mind the girly pics with cars, still have an interest in lowrider cars oOo: thats my old room, live in a new house now biggrin:

geRV 06-08-2004 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmler
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
I just shoved the PC in a running mini-fridge: simpler and works about as well. happy:

Hahah, I dont have a mini fridge =(

Condensation would fuck it anyway

ed:

Theres a vid here showing a watercooling setup

http://www.tomshardware.com/images/thg_ ... nglish.zip

Info on it here

http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20020701/index.html

Maplegyver 06-08-2004 05:20 PM

leave it open

MotoxXx 06-08-2004 05:27 PM

They had a case in MaximumPC magazine which had a cooling unit to a fridge.. It ran at -21C which is like what? 12F ??

geRV 06-08-2004 05:28 PM

Vapochill case more than likely, they run at around -30 or so.

Machette 06-08-2004 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Vapochill case more than likely, they run at around -30 or so.

yeah and they can leave a big fooking dent in your pocket oOo:

geRV 06-08-2004 05:48 PM

ya, theyre about £500, or $1000 in canadian$. Bit fucking extreme for a bit more of an overlock, then again we have people using dry ice and liquid nitrogen just to get a higher score in 3d mark soooooooo......















oOo:

Machette 06-08-2004 06:29 PM

liquid nitrogen eek:

elstatec 06-08-2004 06:31 PM

banana freezing


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