Yes....
The most important date of WW2 was Pearl Harbor.So...Why dont we have a Pearl Harbor Mission????Pearl Harbor was the most important fight....it started America's War..

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The Medal of Honor series of games have thus far only focused on the 1943-45 North Africa and Western Europe theater of Operations.

Either someone will creat a Pacific theater of War modification for this game, or there will be a Medal of Honor Pacific Assault game created.

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Yeah that'll be fun a level where we run around trying to avoid bombing and strafing runs by Japanese planes. Sweet

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A Glutton For Punishment?

Accusing someone of war crimes during war is like handing out speeding tickets during the Indy 500.

But a Pacific Theater MOHAA mod or add-on would be cool though.

here ya go punk... http://www.cnd.org/NJMassacre/page1.html

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stony:
Accusing someone of war crimes during war is like handing out speeding tickets during the Indy 500.

But a Pacific Theater MOHAA mod or add-on would be cool though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

not at all. i just hate japs... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Awetopsy:
How racist are you, Freakaloin? http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/icons/icon25.gif

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Japan wasnt aiming for the people in pearl harbor, only the ships. The bombs those days and now wouldnt hit the target directly. So it wasnt a war crime. The bombings now in afganistan hit some innocent people, the bombs miss it target thats all, so it wasnt a war crime.

And USA did a big war crime, a nuke at a city(would be fun at a large army).

Dont hate man, I like those japanese people.

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If i go to Japan, i be getting a girl like this.

And if you want to kill those japs, get the flag patch and put the axis on the Japan flag. And i think pretty soon the game will put them on, with the famous battle of taking the airfield.

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hey freak, ahh, that site, who killed those people? The japanese empire right?

Did u know that japanese soldiers during WWII were cannibals? Not kidding. i saw it on the history channel. The emperor made it a rule that u could eat enemy soldiers but not soldiers on ur own side. What a bunch of freaks. damn. But im seriously not kidding.

Unfortunatley, we may never see Medal of Honor: Pacific, because it would offend Japan -largest video game maker- and would be considered racist. Why? because you will have white people killing non-white people, and you cant do that because white people are bad, and non-whites are all good(sarcasim). I mean, what the Nazi's did was terrible, but Japananese were much, much more savage - massive systematic rapes, beheading, sliting of throats of over 3 million chinese! Anyone could shoot a gun and kill someone, especially during a war, but to grab someone, rape them, and cut their throat, feeling the victim shake, is absolute barbarianism. Mind you, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but letting people know that Japan were just as brutal as the Nazi's, even more so in some cases. Just ask an elderly Chinese person who lived through it -I have!

PS: Before the liberals cry out RACISM -because America dropping 2 atom bombs on Japan. If we did not drop those bombs, the only way to defeat Japan was to invade the main island itself; Hundreds of thousands of Americans would have been killed, as well as Millions of Japanese citizens . Japan would have fought to the last man.
Russia would have entered from the North and communism would have seperated Japan like Germany. Remember: America poured billions of dollars to rebuild Japan after the war.

Ah! A fellow conservative! How ya doing?

Anyways, yeah, it probably would affend Japan, even though no one has said anything about this game offending Germany.

*rolls eyes* That to me, is just...I can't explain it.

2015 claims to have been very careful to portray the germans kind of fairly - and in that interview with one of the producers i think he says MOH is more fair to the germans than RTCW.

As for a pacific addon I think maybe some of the young people this game is aimed at are not mature enough to handle it "i wanna kill japs" this is not really the kind of thing EA wants to encourage.

I mean there might be some issues with people who want to keep it PC, although maybe it could be done, I don't know

You guys talking about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
At the time US was No better than the barbaric Hitler, Those two bombs killed hundreds of thousands, Men, Women and children and how would you feel as americans if Bin Laden dropped an A-bomb over you're free country wiping out a whole city, killing millions of you're fellow americans. And don't kid yourself Bin Laden has or once did have nuclear arms but sure he doesn't have what it takes to unleash such a fury and tool of devastation.

i kinda like germans, but hate the japs. i wanna see moh3 in a pacific setting. trhe japs are unforgiven war mongers. those bastards haven't even admitted to their war crimes to this day. ww3?

WHAT! WHAT! WHAT!

Did you just say that people, who by disagreeing with you , are exercising their right to Free speech should be tortured, raped, behead , humiliated and or killed in some horrible fashion.

Aren't you the one who was arguing about how evil Japan was. Didn't you have a relative who experienced that evil first hand.

It sounds to me that you are trashing the very values of free speech that your relative fought for in WW2.

Fascist, o sorry I mean freak, why don't you ask your relative to read this message board and the things that you have posted, paying close attention to that last message. I would be very surprised if they did not smack you in your head.


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I'm american, so if I sound like I'm preaching here, excuse it.

But I believe that Truman's decision to drop the bombs was the right one. He MAY or MAY NOT have saved hundreds or thousands of lives, but we'll never know. Saying that he knew about a POSSIBLE surrender is completely pointless. The only purpose it serves is to say "America sucks. They bombed Japan when they didn't need to, and they stick their nose where it doesn't belong."

To be honest, this type of opinion is far too common. Hell, even AMERICANS say this kind of crap, because they are quite simply uneducated on the matter. The truth is that when another country needs our help, and we don't provide it, the world gets in an uproar. "Why isn't this major superpower helping?" But the SECOND our job is finished, they want us out, like we're an invading army. Bin Laden's entire idealogy is based on this. He thinks that Saudi Arabia never needed our help, and that for simply being there and "interfering" with the affairs of the middle-east, we deserve to burn as the infidels we are. Thats the extremist opinion, but the fact remains. You want us when you need us, but when all is well, you want us to get the fuck out, so you can go back to thrashing our policies. Don't be the policeman of the world? Fine. But when that happens, people are gonna bitch and moan until we help out again, and the cycle starts again.

Saying that the Japanese killed more than Germans or the Germans killed more is also pointless. They did it. Thats whats wrong here. Numbers don't matter. When does the killcount get high enough to warrant using a nuclear weapon? Never. A Nuclear weapon was used because it was the only logical solution. I'm not saying we should nuke a country for every problem we can't solve. I'm saying that back in WW2, it was our last option.

Also - I'm all for a Pacific Front game. Wanna know why? Because, it'd be fun, because its a god damn GAME. I don't play MOH:AA SP because I get to kill Nazis. Fuck, the nazis could be aliens, as long as it was fun. Its a game people, not a look into state of the social world.

On a side note.. even if the rumors of Japan surrendering WERE true. Whats to say they wouldn't completely ignore it and strike again?

Frankloin, for the record i completely agree with everything you have said bout japan and usin the a bombs to save lives, all the facts and statistics you have stated are the actual facts as I have heard them also, so I'm with ya man.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ydiss:
What a boring thread. I wonder how many more of these silly history/racism arguments will we have to endure before you all think of something different to talk about.

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My grandad was in the war and survived it. He had to endure both World Wars. I don't go on about it like Germany owes me something, though.

It doesn't. I think if you have a look Germany is a peace-loving country that is actually a part of the Allies of today.

Japan isn't too much different.

A pacific assault game would be interesting, sure. But not because we'd get to kill the Japanese.

That's ridiculous. It's like claiming you enjoyed playing pacman 'cos you love eating ghosts and little dots...

The key word is 'game'.
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Here here! Well said. Wonder if Germans play this game? Their feelings towards this game would be? *Just curious*

The Bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima with nuclear weapons was justified and right. Japan had to be broken, not just defeated. Else they would have tried their expansionistic, empire building crap again by this point.

They had to be taught a lesson for Pearl Harbor. The message was clear; "you pull a sneak attack on us and we will vaporise a couple hundred thousand of you. Don't fuck with us EVER again!". Consequently they have stayed in their place ever since.

umm just read through all those notes below the link i posted. found this:

{5}The figures for China comprise casualties of the Chinese Nationalist forces during 1937-45, as reported in 1946, and do not include figures for local armies and Communists. Estimates of 2,200,000 military dead and 22,000,000 civilian deaths appear in some compilations but are of doubtful accuracy.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sh3ll_Sh0ck:

Stony your a moron.
Japaneese were worst than the Germans. At least the Wehrmacht didn't activly participte in the Holocaost.

Ironic thing is, durring th Rape of Nanking it was a NAZI who saved the lives of hundreds of innocent civilians. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You don't even know that the contraction of "you are" is spelled Y-O-U-'-R-E and you're calling ME a moron?

Just how much history do you know, little boy? Nobody accused Stalin of war crimes, yet he executed FIVE TIMES as many people as Hitler did during his political purges, his own countrymen as a matter of fact. The Japanses were brutal during their occupation of Chinese Manchuria, and the US nuked 2 Japanese cities, both of which had no strategic importance whatsoever and hundreds of thousands of innocent people died from the blasts and from radiation poisoning thereafter. The list of atrocities goes on and on, with no one nation being more just in their methods than the other. ALL thought at the time that they were doing the right thing.

The winners of wars are NEVER the ones accused of war crimes, only the losers. When (or if) you ever grow up maybe you'll understand that NOBODY is right when EVERYBODY is wrong.

wow, another person who doesn't understand my humor...amazing... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlackRanger3D:
WHAT! WHAT! WHAT!

Did you just say that people, who by disagreeing with you , are exercising their right to Free speech should be tortured, raped, behead , humiliated and or killed in some horrible fashion.

Aren't you the one who was arguing about how evil Japan was. Didn't you have a relative who experienced that evil first hand.

It sounds to me that you are trashing the very values of free speech that your relative fought for in WW2.

Fascist, o sorry I mean freak, why don't you ask your relative to read this message board and the things that you have posted, paying close attention to that last message. I would be very surprised if they did not smack you in your head.


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vermilion Leader:
The Bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima with nuclear weapons was justified and right. Japan had to be broken, not just defeated. Else they would have tried their expansionistic, empire building crap again by this point.

They had to be taught a lesson for Pearl Harbor. The message was clear; "you pull a sneak attack on us and we will vaporise a couple hundred thousand of you. Don't fuck with us EVER again!". Consequently they have stayed in their place ever since.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was Roosevelt who cut off Japan's access to oil and the natural resources in the Phillipines that provoked the Japanese into attacking the US. Whether or not this was a punishment for Japan's invasion of China I don't know, but sometimes it does pay to research the WHOLE situation, namely the events that preceded the events. What I DO know is that the US had economic interests in China at the time Japan invaded it.

Japan didn't just sink the Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor out of spite. They had their reasons, as did the US for nuking them.



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didn't ur mommy ever tell u to never say never? btgw, that comment about war crimes is wrong...as usual <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stony:
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The winners of wars are NEVER the ones accused of war crimes, only the losers. When (or if) you ever grow up maybe you'll understand that NOBODY is right when EVERYBODY is wrong.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

finally, a man with some sense. btw, it's not frankloin...teehee <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Drolmagon:
Frankloin, for the record i completely agree with everything you have said bout japan and usin the a bombs to save lives, all the facts and statistics you have stated are the actual facts as I have heard them also, so I'm with ya man.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Paullo:
umm just read through all those notes below the link i posted. found this:

{5}The figures for China comprise casualties of the Chinese Nationalist forces during 1937-45, as reported in 1946, and do not include figures for local armies and Communists. Estimates of 2,200,000 military dead and 22,000,000 civilian deaths appear in some compilations but are of doubtful accuracy.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, if you want to count it that way, 20,000,000 Soviets died to the Germans, and 6,000,000 Poles died too. So that's makes it 26,000,000 which still tops the Japanese, and that's only counting two countries in Europe.



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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Drolmagon:
Frankloin, for the record i completely agree with everything you have said bout japan and usin the a bombs to save lives, all the facts and statistics you have stated are the actual facts as I have heard them also, so I'm with ya man.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please. I am begging ANY OF YOU, to stop sitting through "Saving Private Ryan", or "The Thin Red Line", or whatever WWII movie kick you are on right now - and do some actual research. War is war. And people WILL commit atrocities - both physical and emotional. The United States is NO exception. Or have we forgotten that we had concentration camps as well? Also do some research on Mengele, and the different "cities" that were constructed, using "inferiors" as guinea pigs in the name of the Third Reich.

Right.

It's just sad that a young man has to front online as a 32-year old, yet the first thing out of his "mature mouth" is "I wanna kill me some japs". I dont care how "legal" the god damn word was "during the war", it still doesn't make it's use right. Or do you not know that blacks were called "niggers" rightfully during the same time?

Pathetic. That's the one thing about this game that makes me fuqqing sick - seems to bring out the sickest "patriotic" feelings in obvious teenagers; because god help me if some of you are "of age" - then I'm arming myself immediately after work.

mazel tov

i THINK A JAPAN SCENERY WILL DEMAND A LOT MORE TECH THAN THE ONE USED AT MOHAA DUE MOSTLY THE PACIFIC INFANTRY WAR WAS FOUGHT AGAINST WELL GUARDED JAPANESSE GARRISONS HELPED BY NATURE TO HIDE, ALSO JAPANESE WERE HIDDEN IN CAVES, SO THIS MOD WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO RECREATE,

ALSO IT WAS MORE JUNGLE COMBAT MORE THAN RUINED CITIES OR INDOORS SCENARIOS AS MOHAA.

ALSO PACIFIC WAR MAS MORE KNOWN AS A SHIP AND AIRPLANE WARS WHERE THE JAPANESE NAVY WAS DESTROYED, MAJOR INFANTRY ASAULTS WERE ON JAPANESE ISLANDS AND TERRITORY SUCH AS OKINAWA.

TRY COMBAT FLIGH SIMULATOR 2 IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIMENT AIR COMBAT OF THE PACIFIC, HOWEVER I THINK WE´RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT A LONG TIME TO SE MOH PACIFIC WAR.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Freakaloin:
didn't ur mommy ever tell u to never say never? btgw, that comment about war crimes is wrong...as usual <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Show me ONE instance where the winners of a war were prosecuted for war crimes, and I'll take your word that you're right and I'm wrong.

Nice to see that Facistaloin is the exception here, not the rule.
God help us if it would be otherwise.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stony:
Show me ONE instance where the winners of a war were prosecuted for war crimes, and I'll take your word that you're right and I'm wrong. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just as a side note, aren't they currently prosecuting Milosevic for war crimes (genocide) that he had commited in Yugoslavia? As for Hitler didn't he commit suicide when he knew he was defeated? Don't know about the rest though (US, Japanese, German or Italian leaders of that era)

sorry what makes ya think i'm saying Japanese killed more than German? I'm talking about Chinese civilian deaths, pointing out that it's not just 3 million deaths, period.

Wrong. Japs killed more people than the Germans, just that no record had been found doesn't mean a thing. Oh by the way 'Jap' is a legit term to call Japanese soldiers in WWII, just like 'Krauts' to the Germans. Watch the history channel if you think I'm racist, if you do you'll find hey, all your American grandpas are racists too! All you people are thinking Nazis are evil, wait until you see how the Japs kill, torture and rape, by then it really makes the Nazis look like merciful candy soldiers

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that is totally true...Look, I live in Hong Kong, South East Asia and I pretty know how people feel aboout the Japanese over here. Almost everyone from the old generation hates the japs for the war atrocities including the allied veterans. The japs treated the allied POWS worse than the germans treated the Jews.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stony:
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You don't even know that the contraction of "you are" is spelled Y-O-U-'-R-E and you're calling ME a moron?

Just how much history do you know, little boy? Nobody accused Stalin of war crimes, yet he executed FIVE TIMES as many people as Hitler did during his political purges, his own countrymen as a matter of fact. The Japanses were brutal during their occupation of Chinese Manchuria, and the US nuked 2 Japanese cities, both of which had no strategic importance whatsoever and hundreds of thousands of innocent people died from the blasts and from radiation poisoning thereafter. The list of atrocities goes on and on, with no one nation being more just in their methods than the other. ALL thought at the time that they were doing the right thing.

The winners of wars are NEVER the ones accused of war crimes, only the losers. When (or if) you ever grow up maybe you'll understand that NOBODY is right when EVERYBODY is wrong.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


At least I have the sence to post stuff that is FACT and not FICTION!
Do some research before you open "you're" useless trap again!

You wanna take this outside? I'm calling you out, tough guy.

IF you understand the facts, then explain to me where I was inaccurate in a way instead of calling someone a moron right from the get-go. You asked to get flamed right back with that post, so why even start with this shit?

Damn.