Nuclear War.
 

Im not trying to start any type of Flame War here, I just found it intresting to see how devestating these things are after they are used.

EDIT: Some extremely grotesque imagery. Proceed with caution.

http://www.ericblumrich.com/pl_lo.html

I don't undertand why they put such a huge emphasis on babies. I mean, look at what alcohol and drugs do to a baby (pregnant mother). Yeah, it's a big deal, but they went in a wrong route there in my opinion.

well... you can't really take pictures of cancer.....And show it and expect it to be effective. I was more intrested in the facts this displayed other then the pictures. They just add more to the point this is trying to make i guess.

gg shitty german music. I've known about depleted uranium for a LONGGGGGG time. Oh and by the way, half of those pictures have nothing to do with it.

p.s. you don't need radiation to have birth defects, in other words, some of those pictures have nothing to do with War or radiation.

saw that one coming from a mile away.

bah, i eat uranium for breakfast!

[quote="Short Hand":e2ddb]saw that one coming from a mile away.[/quote:e2ddb]

So in other words, you're claiming I'm lying about knowing about depleted uranium?

[quote=Ferich]So in other words, you're claiming I'm lying about knowing about depleted uranium?[/quote:b00f3]

No Ferich.. But I should have worded that better, I thought you would have taken it badly. I am preparing for the Flames here.

[quote="Short Hand":2fee2][quote=Ferich]So in other words, you're claiming I'm lying about knowing about depleted uranium?[/quote:2fee2]

No Ferich.. But I should have worded that better, I thought you would have taken it badly. I am preparing for the Flames here.[/quote:2fee2]

The only thing I have a problem with is that most of those pictures have jackshit to do with depleted uranium or nuclear war. Look like strange birth defects that happen with drugs, drinking bleach, whatever.

Well the Photographs were all From a single Photographer, just google his name and im sure all the back info on them can be attained. Thus telling what has caused this stuff to them.

Hey fuckhead how about a NSFW warning or something.At least a dead mutilated baby warning..I was expecting something about japan and now im looking at fucked up babys?I thought people could get banned for that baby soup bullshit..this is just as bad if not worse..Please,stick a fucking warning in there! cuss:

umm.... They show this kind of stuff on TV,...... After seeing Tub Girl & That other shit edited into my posts so many times last night I guess I may be a little uneffected by this stuff.

Takashi Morizumi is the fellow's name. I got confused since I saw his 1st Gulf War pictures a few years ago, then other ones during the 2nd. ANYWAYS, DU = War Crime. I've felt that way long before seeing this movie.

[quote="Short Hand":8830d]umm.... They show this kind of stuff on TV,...... After seeing Tub Girl & That other shit edited into my posts so many times last night I guess I may be a little uneffected by this stuff.[/quote:8830d]I wasnt here for 2 days so i didnt see it and thus dont care..All i ask is a warning,please?[/offtopic]


I turned it off halfway through.Stupid german music&dead babys++.Can someone give me cliffs so i dont have to look at that crap?

Re: Nuclear War.
 

[quote="Short Hand":a9b7c]Im not trying to start any type of Flame War here, I just found it intresting to see how devestating these things are after they are used.


[url="http://www.ericblumrich.com/pl_lo.html"]http://www.ericblumrich.com/pl_lo.html[/url][/quote:a9b7c]

shit, thats fucked.

hope i dont get uraniumed loney:

We've dropped 400 tonnes of Depeleted uranium

In 2003 in bagdad radation levels were 1000-1700 times higher

Cancer and Deformities have gone way up in bagdad since the first world war

67% of gulf war vets have deformed kids

Depleted Uranium has a half-life of over 4 billion years.

beer:

In yugoslovia cancer has risen 167 %

In iraq cancer has sky rocketed/ up to some estimates claim asm uch as 1900 %.... Fuck me....

[quote="Short Hand":51555]In yugoslovia cancer has risen 167 %

In iraq cancer has sky rocketed/ up to some estimates claim asm uch as 1900 %.... Fuck me....[/quote:51555]
Source?

the flash video. All the info is cited in their at the end of it. Mr STRVS.

[23:09] <Innoxx> http://www.ericblumrich.com/pl_lo.html
[23:09] <Innoxx> I wonder how true that is.
[23:13] <Da_Bian> delicious
[23:13] <STRVS> Holy mutated baby batman
[23:14] <STRVS> Itd be more beleivable if it didnt have that horrible music
[23:14] <Innoxx> and irrelvent material
[23:14] <Innoxx> nothing like getting deformed "cute things" to state your point
[23:15] <STRVS> Shock em into joining you.
[23:15] <STRVS> Works everytime
[23:15] <Innoxx> jup
[23:16] <Innoxx> Funny how they haven't provide any sources to back their claims either.
[23:16] <STRVS> We dont need facts, what we need is disgusting mutations
[23:17] <Innoxx> You know that in 2001, the sodomy rate among males between the ages of 16-25 has risen 30,000%? Mind you, this has everything to do with the production of Axe deordorant bodyspray.
[23:18] <STRVS> Cue picture of dead babie
[23:18] <STRVS> ITS TRUE!!!
[23:18] <Ferich> Whatever happened to a tommy gun and a few grenades?
[23:19] <Ferich> Let's shoot radiation at eachother.
[23:21] <Ferich> There's probably like 343432 Spidermen in Iraq
[23:21] <Ferich> Not really many buildings to shoot your web onto too...so they just ride camels with a web logo on the side.
[23:21] <Innoxx> lol

Inny...This was cited in the end of it...

http://www.cadu.org.uk/

Im guessing the facts were gathered from there. Yes.. The babies do add a shock value to it, making it more shocking to the viewer. But this is done all the time... If ya think about it.

http://www.ericblumrich.com

I also beleives he cites it in his site... Im not trying to start anything here..

if its on the internet it must be true..................


propoganda bullshit, I refuse to believe those pictures are from the bombs that we recently dropped in the gulf. If you believe that crap, good luck in your life. Use your head for something other than a hatrack

Some DU related links if anyone wants to have a read....

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/133581_du04.html

http://www.sundayherald.com/40096

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993627

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ... 233872.DTL

http://www.robert-fisk.com/depleted_uranium_links.htm

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/get ... 1122b3.htm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/THO302A.html

[quote:d4ee5][T]he two contenders met, with all their troops, on the field of Camlan to negotiate. Both sides were fully armed and desperately suspicious that the other side was going to try some ruse or stratagem. The negotiations were going along smoothly until one of the knights was stung by an asp and drew his sword to kill the reptile. The others saw the sword being drawn and immediately fell upon each other. A tremendous slaughter ensued. The chronicle.., is quite specific about the point that the slaughter was excessive chiefly because the battle took place without preparations and premeditation. [/quote:d4ee5]

Herman Kahn, - Thermonuclear War

yes, depleted uranium is bad. we've known this for quite some time. Two of the pictures i've actually seen before (i forget where though), and they had nothing to do with the effectsof DU.

Please stick disclaimers on this kind of stuff please. eek:

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":8f7c9][quote:8f7c9][T]he two contenders met, with all their troops, on the field of Camlan to negotiate. Both sides were fully armed and desperately suspicious that the other side was going to try some ruse or stratagem. The negotiations were going along smoothly until one of the knights was stung by an asp and drew his sword to kill the reptile. The others saw the sword being drawn and immediately fell upon each other. A tremendous slaughter ensued. The chronicle.., is quite specific about the point that the slaughter was excessive chiefly because the battle took place without preparations and premeditation. [/quote:8f7c9]

Herman Kahn, - Thermonuclear War[/quote:8f7c9]
Isnt that about King Arthur???

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":4cece]if its on the internet it must be true..................


propoganda bullshit, I refuse to believe those pictures are from the bombs that we recently dropped in the gulf. If you believe that crap, good luck in your life. Use your head for something other than a hatrack[/quote:4cece]


i hear what you are saying... BUT... look at photos from the devestation of Hiroshima, and those photos, you will see a direct relationship in the types of defects caused by radiation...

it is a very propagandic/in-your-face video, but the fact remains that war is horrible and gory...

We shouldn't be analyzing the photos...those are just done for effect.

What we should focus on are the stats. And if their true, then there may be a point to a video.

thats what i wanted people to take into effect.. yet 90 % has failed to do so..

First of all, about half of those are taken from a VERY old (1970s, IIRC) advanced anatomy textbook. A buddy of mine used the textbook as a reference for his biology analysis paper on the effects alcohol and drug abuse have on a fetus.

That being said, I can pretty much guarantee you that none of those pictures are even scarcely related to the depleted uranium left behind from ammunition. In fact, the residue left from this type of ammunition is so slight that a stock Geiger counter won't even register it above the natural radiation levels created by sunlight, etc.

Your computer, cell phone, laptop, PDA, cordless telephone, television [et al] generate more radiation than a depleted uranium round.

This is just an example of a bored 14-year old with half the facts or some dumbshit, hippy freshman science teacher who decided to make a "cool" flash video regarding something about which he is utterly fucking clueless.

Source of my information is the three hour debate I was required to participate in for my Politics 211 course, so I apologize that I don't have links. If anyone feels like looking all this up, feel free to link it.

That's why I said ignore the pictures. oOo:

lol.

I caught that, which is why I also discounted whatever source he used to gather his information on the effects of depleted uranium ammunition. About the only fact in his cute little presentation was the half-life of depleted uranium.

Some information on why DU ammunition isn't harmful:

[quote:25b78]
An alpha particle consists of two protons and two neutrons and is positively charged (+2). Most alpha particles are not energetic enough to penetrate skin and are not considered an external hazard.[/quote:25b78]

[quote:25b78]
238U—which by weight makes up almost 99.8 percent of DU—is an alpha emitter. The radiological half-life of 238U or the time required for 238U to lose 50 percent of its activity by decay is 4.5 x 109 years. 238U decays into two short-lived "daughters:" thorium-234 (234Th, half-life of 24.1 days) and protactinium-234m (234mPa, half-life of 1.17 minutes)—which are beta and gamma emitters. Because of this constant nuclear decay process, very small amounts of these "daughters" are always present in DU. 235U (half-life of 7.0 x 108 years) decays into thorium-231 (231Th, half-life 25.5 hours), which decays into protactinium-231 (231Pa, half-life of 3.25 x 104 years) and then to actinium with a half-life of 21.8 years, resulting in alpha and beta particles and gamma rays.[196] The 238U and 235U chains continue through a series of isotopes before terminating in stable, non-radioactive lead isotopes 206Pb and 207-Pb, respectively.[/quote:25b78]

[quote:25b78]
"Depleted uranium," the byproduct of the enrichment process, has about 0.002 percent 234U, 0.2 percent 235U and 99.8 percent 238U, and about 60 percent of natural uranium’s radioactivity. In the gaseous diffusion process, uranium hexafluoride (UF6), a gaseous compound of uranium and fluorine, is separated into two fractions—one enriched in 235U and one depleted in 235U. The depleted fraction is then chemically transformed into a uranium metal stock. This is the first stage at which the depleted material is in the state necessary for further processing by ammunition manufacturers.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) defines "depleted uranium" as uranium in which the percentage of the 235U isotope’s weight is less than 0.711 percent. Military specifications mandated by the Department of Defense (DoD) require that the percentage of 235U be less than 0.3 percent, but in actual practice, DoD uses DU with a 235U content of approximately 0.2 percent.[197] DU is 40 percent less radioactive than the uranium in the raw uranium-bearing ores found in nature; but its material content is still uranium. The specific activity of DU is, therefore, about 0.4 µCi/g. All isotopes of uranium are essentially identical chemically and, since depleted and natural uranium are just different mixtures of the same three isotopes, they have the same chemical properties.

The Department of Energy has recently reported that the DU used by DOD in its armor plates (found only on "Heavy Armor" Abrams tank models) may contain trace levels of transuranics (neptunium, plutonium, and americium) and fission products (technetium-99). The DU used in munitions may also contain these materials. The military services are testing the stocks of DU munitions and parts. The levels of transuranics and fission products found during testing of the material used for producing armor packages are in minute quantities (the picocurie/gram range) and result in less than a one percent increase in the internal radiation dose. These evaluations indicate that measures designed to protect personnel from the DU itself are adequate to protect them from the traces of transuranics and fission products as well.[/quote:25b78]

So wtf was the point in short showing us this oOo:

He just didn't know any better. Not his fault, really. He just didn't take any time to research or form his own opinion on it and allowed it to do as intended - influence his opinion on such things.

^ he is the side affect of depleated uranium

[quote="Mr. maple":a154d]^ he is the side affect of depleated uranium[/quote:a154d]

America sucks.