Found - the newest members of the human family
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/ ... 66340.html

HARRY HENDERSON

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Ye hath been smitten. hellfire:

Id hit it! rock:

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I like how the article tries to be politically correct by referring to them by "little people"

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I like how the article tries to be politically correct by referring to them as "little people"

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looks like.........

Some guy I work with laughed at me yesterday because I told him that I believe in Darwinism and human evolution.

pff bogus bull shit...I dont believe in darwins theory...We were created by god...So what if you hate my theory, because its not a theory,its the truth.
There is no fucking way we can become this damn intelligent from that little damn chimp looking thing...and it was only twice the size of a rat? BULLSHIT

So instead you believe a giant man in the sky created us all?

Ok ,lets say the darwin theory is true and the "Big Bang" was also..
Who the hell created the big bang?
But god was always there...wierd I know, But I believe it.
And god is not a man...he is everything around us and in us,he is a spirit..

Sound's like bullshit to me.

Id believe we evolved from a smaller form over a fucking spirit that created us all.

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I'm reminded of a poster I have in my room.

A quote from the great Carl Sagan:

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" Look at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there - on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors, so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.

Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

big bang theory is constant collapse and reforming of the universe

ok.ok

I used to think all that - a few years ago i decided - i believe in 'something' that i dont know anything about, never seen, never met. No EVIDENCE has been proved about the 'god' story but evidence has been discovered about our evolution from a monkey.

Why should i worship something that hasnt actually done anything for me. People say he made me - bullshit - my parents made me. I couldnt worship something that i dont even know is real. In my past years - when i needed 'god' the most - he never gave a sign or any comfort so why the hell does he expect me to waste my whole life doing all the shitty stuff he wants.

The big bang is much more believable than a god.

I love you.

Science is the key behind everything. God is merley something written in a book. Religion is ideas and thaughts that people follow. Our parents make us, the big bang was science, and evolution is science. I cant beleive that a 'spirit' made everything. Thats bullshit

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The Big Bang is a theory, but it should be widely accepted as a rule. Cosmic radiation left behind from the rapid expansion and explosion of the universe can be easily detected above earths atmosphere.

It is very hard to deny that neanderthals once walked the earth, along with MANY other species of upright walking men who could build fires weapons tools and learn a language.

Oh and that article didn't say we evolved from that mini me, it was just another species. Truly, today we could be walking around with another form of human, if they had not died out during the ice age or some other time like the neanderthals, or other species. We survived the ice age.

You know, the RC Church 400 years ago believed the heavens were perfect. All objects orbited in perfect circular orbits. And there were 7 objects in our solar system, one for every day the earth was created. The Earth, the Moon, the Sun, and 4 planets. Well, along came this guy named Gallileo Galeli and he said there were 4 moons orbiting around Jupiter. Why this couldn't be true, the church said, because that would make 11 objects.

Guess what? The church was wrong then, and wrong countless other times, along with thousands of other religions. What makes them right about creation? You've all heard of Occams razor probably from the movie contact. It comes into play here. Would you believe something with no proof, and that can never be proven unless God actually puts on a demonstration at a science fair, or something that can be generally accepted because it is simple, explanitory and believable?

you bloody heathen... biggrin: ...

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No-one knows what happened, so let's all just stfu and watch TV. spank:

STFU and pass the bananas.

Anyone that doesn't believe in, or at least takes concideration in, Darwin's Theory of Evolution is retarded. Hell, a lot of Protestants believe in Evolution.

Who the hell made your parents and so on and so on?
Big bang I think IMO is a little over the top..But in scientific terms its true but in alot of peoples beliefs, its true.

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Who the hell made your parents and so on and so on?
Big bang I think IMO is a little over the top..But in scientific terms its true but in alot of peoples beliefs, its true.[/quote:5fc69]
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Who the hell made your parents and so on and so on?
Big bang I think IMO is a little over the top..But in scientific terms its true but in alot of peoples beliefs, its true.[/quote:46ddc]
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My grandparents and great grandparents - and then a bunch of humping monkeys.

You expect us to respect your opinion after that post? rolleyes:

how are they sure its a another species of homo...., couldnt it have just been a small female homo......?

I still dont understand how you think the big bang is "over the top" Yet you believe a spirit, that is everywhere at one time, created every living thing on earth.

I highley recomend that each and every person experiance the power and spirtual cleansing of strong faith, it will undoubtably change your life. And as I see it the purpose and benifit is soley individual and personal.

For matters of origen and creation, we simply must explore all opinions and theories with a grain of salt. There is not a person on the planet that can properly explain or understand those questions, and I have my doubts as to whether we will ever know.

What we do have, however is science. With science we can start to understand things as fact instead of just speculation. The following are proven facts:

the Book of God

The bible as we know it was composed in the 1500's by a monk in Itally. The region, his faith, and the standards of the time ecouraged it's editing. This bible is composed of stories, written word, and folk of the holy lands people. These collections of accounts were then edited by the monk to create our bible.
These stories, folk-tales, and written words were gathered from a language that no longer existed... even then. Translation was fair at best.

Jesus

Dispite popularity, the actual existance of the savior is uncertain. Records of the day were mostly composed for tax reasons...keep in mind, this is the time of the Roman Empire and non-Roman citizens were recorded by head count...not name. So there is no written record of Jesus. The story does fit, however. The time frame and his placement in it is fairly acurate, also the inacuracies can in some cases be attributed to the "loss" of time. ie:Its 2004 "AD" not the year 118,000.


You can make of that what you like, one thing that is certain is "Evolution". This is indisputable. How it began may be a bit hazy but a natural process called adaptation is the very reason we... and all life on the planet has survived.

i love when people say that, they say "i dont believe in evolution, its too radical" or "too unproven"

but they actuallly choose to believe that a myserious, invisible being created everything, and they dont seem to care that they cant prove this at all...

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did you know some people dont even believe in atoms?

I guess im religous but honestly I think religion has done more bad than good. Really, think about it, it has caused alot more wars in this world

You know, I guess evolution has taken place, but no I do not think we came from monkeys. I believe that God created us, just as it says in the Bible. People say you can't prove this, and maybe thye are right, but when you have a real relationship with the Lord you have these feeling of assurance. It is almost hard to explain. I just don't see how we could have came from monkeys, I mean look how sexy I am. There was never a monkey this sexy. Things are just way to complex to have evolved all own their own, just don't see it happening. My extreme sexiness is just the absolute best example.

Very True, I can't find a related topic on Google, but I read a few years back while studying the Crusades that more people on the planet have died "In the name of God" than in all the wars of man in all of time.

From the Roman / Celtic wars to the Crusades
From Cortez to the French Inquisition
From Sarah Good to Isalmic Jihadists

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

Religion is the last great hurdle for Mankind.

Religion has caused war, but don't get Christianity mixed up in that. Read the Bible. The Romans, and others used Christianity for many purposes, few of them helping people.