Genetic Enhancement
 

alright, as I always do when I start a controversial type of thread I state what I expect to get out of it. I expect people to start flaming each other for no reason at all, I expect people to post some randomly offtopic comment, i expect people to, heh I just realized I described 90% of the threads here. happy:

Anyway, to be serious here, scientists are already pretty much perfecting cloning, and singapore outlawed human cloning etc, so personally I think Genetic Enhancement is not too far behind. You could pretty much be exactly the way you wanted to be. There would be no more hereditary diseases, no more blind or deaf people, no more retarded people or insane people, no more disabilities... Imagine what human beings could accomplish if we were genetically enhanced... Most people dont agree with me on this, but over the past few days Ive had a lot of conversations about this. My own parents think that "you shouldnt tamper with what nature has given you," my best friend thinks that you could anger god or some shit like that if you did it, but I think all of thats bullshit. Anyway, on to the poll question. Do you think genetcial enhacment would be beneficial to improving our scoiety, or do you think we should stay away from it.

undecided

I say we should explore the reaches of cloning.

It raises a few points of perceived indiviuality. Are you really yourself or simply the way your parents designed you to be. Are you good at things because there just right for you or are you built to enjoy and be sucessful at them? I dont see much reason to breed a super race of humans via designer kids, considering that most of the population does remedial task. Most parents would build there kids to be good athletes, or smart so they could become doctors, or lawers, etc. No one is going to build a kid to become a garbage man, or a ringer at a local stores cash register.

I feel that making designer people is a bad idea, however correcting life threatning, or destroying problems i have no issue with. The problem arises that when your fixing a birth defect whats to stop you from tossing in some stuff to make improvments else where. Theres no reason for someone to be born onto this planet just to go through hell with some shitty problem, but theres also no reason to "upgrade" a normal person.

You raise good points, but as I said before, Imagine what we could accomplish if people were GE. Of course there should be some guidelines that are enforced by law. Also, I am getting to a new topic by saying this but I read a projection that robots will start to be widely used to do basic household chores, etc within 10 years. Robots would be ideal for jobs such as garbage picking etc.

bump, come on people speak up, im bored to death.

I hate the idea.

Would u mind explaining y it is that you hate it?

I am going to say that cliche phrase of "We shouldn't mess with mother nature." I really don't think that's our spot as humans. Even if there were many possibilities of curing diseases and helping the disabled, i still don't think that's our spot to go as humans. Leave it up to the higher being (Let lightning hit me if I even mention the word God/Jesus in this thread)

No offense meant but the higher being is not curing people who have genetic diseases. The higher being is not helping people who have to live their whole lives and never hearing anything, or never seeing anything, or never walking... If the higher being does not help us, then we must help ourselves if we hope to survive, and prosper.

Maybe he's "testing" those people or those around thems "faith". You know that whole "god works in mysterious ways" bullshit people always use when bad things happen. That or hes punishing hte parents for there lives of sin, or fate has plans for them never being able to see/hear.

I often use this as an example. What about the holocaust. 6 million people died. Was he testing our faith then?

maybe he was helping people in the long run with population control. oOo:

Well if he was going to do that then y cant he kill people evenly? He didnt kill 6 million jews, 6 million bhuddhists 6 million catholics, 6 million himdus etc, he just killed 6 million jews. Also, isnt god supposed to be the most understanding and compassionate being of all? So then why would this perfect being commit genocide?

no being was perfect except for Jesus; and you could make an argument that Mary was perfect too.


EDIT: I totally misread the last sentence of your statement--my bad. God does put people under tests to see their level of faith. This world does not matter when it comes to rules of God's compassion. It's the afterlife that God will give forgiveness and show his compassion towards his loved children.

[quote=Coleman]no being was perfect except for Jesus; and you could make an argument that Mary was perfect too.


EDIT: I totally misread the last sentence of your statement--my bad. God does put people under tests to see their level of faith. This world does not matter when it comes to rules of God's compassion. It's the afterlife that God will give forgiveness and show his compassion towards his loved children.[/quote:da7d4] I understand what youre saying but it just doesnt make sense. Correct me if I am misunderstanding you but are you implying that it doesnt matter how you die? I beg to differ. I would much rather die instantly from a bullet to the head then die by being crucified or watnot.

No. I think we should just let nature do its thing.

I think that we should continue with it to help the defects on some humas like you said (hearing, deaf, blind, retarted), and if possible venture out into the idea of making us stronger or smarter if thats possible. I would just love to see everyone with no lost limbs or disabilities. It would be so much better cuz you wouldn't have to feel bad if your walking down the street and see someone in wheelchair. It would also get rid of a lot of prejudice.

On the religion subject, best explanation of religion ever from end of days

[quote:c063b]Something good happens, "It's His will." Something bad happens, "He moves in mysterious ways." If you look at that overblown pressbook the bible what does it tell you? Shit happens.[/quote:c063b]

[quote=Trunks][quote=Coleman]no being was perfect except for Jesus; and you could make an argument that Mary was perfect too.


EDIT: I totally misread the last sentence of your statement--my bad. God does put people under tests to see their level of faith. This world does not matter when it comes to rules of God's compassion. It's the afterlife that God will give forgiveness and show his compassion towards his loved children.[/quote:436ae] I understand what youre saying but it just doesnt make sense. Correct me if I am misunderstanding you but are you implying that it doesnt matter how you die? I beg to differ. I would much rather die instantly from a bullet to the head then die by being crucified or watnot.[/quote:436ae]nope, i'm not saying anything about ways of death. I am saying that our "human life" is a whole test of faith. I know, most people think that's a bunch of crock shit, but that's what i believe. The faith is the thing that will matter at judgement when you die. So, I'm saying that God shows his compassion when you're standing before him ready to hear your sentence (eternal life in heaven/hell/pergatory/limbo). That's where God's compassion sets in, and not totally in our human lives. That's why people have it harder than others. That's why life isn't fair. It's all a test of faith.

[/quote] It's all a test of faith.[/quote]

This is like that movie Gattaca .. or something like that.