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Madmartagen 11-19-2004 01:06 AM

FCC getting out of hand?
 
Anyone notice the quick apologies the media and news are making whenever something remotely sexual, violent or for that matter 'entertaining' pops on the air by accident or on purpose? The latest incident involving Nicollette Sheridan and Terrell Owens on a Monday Night Football commercial. She drops her towel and jumps into his arms, but all you see is her back. ABC could get fined $32,500 for this. During Veterans Day, a bunch of stations decided not to aire Saving Private Ryan because they didnt want to be fined by the FCC. The following report was written by a dude named Danny on consumptionjunciton.com, and he brings up some scary news i havent even heard about, but i cant find anything about it on the internet yet. He says the FCC may be moving in on the internet AND premium cable tv. fuck that dudes.

Friday, November 19, 2004
The FCC Can Suck My Sweaty Italian Cock

Please, Don't Agitate Danny

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Poised on the brink of becoming a Nazi-like babysitter, ready to punish us ALL for fear of...dear god no...hearing or seeing something "dirty", the Federal Communications Commission is now seeking to expand its powers to encompass pay-for-cable television, satellite radio, and yes, even the internet. Once thought to be an untouchable fairyland of beastiality, amputee porn, beheading videos, and the home of the Holy Grail of Free Entertainment...Consumption Junction, the FCC seeks to wrap its slimy moral tentacles over it all and make it "safe" and "wholesome". Fuck that shit. The REASON I frequent the internet and THIS site is to get my daily dose of sick and perverted material. Without that comforting dose of perversion, I fear my sanity would slowly unravel and the only thing that would prevent me from walking into a Burger Shack armed with a 12 gauge is the comforting thought that sites like THIS exist unhindered by censorship.

The national tone is becoming completely out of wack ever since Janet Jackson unleashed her 40 year old wrinkled raisinette onto the world at large during the StuporBowl. But personally, I don't feel the blame should land squarely on Janet's shoulders. No, the man (and I use that term loosely) who should be strung up and sodomized by the entire Carolina Panter's defense line-up is Justin Timberlake. If it wasn't for him, that son-of-a-bitch, if not for him and his desire to unleash Janet's chocolate flapjack to the world at large...then the FCC would still be a mockery of what it has become today. Ever since then, it seems that our very moral standings have reversed back to the days of the Puritans. One has to only listen to talk radio, where fear of even slipping up has gripped once mighty speakers of freedom with the insane urge to curb their tounges. All it takes is ONE fucking complaint...one little complaint and the FCC will investigate. Take for instance, the Veteran's Day debacle over "Saving Private Ryan".

"Saving Private Ryan"...how the fuck can anyone consider this truly patriotic and inspiring film about the sacrifice our very own troops made during D-Day? Well, one pussy ass did. And because of that person, a large number of ABC affiliates refused to play an uncut version of the film. It boggles the mind. Fuck, even PBS...the one station I wouldn't watch even if every other station dropped off the face of the earth and the only option for television entertainment was PBS or Lifetime? Damn right, I'd be watching Golden Girls on Lifetime. But even PBS had to heavily censor a documentary on a Puerto Rican poet for fear of the FCC cracking down on them. So all 14 of PBS's viewers had to go without hearing a few innocent expletives.

But soon the fight for freedom of speech and expression may be all for naught. A large majority of Republicans AND Democrats alike now are pushing for a more aggressive approach towards "cleaning" up what we read, what we see, and what we hear. I'm not going to sit here and try to put the blame on our current President and his administration, for that will only bring about more bullshit from their supporters. No, I blame YOU. I blame the majority of you fucks who sit back and let this type of censorship happen without batting an eye or getting in contact with your state's Congressmen and Senators and asking them "Why?". I don't blame the Moral Majority, NOR do I blame the fanatical Christian Right. I blame US. I blame the sick fucks and perverted freaks who just sit there and allow the afore-mentioned to fuck us right in the ass without so much as a handshake or lube.

What can we do? I certainly don't have the answers, people. I've tried, believe me, I've tried but my letters and phonecalls to my Congressmen go unanswered. And now with Conservative Republicans and the Christian Right dominating both State and Federal government, MY right to watch an amputee midget sucking a retarded donkey's cock will soon go the way of the dodo.

Furiously downloading as much fucked up porn as I can before it's too late,

danny@consumptionjunction.com

Himmler 11-19-2004 01:25 AM

oOo:

Akuma 11-19-2004 03:42 AM

Might have some good points if it wasn't quite so oOo: .

MotoxXx 11-19-2004 05:46 AM

Yes.

Mr.Buttocks 11-19-2004 06:27 AM

American politics - especially the Republican party - has been hijacked by religious zealots, expect more censorship in the near future.

SoLiDUS 11-19-2004 07:02 AM

Orwellian future, here we come. Viva la Resistance!

Zoner 11-19-2004 07:14 AM

Times like these, I'm glad to be Canadian.

No wait...the CRTC sucks cock too! Fuck. mad:

tomxtr 11-19-2004 07:21 AM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":de577]American politics - especially the Republican party - has been hijacked by religious zealots, expect more censorship in the near future.[/quote:de577]

As someone who leans a little right of center, I'm sad to say this is true. This is why Howard Stern is going to satellite radio. The FCC does not currently regulate this medium. If they attempt to regulate satellite radio or tv, cable, or the internet, then people will rise up. Until then, not enough people will act. I wrote both of my senators to express my disgust over the FCC. Curiously enough I received a vague response 5+ months after I complained and coincidentally after her seat was secure after being re-elected. Being that she (Barbara Mikulski) is a liberal, I was a little surprised at her position.

[quote:de577]November 10, 2004



Mr. Thomas ***
***
***, Maryland 21043-3485

Dear Mr. ***:

Thank you for contacting me about the Federal Communications Commission
(FCC) and the issue of indecency on broadcast television and radio. It's good
to hear from you.

I want you to know that I unconditionally support the First Amendment
and stand against efforts to restrict the free exchange of ideas that our nation
is based on.

However, when it comes to the use of publicly owned airwaves, television
and radio stations must make efforts to protect children from indecent and
profane material.

I understand concerns about how actions by the FCC might restrict free
speech. That's why I supported a narrow and limited amendment that increases
the maximum fine that the FCC can levy from $27,500 to $275,000. This amendment
also guides the FCC as they levy fines. It requires them to take in
consideration several factors, including whether the indecency was on a scripted
or unscripted show, whether it was live or recorded, whether a time delay device
was in use, or whether the show was intended for families or children, among
other criteria. These criteria help balance free speech concerns with the
public interest.


You can be certain that I will be watching closely as the FCC address
indecency on the public airwaves. I also want you to know that I will keep your
views in mind should any other legislation concerning the FCC come before the
Senate in the future.

Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Please let me know if I can
be of any assistance to you again in the future.

Sincerely,

Barbara A. Mikulski
United States Senator

P.S. If I can be of any further assistance in the future, please visit my
website at [url="http://mikulski.senate.gov"]http://mikulski.senate.gov[/url] or call my Washington office at
202-224-4654.
[/quote:de577]

Zoner 11-19-2004 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Orwellian future, here we come. Viva la Resistance!

Two words: Bleu Nuit.

You know what I'm sayin', right Sloi? rock:

Sgt>Stackem 11-19-2004 08:35 AM

there has to be limits on public radio or TV. What those limits are is up for discussion. Howard Stren should be censored. ( I do listen to him) Limits have to be there. Now if it is a pay service then its no holds barred

Nyck 11-19-2004 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Two words: Bleu Nuit.


Man you need to release that dont let it build up like that

two words : jerk off

bukdez 11-19-2004 08:56 AM

FREEDOM OF SPEECH... just watch what you say...

I think there are limits to what should or shoudn't be on tv/radio, obviously hard-core porn shoudn't air in the evening on regular cable... but ever since JJ's boobie made a guest appearence at the super-bowl, it's been lock-down...

Zoner 11-19-2004 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Two words: Bleu Nuit.


Man you need to release that dont let it build up like that

two words : jerk off

HAW HAW!

Blue Nuit = hardcore programming from Quebec on Friday nights rock:

Godsmack 11-19-2004 11:16 AM

annoy:

Short Hand 11-19-2004 11:25 AM

ffs. when will it end.

tomxtr 11-19-2004 11:27 AM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":1ca7d]there has to be limits on public radio or TV. What those limits are is up for discussion. Howard Stren should be censored. ( I do listen to him) Limits have to be there. Now if it is a pay service then its no holds barred[/quote:1ca7d]

My only concern is that these limits are at the sole discretion of appointed, not elected, officials. So, as buttocks alluded to, if you have a religious zealot in the position of FCC chaiman, do you want this individual deciding what is OK for you to listen to or watch?

Nyck 11-19-2004 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Two words: Bleu Nuit.


Man you need to release that dont let it build up like that

two words : jerk off

HAW HAW!

Blue Nuit = hardcore programming from Quebec on Friday nights rock:

heh I thought it was fancy canadian talk for blue nuts aka blue balls

SoLiDUS 11-19-2004 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoner
Two words: Bleu Nuit.

You know what I'm sayin', right Sloi? rock:

LOL. All too well, my friend... all too well. Those were good times when I was
younger! Remember Emmanuelle ? Hahahaha...

Apocalypse | NoW 11-19-2004 01:22 PM

hake:

Tripper 11-19-2004 03:22 PM

Fuck that shit oOo:

Jin-Roh 11-19-2004 03:50 PM

If they are given too much power, they'll obviously go for the internet!

ed: And take away Mr.Buttocks' sig!

Himmler 11-19-2004 03:54 PM

[quote="Jin-Roh":ba650]If they are given too much power, they'll obviously go for the internet!

ed: And take away Mr.Buttocks' sig![/quote:ba650]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cry:

9mm BeRetTa 11-19-2004 06:01 PM

FCC should be more concerned about stuff like Viagra adds and Victoria's Secret commercials during baseball games and stuff which little kids actually watch.

Saving Private Ryan is no worse than desparate housewives or the OC and its the parents job to make sure the right aged kids watch these shows.

TGB! 11-19-2004 08:20 PM

[quote="9mm BeRetTa":2bd49]FCC should be more concerned about stuff like Viagra adds and Victoria's Secret commercials during baseball games and stuff which little kids actually watch.

Saving Private Ryan is no worse than desparate housewives or the OC and its the parents job to make sure the right aged kids watch these shows.[/quote:2bd49]

It was an sexual explicit segment DURING a sporting game. . .this is their JOB. . .jesus - how is that hard to understand. All this "lighten up" bullshit - if it were something that bothered you you wouldnt have this same attitude. Folks dont understand its NOT about sex. . .its about decency standards and the ability to be able to watch a game without being forced to subscribe to whatever social mores the OTHER GUY wants.

Jin-Roh 11-19-2004 08:24 PM

[quote="TGB!":a899f]It was an sexual explicit segment DURING a sporting game. . .this is their JOB. . .jesus - how is that hard to understand. All this "lighten up" bullshit - if it were something that bothered you you wouldnt have this same attitude. Folks dont understand its NOT about sex. . .its about decency standards and the ability to be able to watch a game without being forced to subscribe to whatever social mores the OTHER GUY wants. [/quote:a899f]

Can you kinda reexplain that? I am having trouble following, just PM if you want. I think what you are trying to say makes sense, just... eh... I am not a very good reader. oOo:

9mm BeRetTa 11-19-2004 09:30 PM

[quote="TGB!":f8058]It was an sexual explicit segment DURING a sporting game. . .this is their JOB. . .jesus - how is that hard to understand. All this "lighten up" bullshit - if it were something that bothered you you wouldnt have this same attitude. Folks dont understand its NOT about sex. . .its about decency standards and the ability to be able to watch a game without being forced to subscribe to whatever social mores the OTHER GUY wants. [/quote:f8058]

I am not trying to deny that the super bowl incident was bad. Its the other things that are done wrong such as the fining of Howard Stern and the ABC movie problem.

And about that "if it were something that bothered you" I said what bothers me, the ads and commercials they play during sporting events, not the TV that comes on after 8pm (excluding super bowl, world series etc...)

TGB! 11-20-2004 09:06 AM

There was no ABC movie problem (they self-censored themselves - and the FCC went out and said they would have had no problem with SPR airing) and Howard Stern CROSSED the line of decency which is spelled out in the laws set in 1979. He HAD It coming 9MM - for years. . .its just he enjoyed quite a bit of protection under Clintons FCC. . .what if someone put up hate speech against you and your family - and they said "ahh cmon - its just in good fun" - would you accept that? Or would you want some justice.

bukdez 11-20-2004 09:23 AM

decency is in the eye of the beholder...

mR.cLeAn 11-20-2004 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotoxXx
Yes.

I hate the FCC ... they were the reason my favorite Disk Jockey got fired.

Bubba The Love Spounge

FCC = NAZI

Sergeant_Scrotum 11-20-2004 01:54 PM

Everywhere else in the world censorship is becoming more lax except in the united states, which is taking steps backwards.

Short Hand 11-20-2004 01:59 PM

[quote="TGB!":96b92]There was no ABC movie problem (they self-censored themselves - and the FCC went out and said they would have had no problem with SPR airing) and Howard Stern CROSSED the line of decency which is spelled out in the laws set in 1979. He HAD It coming 9MM - for years. . .its just he enjoyed quite a bit of protection under Clintons FCC. . .what if someone put up hate speech against you and your family - and they said "ahh cmon - its just in good fun" - would you accept that? Or would you want some justice.[/quote:96b92]

there you go blaming clinton you miserable sot.


Howard Stern > You.

Coleman 11-20-2004 02:09 PM

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":b3d23]Everywhere else in the world censorship is becoming more lax except in the united states, which is taking steps backwards.[/quote:b3d23]well look at europe's culture. They have a bunch of nude beaches where kids are allowed to run around naked and it is viewed as normal by almost every person.

There are cultural differences going on. Plus, the USA is "more religious" compared to Europe.

TGB! 11-20-2004 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bukdez
decency is in the eye of the beholder...

Which has never been debated. Legislation of morality is NOTHING new. Community standards have exsisted for years. Its why murder, multiple marraiges, pedophilia, bestiality, robbery, etc - are illegal.

Yet I dont see anyone complaining when someone is prosecuted for murdering another person of for molesting children.

Godsmack 11-20-2004 02:44 PM

Censorship is wrong... its just wrong annoy:

Fireal 11-20-2004 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GODSMACK
Censorship is wrong... its just wrong annoy:

It is far from wrong.

tomxtr 11-20-2004 03:28 PM

[quote="TGB!":8bced]There was no ABC movie problem (they self-censored themselves - and the FCC went out and said they would have had no problem with SPR airing) and Howard Stern CROSSED the line of decency which is spelled out in the laws set in 1979. He HAD It coming 9MM - for years. . .its just he enjoyed quite a bit of protection under Clintons FCC. . .what if someone put up hate speech against you and your family - and they said "ahh cmon - its just in good fun" - would you accept that? Or would you want some justice.[/quote:8bced]

What bothers me about the FCC is that they claim not to regulate the media, but respond to complaints filed after the fact. I heard just the opposite as far as SPR was concerned. Some of the affiliates were trying to get the FCC to grant permission to air the program, and they refused. The affiliates that chose not to air the program weren't self-censoring themselves because that's what they wanted to do, they were simply trying to avoid the fallout if the FCC decided, in their wisdom, that the material was inappropriate.

As far as Howard Stern is concerned, I think he is unfairly targeted. As others have said, decency is very subjective. Whether you think he is decent or not, I think he should be treated the same as others. Oprah got away with airing a segment where teens were discussing sex and they were talking about rainbows or some shit, where girls put on different color lipstick and suck dudes dicks all night. The FCC did not crack down on Oprah, but they lower the boom on Stern for things far less graphic. The reason is that the religious right organizes campaigns to file complaints against Stern and beloved Oprah some how gets a pass.

I guess my point is that if you are going to set decency standards, everyone should abide by them and be treated fairly. This crap about only responding to complaints is BS.

And Michael Powell's (fcc chairman), quote about Walt Disney not being proud of ABC made me want to puke. spank:

Mr.Buttocks 11-20-2004 04:14 PM

I've reported this thread to the FCC. nag:

Short Hand 11-20-2004 04:36 PM

As Stern said on Letterman, He was fined for saying words such as penis, cock, while on an episode of Oprah the exact same things were said, when he asked why was he fined and not oprah.. they said "Your Not Beloved". what a fucking laugh.

imported_Grim_Reaper 11-20-2004 05:02 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":56abd]I've reported this thread to the FCC. nag:[/quote:56abd]
lmao.

TGB! 11-20-2004 06:23 PM

[quote=tomxtr]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "TGB!":44975
There was no ABC movie problem (they self-censored themselves - and the FCC went out and said they would have had no problem with SPR airing) and Howard Stern CROSSED the line of decency which is spelled out in the laws set in 1979. He HAD It coming 9MM - for years. . .its just he enjoyed quite a bit of protection under Clintons FCC. . .what if someone put up hate speech against you and your family - and they said "ahh cmon - its just in good fun" - would you accept that? Or would you want some justice.

What bothers me about the FCC is that they claim not to regulate the media, but respond to complaints filed after the fact. I heard just the opposite as far as SPR was concerned. Some of the affiliates were trying to get the FCC to grant permission to air the program, and they refused. The affiliates that chose not to air the program weren't self-censoring themselves because that's what they wanted to do, they were simply trying to avoid the fallout if the FCC decided, in their wisdom, that the material was inappropriate.

As far as Howard Stern is concerned, I think he is unfairly targeted. As others have said, decency is very subjective. Whether you think he is decent or not, I think he should be treated the same as others. Oprah got away with airing a segment where teens were discussing sex and they were talking about rainbows or some shit, where girls put on different color lipstick and suck dudes dicks all night. The FCC did not crack down on Oprah, but they lower the boom on Stern for things far less graphic. The reason is that the religious right organizes campaigns to file complaints against Stern and beloved Oprah some how gets a pass.

I guess my point is that if you are going to set decency standards, everyone should abide by them and be treated fairly. This crap about only responding to complaints is BS.

And Michael Powell's (fcc chairman), quote about Walt Disney not being proud of ABC made me want to puke. spank:[/quote:44975]

Dunno where you read that about the FCC but its wrong. If anyone at the FCC made such a comment they sure werent speaking for the entire agency. Just like the Supremes cant make a ruling on something BEFORE it happens, neither can the FCC. It has to look at the context of how the situation is framed which is why Stern gets it in the ass in Oprah doesnt. SERIOUSLY do you think Stern is innocent in all this? His material does NOT belong on the air at the time he is. . .he could choose to move his program to late night - but he doesnt. Why? Money. Bottom line. Hes not concerned about "free speech" - hes concerned about being the "King Of Shock Rock" - and he cant be the King of shit if hes on at a later time. The FCC has said NUMEROUS times that their rulings are often reflected on the overall context the shows are presented in. . .which is why Oprah did not get fined. . .not because shes freaking "beloved".

Honestly I'd be pissed if Stern was even half as funny as he thought he was - if youve seen one Stern show recently than youve seen them all.


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