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Coleman 11-29-2004 06:23 PM

What's your take
 
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I really do think sometimes people are insane for taking "Seperation of Church and State" totally word for word. Christmas concerts can't even mention the word God...wtf is the point of the concert then!?

I'm sorry, but society has distorted the whole Christmas holiday. It's about religion, not just about giving gifts and crap of that sort.

Sergeant_Scrotum 11-29-2004 06:30 PM

I dont see the jews not talking about celibrating hanauka incase they offend people. Not that im trying to pick on the jews im just saying its the same with every religion except christanity. That your not supposed to specifiy christmas due to offending someone. Anyways I hate PC.... wallbash:

1080jibber 11-29-2004 06:34 PM

go to a christian school, problem solved

Coleman 11-29-2004 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1080jibber
go to a christian school, problem solved

i'm not sure if everyone can afford $6,000/yr for private christian schools. You have to remember that the people that send their children to a private christian school pay for that school's tuition on top of the normal taxes that the public school parent would pay. it does get to be pretty expensive.



Do you all think that putting God in a poem is really something terrible? Why do people make such a big deal about these things?

Mr.Buttocks 11-29-2004 06:40 PM

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":4e125]I dont see the jews not talking about celibrating hanauka incase they offend people. Not that im trying to pick on the jews im just saying its the same with every religion except christanity. That your not supposed to specifiy christmas due to offending someone. Anyways I hate PC.... wallbash:[/quote:4e125]

We get that shit here in the UK. Some towns in England aren't calling it "Christmas" in case it offends non-Christians. Idiots. annoy:

Sgt. Paine 11-29-2004 06:41 PM

People who care that much, should go to a Jew school or say a jew prayre or some shit.

Coleman 11-29-2004 06:42 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":4d0d0][quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":4d0d0]I dont see the jews not talking about celibrating hanauka incase they offend people. Not that im trying to pick on the jews im just saying its the same with every religion except christanity. That your not supposed to specifiy christmas due to offending someone. Anyways I hate PC.... wallbash:[/quote:4d0d0]

We get that shit here in the UK. Some towns in England aren't calling it "Christmas" in case it offends non-Christians. Idiots. annoy:[/quote:4d0d0]Yep, my school can't call it a "Christmas concert". It has to be refered to as the "Holiday Concert".

ninty 11-29-2004 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by 1080jibber
go to a christian school, problem solved

i'm not sure if everyone can afford $6,000/yr for private christian schools.



Do you all think that putting God in a poem is really something terrible? Why do people make such a big deal about these things?

In Alberta there is a Public school system and a seperate school system. The seperate school system teaches religion in school and isn't more expensive or any different from the public school system. You only have to have 1 christian parent. Maybe you guys should start something like that.

If she were muslum and she had put allah in it, there would be a big fuss also.

There's nothing terrible about it, it's just trying to be sensitive to everyone. Religion isn't taught in public schools because all religions go there. pretty simple to me.

and the whole thing with calling it christmas, who cares? i don't give a fuck what you call it. why should it bother me? you guys are losing sleep over nothing.

North America is a melting pot. it isn't 16th century france or england.

I don't think making her take out God is right, i think its stupid. but tolerance of other religions is needed.

Coleman 11-29-2004 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ninty9
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by 1080jibber
go to a christian school, problem solved

i'm not sure if everyone can afford $6,000/yr for private christian schools.



Do you all think that putting God in a poem is really something terrible? Why do people make such a big deal about these things?

In Alberta there is a Public school system and a seperate school system. The seperate school system teaches religion in school and isn't more expensive or any different from the public school system. You only have to have 1 christian parent. Maybe you guys should start something like that.

If she were muslum and she had put allah in it, there would be a big fuss also.

There's nothing terrible about it, it's just trying to be sensitive to everyone. Religion isn't taught in public schools because all religions go there. pretty simple to me.

and the whole thing with calling it christmas, who cares? i don't give a fuck what you call it. why should it bother me? you guys are losing sleep over nothing.

North America is a melting pot. it isn't 16th century france or england.

how are those religious schools funded? Are then ran by normal tax dollars?

Sgt. Paine 11-29-2004 06:47 PM

But i mean god damn guys it was a 10 year old! At that age they do not understand totally that some people who read it find it offensive. I can certainly tellyou that, i was never thinking about someone else's feelings when writing a poem about something i had to interpret in my own words.



Its wrong to fuck a kid over like that. Its their words, let them put the words they want on that piece of paper.

Jin-Roh 11-29-2004 06:48 PM

Go secularism! dance:

ninty 11-29-2004 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by ninty9
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by 1080jibber
go to a christian school, problem solved

i'm not sure if everyone can afford $6,000/yr for private christian schools.



Do you all think that putting God in a poem is really something terrible? Why do people make such a big deal about these things?

In Alberta there is a Public school system and a seperate school system. The seperate school system teaches religion in school and isn't more expensive or any different from the public school system. You only have to have 1 christian parent. Maybe you guys should start something like that.

If she were muslum and she had put allah in it, there would be a big fuss also.

There's nothing terrible about it, it's just trying to be sensitive to everyone. Religion isn't taught in public schools because all religions go there. pretty simple to me.

and the whole thing with calling it christmas, who cares? i don't give a fuck what you call it. why should it bother me? you guys are losing sleep over nothing.

North America is a melting pot. it isn't 16th century france or england.

how are those religious schools funded? Are then ran by normal tax dollars?

If you support the public school system, your tax dollars go to the public system. If you support the seperate school system, your taxes go to the seperate system.

In canada we also have a thing called government subsidies. Something conservatives don't like too much. The government of Alberta puts money into education, both public and seperate. The public system gets a lot more tax dollars and government money because more people are in the public system.

Just so you know I went to a seperate school for my entire school life. I took religion in school for 13 years. The quality of education in the seperate system is also better than in the public system, or so they say, so if I had the choice, i'd send my kid to the seperate system, and tell them to make their own mind up about religion.

The thing I don't like about christian schools is that kids are impressionable. if you tell them something for 13 years, more than likley they are going to believe it, and not really think for themselves. That is what i'm afraid of, and thats the only thing I don't like about that system.

harpua 11-29-2004 06:54 PM

Re: What's your take
 
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Originally Posted by Coleman
I'm sorry, but society has distorted the whole Christmas holiday. It's about religion, not just about giving gifts and crap of that sort.

damnstraight rock: imwithstupid:

Coleman 11-29-2004 06:55 PM

that sounds like a neat idea, but the american system could never switch over to something like that. Congress would be in deadlock for years and years.

Short Hand 11-29-2004 07:01 PM

meh.

snipes 11-29-2004 07:24 PM

[quote=ninty9]
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by ninty9
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by "1080jibber":2f1b1
go to a christian school, problem solved

i'm not sure if everyone can afford $6,000/yr for private christian schools.



Do you all think that putting God in a poem is really something terrible? Why do people make such a big deal about these things?

In Alberta there is a Public school system and a seperate school system. The seperate school system teaches religion in school and isn't more expensive or any different from the public school system. You only have to have 1 christian parent. Maybe you guys should start something like that.

If she were muslum and she had put allah in it, there would be a big fuss also.

There's nothing terrible about it, it's just trying to be sensitive to everyone. Religion isn't taught in public schools because all religions go there. pretty simple to me.

and the whole thing with calling it christmas, who cares? i don't give a fuck what you call it. why should it bother me? you guys are losing sleep over nothing.

North America is a melting pot. it isn't 16th century france or england.

how are those religious schools funded? Are then ran by normal tax dollars?

If you support the public school system, your tax dollars go to the public system. If you support the seperate school system, your taxes go to the seperate system.

In canada we also have a thing called government subsidies. Something conservatives don't like too much. The government of Alberta puts money into education, both public and seperate. The public system gets a lot more tax dollars and government money because more people are in the public system.

Just so you know I went to a seperate school for my entire school life. I took religion in school for 13 years. The quality of education in the seperate system is also better than in the public system, or so they say, so if I had the choice, i'd send my kid to the seperate system, and tell them to make their own mind up about religion.

The thing I don't like about christian schools is that kids are impressionable. if you tell them something for 13 years, more than likley they are going to believe it, and not really think for themselves. That is what i'm afraid of, and thats the only thing I don't like about that system.[/quote:2f1b1]

Agreed.

pest 11-29-2004 07:56 PM

I get offended that these asshats are teaching our children.

Mr.Buttocks 11-29-2004 07:59 PM

I respect the beliefs of the MOLEMAN.

Short Hand 11-29-2004 08:02 PM

The Religion teachers at my old high school RFHall, were extremely left/liberal. They weren't cracy catholic coots, they were the best teachers I had in my life (yes the religion teachers). They opened up a lot of things never really thought about, Instead of learning about the last days of jesus, we did things in class such as social justice, and other issues of the wrorld. To tell you the truth, it wasn' a religion class at all. Just some great people doing great things in a catholic high school.

Coleman 11-29-2004 08:17 PM

[quote="Short Hand":d74b7]The Religion teachers at my old high school RFHall, were extremely left/liberal. They weren't cracy catholic coots, they were the best teachers I had in my life (yes the religion teachers). They opened up a lot of things never really thought about, Instead of learning about the last days of jesus, we did things in class such as social justice, and other issues of the wrorld. To tell you the truth, it wasn' a religion class at all. Just some great people doing great things in a catholic high school.[/quote:d74b7]you must have been raped by a priest in catholic highschool...that's the only reason why I could see you being so hostile against catholics.

Zoner 11-30-2004 06:53 AM

I'm sure as hell not going to stop saying Merry Christmas just because non-christians would get their panties in a knot.

If a jewish dude comes up to me and wishes me a Happy Hannukah, that'd be awesome. Right back atcha, pal...enjoy...Mazeltov! I'll wish HIM a Merry Christmas. If he doesn't like it, he's an asshole.

People are fucking stupid sometimes.

Wilko 11-30-2004 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoner
I'm sure as hell not going to stop saying Merry Christmas just because non-christians would get their panties in a knot.

If a jewish dude comes up to me and wishes me a Happy Hannukah, that'd be awesome. Right back atcha, pal...enjoy...Mazeltov! I'll wish HIM a Merry Christmas. If he doesn't like it, he's an asshole.

People are fucking stupid sometimes.

Over-political correctness wallbash:

Zoner 11-30-2004 07:27 AM

No doubt, man. Makes me sick.

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Wilko 11-30-2004 07:39 AM

Agreed, whole-heartedly...

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...as does Mr. Creosote biggrin:

Zoner 11-30-2004 07:52 AM

HAW HAW HAWW!

"...and don't skimp on the paté!"

Pyro 11-30-2004 09:33 AM

Good. Though I don't see anything wrong with saying God in songs, I just like the steps taken to make religion absolete. Jewish people own though.


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