New ATI series
 

Today, graphics manufacturer ATI announced its new Radeon X850 series and two new Radeon X800 video cards. The new Radeon X850 series includes the $399 Radeon X850 Pro, the $499 Radeon X850 XT, and the $549 Radeon X850 XT Platinum Edition. The Radeon X850 XT and the Radeon XT Platinum Edition replace the Radeon X800 XT and X800 PE cards as ATI's two fastest video cards.

ATI also introduced two technology demos at its Radeon X850 series launch event held last night in San Francisco. The Ruby "Dangerous Curves" demo places the ATI heroine in a tunnel chase scene where she must fight off robotic pursuit droids. Crytek was also on hand to show a new demo titled The Project built on the CryEngine--which serves as an extended prologue to the Far Cry story.

The new Radeon X850 series consists primarily of incremental engine and memory clock speed increases, but improved manufacturing techniques should help increase product availability which has been a problem with the sometimes hard to find Radeon X800 XT PE.

All of the new cards feature the Radeon X series technology which includes 3Dc for normal map compression technology, advanced GDDR3 memory, and Pixel Shader 2.x support, and hardware video processing. Specific card variations will also offer dual-DVI output to support multiple LCD displays as well as video-in, video-out capabilities.

ATI has also expanded its Radeon X800 line with the Radeon X800 XL and the Radeon X800. The two new Radeon X800 series cards, priced at $249 and $349 respectively, will compete directly with Nvidia's $299 GeForce 6800 and $399 GeForce 6800 GT cards.

The new ATI video cards will initially only be available in PCI Express format. ATI has not announced AGP versions yet, but industry observers expect to see units in the first quarter of 2005.

The Radeon X800 XT PE is shipping now, and the rest of the cards should begin shipping late December to early January

Source: http://www.halflifesource.com

owned.

pff..just wait till the new NV4* series comes out for nvidia...

shows how fickle the graphics card market is, can't say i feel sorry for the people who fork out £500 for a card only for it to be out of date a week later.
I mean its good that the market progresses quickly but some PC company should (if they haven't already) offer a deal where they update your PC's components every 1-2 years, for a yearly price. Is that not a good offer?

Obviously there'd be complications but so much money gets wasted on these kinda things.... spank:

agreed, im sick of PCI-Express only cards. Now i have to update my mobo, and get a new p/s for a new video card.

Goodbye AGP cry:

im just going to wait and see what akuma and gerv think of em

The 850xt is basically a pci-e version off the x800 its like 5 fps faster in some games, cores only 40mhz faster. Better off waiting till next march or so for the new nvidia and ati cards, x850 isn't really new.

i didnt think so, but i deff need a new mobo, because my current one has 2 PCI slots and 1 AGP 8x Slot. I wonder what the x800 XL is iike though

its funny how nvidia doesnt drop to its lower fps than ati does even though the reccommended GPU for HL2 is ATI
http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njk3LDU=

but i see why, because of its high framerates....

The lower fps thing is because of the hl2 "stuttering" issues, min fps in those graphs doesn't really mean much because the stuttering would be dropping the min fps much lower than they would usualy get to, average is what really counts, as long as its 60fps or over, high fps for bragging rights

Yeah thats true, I was going to edit what I said because I feel dumb now oOo:
Pic of your system again gerv biggrin: rock:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... hydro3.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... tlight.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... hydro1.jpg
offtopic:

Note:Not off topic because you have a x800Xt PE..And by your expierience you can say if its worth it or not to buy an x850 or not biggrin:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... r/sys3.jpg happy:



Dunno really, its pci express and agp is being phased out, if you're looking to upgrade your system then at the minute for single videocard use in d3d the x850-pe is the fastest out there, nvidia usually have an edge in open gl, games like doom 3 quake 3 cod etc. Everyones gonna have tp upgrade to pci-e soon enough, can;t really go wrong with x850 at the minute for a high end card.

meh...get the x800 pro i say...get maybe 20 fps less at max than those...and will only be like what ...300 when that comes out...plus can be modded to an x800 xt regular with its 12 pipelines and the unused 4 pipelines and just unlock those and there ya go....:Note: it has to be a ViVo x800 pro... meaning video in video out rock:

gerard if i lived near you id steal your system happy:

Meh.. what's it going to cost to upgrade to a mobo that can handle PCI-e and what's the P/S reqs?

bdfi

They'll cost pretty much what a regular agp brand name one would cost at the minute, like $120 or so, unless you want dual pci-e slots for nvidia sli or ati sli when its available, those will cost more.

hellfire: plzdie: loney:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 127&depa=0

Socket 478 PCI-E mobo (the kind i need if i want PCI-E), only 95$

not bad.

3 FPS and a double slot cooler.

Nice refresh, ATI. It's even worse than the 9800 Pro -> 9800XT.

It was for yield improvements at the fabrication plant which would = more availability, wasn't for frame rate improvement.

But they could has easily increased the clock speeds further and finally break the tie of highend cards.

The core on that x800 series has reached its limits for normal cooling, mine tops out at around 535mhz with artic cooling from a default of 520mhz, unless you go to extreme cooling like watercooling or some kinda compressor the x850 probably won't clock that much faster either.

To get any real difference out of it they woulda had to have the core at least 100mhz faster and on stock cooling i dont think it could acheive that.

Hence the r5xx around april or so biggrin:

I am just thinking of maybe using 2 midrange cards in a sli setup. little bit more then a top range card, shiould be a significant performance boost.

Oh joy, I can't wait for the tech forums to flood with speculation of the new cores.... eek:


There are rumors that the NV50 got canned... I wonder what Nvidia is up too.

i only pop into hardforum now for help & THE car forums.

[quote="Short Hand":ecb9f]I am just thinking of maybe using 2 midrange cards in a sli setup. little bit more then a top range card, shiould be a significant performance boost.[/quote:ecb9f]

I really don't think sli is all that, its still in initial stages though, one benchmark i seen showed 2 geforce 6800 ultras in sli beating xn x800xt-pe in halflife 2 by a massive.........8fps eek:

A lot to do with cpu power as well, lot of the sites have said the cpu is bottlenecking the cards from giveing more of a performance boost.

One of my main gripes is for sli to work on games nvidia have to release a "profile" for that game which tells the gpu's how to render it. Plus some games refuse to work with it. Its still in its infancy though, if its not just something they release for one card line then it can expand a shitload, only obstacle then is the price for the high end cards.

Just as long as people don't expect double the performance, the mainstream will be thinking 100fps with one card = 200fps with 2 cards, nvidia say an "upto" 80% or so performance increase, so its not gonna double your framerate, probably boost it by around 40-50 fps on average depending on game, settings, res etc, hopefully that improves as they advance more with it.

Seen that on the inq, the speculation surrounding that is nvidia would like people to adopt to sli rather than them bringing out a slightly faster card so soon after pimping sli as the next big thing.

I am waiting until mid next year for my new sysytem, by then, I am sure the technology will have significantly increased.

yep by then computers should be flying...

what good would a flying computer do?

fuck dude, you take everything much too literally. hake:

wow, it seems as if i have just read 3 pages of Yiddish. ed:

i know

They already have that. Just put 2 Vantec Tornados in a SFF case...