Rocket hits US base...
 

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

damn.

"killed more than 20 people and wounded 57" This is like Vietnam all over again, couple people killed today, couple more tomorrow...it all adds up. mad:

i dont think i would compare it to vietnam ... asia people are much better at war.

Yeah, well...there has been more than 1/3 of the total people killed on 9/11 dead in Iraq.

Fuck, I hate seeing shit like this.

sucks

how long till a movie on the event comes out?

Well, bush asked for it. Too bad everybody but Bush has to pay the price.

That is even worse for the iraqi insergents because now they are gonna be unloaded with a lot of hot lead.

EDIT: There is no price on lives, so there is no price that bush has to pay, he just keeps on doing it until the war is over. I dont know why people think it is bush's fault for everything.

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":8e350]how long till a movie on the event comes out?[/quote:8e350]See Harrison Ford enlists for Falluja Epic thread.

RIP

Bush has their blood on his hands.

people die during wars. stfu .

the media plays such a large role in today's society. Back in WWII, the media was filled with propaganda. Without that propaganda we definately wouldn't have had the home support that we did. You didn't really hear about 'controversial' wars until Vietnam. Why? Well that's due to the damn media reporting every single death. In my opinion, the media needs to get the hell out of these wars. I know I know, the military has asked many of the news agencies to put reporters there with the soldiers for documentary purposes. But I still don't think it's worth risking homeland support.

Thats a damn shame for sure. I'm saddened by hearing the news on TV today. RIP soldiers.

On another note, some of you people need to stop blaming one man for everything going on in the world today. We have something called a "Congress" who actually votes on major decisions such as if we should go to war. Bush is really a political puppet

Fine, may all the congress die just like the soliders they sent to their deatsh.

i agree with you.

Thats more like it Pyro.

Yeah that's right......we can't have the "We Support the Troops" flag waving "war cheerleaders" at home actually seeing dead bodies. Poor souls. annoy:

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":d6640]
Yeah that's right......we can't have the "We Support the Troops" flag waving "war cheerleaders" at home actually seeing dead bodies. Poor souls. annoy:[/quote:d6640]I'd rather come home from work to see good news being reported rather than hearing about 2 people dying every day even if the news leaned to a side that promoted the war.

[quote=Coleman]I'd rather come home from work to see good news being reported rather than hearing about 2 people dying every day even if the news leaned to a side that promoted the war.[/quote:fe54e]

Thats messed up. oOo:

Your essentially saying that the government could do whatever they want, and say everything went well, even though everything didn't go well, and you'd rather be led to believe everything is going fine.

Sounds like 1984 where when they switch sides in the war and they erase all evidence of that and say they were always at war with eurasia.

If everyone in the US thought like that, 1984 must not be far off now. oOo: oOo: oOo: oOo:

You can have good news and bad news reported at the same time. Ignoring one or the other is not wise in my opinion.

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Just a question to anyone who wants to answer:

Do you believe that the Vietnam war, and the Iraq war can be compared to World war II?

Vietnam was more or less about the spread of Communism. Iraq, well I don't know what this war is about. I thought it was about weapons of mass destruction.

My opinion is that if a war is justified, most people wouldn't have a problem fighting it.

Hitler was killing millions of people. Hitler took over all of western europe.
Saddam was killion thousands of civilians. Didn'ty really take over any countries, except for the gulf war, but even the UN supported action there.

Ask yourself if there is a difference between these causes for war. You may say yes, you may say no.

I can see similarities between Hitler and Saddam. However, there has to be a line drawn somewhere. If were out to get dictators, man there are a lot of them out there. Are we really going to invade each country that has a dictator as a leader? Is that our right and duty to do so? Or is it the responsibilty of the people who live there to do it? What if those people don't want change? What gives us the right to change it for them? Do you not think that if another country invaded your home country, you'd fight the occupation? I know I would. These are questions I ahve pondered. And from these questions I draw my conclusions.

All in all, I see WWII as a justified fight. Countries had been occupied. Populations exterminated.

I don't see those particulars happening in Vietnam or Iraq to an extent that justifies war in my mind. And that is why I think we see negative press. I know a lot of people feel the same way I do. I think if Iraq had nuked israel, and saddams tanks were marching into kuwait and iran, then the world would respond in a sufficient manner. I odn't think the world sees what happened leading up to the iraq war as justification for the actions taken. I believe those are the underlying principals.

Insurgents moral must have doubled after hearing the news of that.

EDIT: Stick to topic please

-Arkan

EDIT: Not appropriate for this thread.

-Arkan

sitting ducks hake:


the wars over but the iraqis wont rest til the americans etc are out of their country

This is the price for war unfortuantely. I wouldn't call this a tragedy, more like occupational hazard. However it wasnt a necessary one, they could have been better protected in that tent.

are you fucking kidding me ?

Funny how they get all pissy about a Foreign army coming into their country and throwing missiles at Baghdad willy-nilly, and putting in an obviously puppet leader.

Fucking sissies need to learn to get over shit, and stop doing dumb crap like attacking their occupiers.

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damn shitty war!
can't there be love and peace instead of shooting and killing annoy:

[quote="Short Hand":e3f9d]are you fucking kidding me ?[/quote:e3f9d]did i put the [/kidding] brackets in? I think not.

Update: It was believed to be a suicide bomber, according to ahem..CNN

[quote=ninty9]Thats messed up. oOo:

Your essentially saying that the government could do whatever they want, and say everything went well, even though everything didn't go well, and you'd rather be led to believe everything is going fine.

[/quote:f08c1]I never said that I'd like to only hear good stuff comming back from Iraq and Afghanistan. I said that I am sick and tired of hearing about every single death that is reported. If they would flip it around and talk about more good things then negative (which is not lying to the people. It's just changing the overall ratio bewteen positive/negative). People think i'm crazy because I said that I wanted to hear positive things. All anyone ever thinks about are the negatives because that gives them a reason to go Bush-bashing yadda yadda yadda.

Again, I never said I only want to hear positives while the government is free to do what they want. The media leans to the left about the war (for the most part) and I would just like to see it change to come back to center or come to the right and report good things along with the bad.

The media is ALOT more war friendly than anti-war.

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come to canada and see the difference between your media and ours. You'll see how much America media cuts down to make the war seem like a good thing.

Exactly what news are you watching?

I agree with Coleman, I wish the media would report not just on the bad, but the good. The troops need a morale boost, and we need to help them.

Call your cable company and tell them the only news channel you want is fox.

Heh, they are useless too. Modern Media is crap.

I watched some documentary is pop culture class that said like out of 100 interviews on all network news channels....97 were pro war and 3 were poltical activists. Very fair I would say...anti war never get news time.

since we are staying on our positions very firmly (shutteth thy hole buttocks lol biggrin: ), I do think there is a difference in our media and such. I just don't see how you think conservatives have the upper hand in politics (i remember you thinking the media was biased for conservatives in another thread).