Since I live about 38,000 ft away from the nearest CO pretty much everything is not available for my area except iDSL. Ive tried calling the cable company but they told me that they have not started on there cable internet and will so in about a year (same thing they said 3 years ago). Well Ive been emailed several iDSl offers all averaging to about $200 for installation $300 for parts and $90 a month. Ill post direct links if you guys want. Well iDSL cost more because it is harder to make available since im so far way from the CO. It is also slower (144k believe). My friend told me that he can install it for me and possibly buy the parts for it to make that cheaper. I would like to know if that is possible. I would also like to is this iDSl is at all worth all this trouble. For me it is border line because that is a lot of money ,but lets face it 56k cant do shit. Your opnions are welcome and thanks for taking a look.

I hate to sound like an ass but please post this in the Technical forum or off-topic forum next time.

Anyway I am on DSL and it IS worth it. I am NEVER going back to 56k! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

You ARE sounding like an ass, and there is no technical specific forum. The individual has a "general question" regarding the performance of connection-packages - a question he'd no doubt like answered in light of his wanting to play the game in MP mode.

If we are going by your logic - your whining double posts concerning "snipers" should really have been placed in the MODS forum - shouldnt it?

FALCOLN my boy - look into Satellite. Might be a better, and cheaper way to go for you.

mazel my tov

cerebrl thanks for the reply, do you know where I can find some info on that? Or maybe you can just tell me some quick info on it like the speed , reliability, cost? thnaks again for the reply

Falcon:

I was initially told I was too far frm the switching office to get DSL. A few months later, the pho co' called and said I qualified.

Who said you're too far frm the s/o? I'd re-check that. Get an official reply frm the tele' co'.

Also go to this site and check and see if you can find a company to serve you.
http://www.dslreports.com/

Your mentioned option sounds a bit expensive. However, if you want it go for it.

Also, there is satellite sevice but I'm not sure if it works with on-line gaming.

The guys at DSL Reports are experts at various options. Get in their tech boards.



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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
You ARE sounding like an ass, and there is no technical specific forum. The individual has a "general question" regarding the performance of connection-packages - a question he'd no doubt like answered in light of his wanting to play the game in MP mode.

You are really starting to piss me off big time. AA.net has a techn forum so I guess I got confused. Anyway

If we are going by your logic - your whining double posts concerning "snipers" should really have been placed in the MODS forum - shouldnt it?

FALCOLN my boy - look into Satellite. Might be a better, and cheaper way to go for you.

mazel my tov<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You are really starting to piss me off big time. AA.net has a techn forum so I guess I got confused. Anyway even if there was a tech forum I POLITLY ask him to post there next time.

And you know what? He ask if DSL was worth it, and I said yes.

And why must you bring Snipers into this?
It is irrevalent to what he was asking. Hell, did you even answer his question? NO
All you did was flame me and I believe initiating flame wars is against the Code of Conduct.
And instead of calling people idiots, morons, ect you could be more polite in you're post.

BTW I woulden't get Satellite for online gameing. It is faster in theroy but often has extreamly high pings. At least thats what I know.
Take Arclight's advice and visit DSLReports, they are a great resource of information on the subject!

In anycase good luck!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>just curious, why would XP give "unspeakable" pings?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You tell me since no one else can. As fas as I know, since getting AOL DSL, and connecting through Windows XP, theres been nothing but troubles. And strangely - most has been XP in origin.

1.) Connectivity. The first few weeks I had this service, I was getting CONTINUALLY dropped of off my signal, because XP kept on reporting an unplugged network cable (I was using a USB modem). XP apperantly doesn't work well with USB devices, and was looking for a Network Card, when it should have been looking for the modem. I got a WESTELL, problem solved - or so it would seem.

2.) I got this game, MOH - tried to connect. Nasty ass ping. Im talking "a*ss-raping" pings in the 500-999 range. Unacceptable for someone supposedly running DSL. Called AOL; first guy told me I had a "High-Speed" connection, so I would be getting a "High-Ping". Fine. Do some research, find the opposite. Have techs come out to check the line. They remove a bridge-tap thats on the line. Doesn't do anything. One day, I switch over to my hard-drive with ME on it. For giggles I run MOH to pass the time. Smooth (well not incredibly, but better - other games run perfect however). Back on to XP - same deal, high ping in MOH - connectivity issues in RTCW. 2000 ping in HALF LIFE.

So, just led me to the conclusion that either my settings were all fuqqed in XP, or that XP just doesn't work well with broadband software.

mazel tov

i run XP with my sdsl with no problems at all. In counterstrike i have gamespy filter out every server that pings over 50 to me and i still have over 300 servers to choose from.

some problems i see.

NEVER use anything USB for conectivity.

NEVER user aol.

I use megapath and have great service through them. I ping 10-20 to alot of counterstrike servers. i ping 20 to my MoH server.

Its not XP you have other problems. I wouldnt use AOL if you paid me, so im not sure why youre using them heh.

The reason for the sporatic service in some areas is that the first generation DSLAM (Digital Subcriber Line Access Module) located in the central offices have to use the imbedded cable plant in the field. Some of this cable is good. (no bad splices, load coils, bridge taps or multigauge wiring) There would be nothing in the copper to impede the transmission of the signal. Other cable is not so good...Trouble is..Even though your getting DSL from the Telco's, your dealing with two entities. Their's the regulated side of the house which deals in dial tone and the unregulated with deals with DSL..By FCC law, the regulated side controls the local loop and won't jump to any hoops to correct a bad loop, unless you perform an executive appeal. The Second generation of pseudo DSLAM's will be located in outside Cabinets in the outlying areas..This is called the PRONTO project...This takes time and money to change throughout the country.

The reason for the sporatic service in some areas is that the first generation DSLAM (Digital Subcriber Line Access Module) located in the central offices have to use the imbedded cable plant in the field. Some of this cable is good. (no bad splices, load coils, bridge taps or multigauge wiring) There would be nothing in the copper to impede the transmission of the signal. Other cable is not so good...Trouble is..Even though your getting DSL from the Telco's, your dealing with two entities. Their's the regulated side of the house which deals in dial tone and the unregulated with deals with DSL..By FCC law, the regulated side controls the local loop and won't jump to any hoops to correct a bad loop, unless you perform an executive appeal. The Second generation of pseudo DSLAM's will be located in outside Cabinets in the outlying areas..This is called the PRONTO project...This takes time and money to change throughout the country.

First off..NEVER EVER use AOL and any DSL/Cable internet connection together, never even have them on the same PC. AOL corrupts the TCP/IP stacks of other ISP's then it screws its own. $90 a month is a little high for DSL, unless that is the regular in your area, here in Texas it is about $40 a month. Go here for more details on what is available in your area.
http://www.broadbandcompass.com/sear...kymountainnews




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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snake2222:
First off..NEVER EVER use AOL and any DSL/Cable internet connection together, never even have them on the same PC. AOL corrupts the TCP/IP stacks of other ISP's then it screws its own. $90 a month is a little high for DSL, unless that is the regular in your area, here in Texas it is about $40 a month.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>IDSL is always around 80-90 dollars.

i pay 99 a month for 1.1meg/1.1meg sdsl

adsl is usually 40ish

I'm certain AOL is also a cause of the high ping - however, I cant just discount that everything works more kosher on ME than on XP. But truly, AOL goes through a 3rd party to get me the DSL, where as I could just go through PAC BELL or EARTHLINK which is appearantly more gamer friendly.

excelsior

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
I'm certain AOL is also a cause of the high ping - however, I cant just discount that everything works more kosher on ME than on XP. But truly, AOL goes through a 3rd party to get me the DSL, where as I could just go through PAC BELL or EARTHLINK which is appearantly more gamer friendly.

excelsior<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
in my experience. there are only 2 isps worth going to with dsl

megapath and speakeasy

if you dont want to go through them go direct to your local bell. The service will suck, but itll give you better quality than a discount isp can. Earthlink is garbage, they are getting way to AOL like.

I used to do DSL/Cable tech support for SouthWestern Bell and Road Runner. IDSL is long reach DSL, the reason it costs so much is that you are on the fringe of not being within range and have to have a booster put in. ADSL is just regular DSL depending on the company will determine speeds.

I'm only familiar with the services most folks talk about and are economically feasible in my eye. 100 bucks a month isnt bad - BUT - I wouldn't get much use out of it. Games, yea thats great, but 100 dollars worth. I dunno. All I play now is MOH, and RTCW, and maybe HALF LIFE (cant really get into this game - graphics are a BIG turn off to me).

And I've heard those things about EARTHLINK as well - but its gotta be better than AOL. What about DirectTV?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
Checking out SPEAKEASY right now - luckily they are available in my CITY at least, SACRAMENTO. MEGAPATH looked just a TAD bit too expensive for my tastes (talking about how many company sites I had...LOL - yea ok.

Any testimonials MAD?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>go to dslreports for testimonials.

im a bit biased towards megapth since i have a friend on the inside http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif but speakeasy is very gamer friendly.

megapath has new adsl specials...50 a month i think. all depends on your location really.

CA:

Dump AOL--take'em out the equation.

CA:

Get rid of AOL. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif



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Checking out SPEAKEASY right now - luckily they are available in my CITY at least, SACRAMENTO. MEGAPATH looked just a TAD bit too expensive for my tastes (talking about how many company sites I had...LOL - yea ok.

Any testimonials MAD?

The only reason I've even stuck with AOL is they have these wonderful PRIVATE ROOMS that beat mIRC as far as content is concerned. That and I've managed to get free AOL for the past 4 months (complaining about horrendous ping, and all that - since I've only just got into the gaming side in the past month it hasn't really been a problem for me).

That is really the ONLY reason I have to stay on AOL, and bear 150-300 pings (rarely get that on ME though).

But seriously - there HAS to be some reason I CANT even get connected on XP, but I'm at least able to get a functional ping on ME. Ideas. Anyone. Bueler.

shiv in the side: gift that keeps on giving

well if anyone would like to help in my search for high speed internet my zip is 33029 and my city is miramar. Can also try pembroke pines. this is all in Florida. And thanks to all for all the valuable information.

http://www.broadbandcompass.com/sear...kymountainnews

Go there to find broadband.

yea ive been to dsl reports.com but just to find isp's, guess ill search around for a forum in there. thanks again

no luck there, thanks anyway

I have to agree with Sh3ll.
Satellite is awfull for gaming.

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Try www.dslreports.com
Great site. I use ADSL and it ROCKS! 1.5 down and 250 up.

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It all depends on what you need the speed for. Satellite is great if all you do is download porn and mp3s. Mostly because its incoming (download) traffic rate is insanely high.

However, it sucks for online gaming, because its outgoing (upload) rate bites the big one.

Also - might wanna check into ISDN. In your situation, it might be better than getting DSL. I am BARELY covered by my phone company's CO. Which means I can just barely get DSL. Its great when it works, but it has a tendency to NOT work. Good thing I'm moving out soon. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Im not going to bother responding to SHELL missteps in figuring out the simplicity on why his requests for a "SNIPER MOD" be moved to the MOD section if we were following his rules - because I'm sure he knows he's wrong, as always - so it's all good.

As far as you are concerned FALCON - now I dont live in FLORIDA - but I dont think it's such a rural area, where broadband wouldn't be available at a reasonable price to you. That seems a little crazy to me. I would check AGAIN with the phone company, the cable company, AOL, EARTHLINK, DIRECT TV, and AT & T. One of those individuals HAS to provide you with some sort of reliable broadband service. Post your city and zip so maybe some folks who are more familiar with this service, can help you.

mazel my tov like the biyotch youse izz

i'm in NY and couldn't still am waiting for dsl (its coming soon they say) so it is very possible that not all areas in FL have dsl yet. The main reason i'm getting dsl is for lower pings so I hope my dsl is gonna have lower pings than i get now - ~220 on 56k.

Dont bet on it. Depending on who you get, and what OS you are using, it is very possible for you to get great downloads, and speed - but atrocious ping times. I know I have AOL DSL and have pings of 150 to 300 on some servers. And lets not even speak of the pings running Windows XP.

excelsior

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patton:
It all depends on what you need the speed for. Satellite is great if all you do is download porn and mp3s. Mostly because its incoming (download) traffic rate is insanely high.

However, it sucks for online gaming, because its outgoing (upload) rate bites the big one.

Also - might wanna check into ISDN. In your situation, it might be better than getting DSL. I am BARELY covered by my phone company's CO. Which means I can just barely get DSL. Its great when it works, but it has a tendency to NOT work. Good thing I'm moving out soon. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>just to spread the joy of information and i hate misinformation.

satelite sucks for gaming because of extreme latency not because the upstream is slow.

in some cases the upstream is a dialup modem, lately though, satelite has gone 2 way with both up and down satelite. It still suffers from latency problems though.

As for your isdn suggestion. IDSL is isdn so to speak. ISDN is 2d and 1 b channel(2 64K D channels 1 16K B channel). IDSL uses a different signaling scheme and thus can use all 3 channels over the exsisting ISDN backbone. IDSL is always better than isdn because it does away with per-minute charges and is obviously faster since isdn tops out at 128KBPS where as IDSL tops out at 144KBPS.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
Dont bet on it. Depending on who you get, and what OS you are using, it is very possible for you to get great downloads, and speed - but atrocious ping times. I know I have AOL DSL and have pings of 150 to 300 on some servers. And lets not even speak of the pings running Windows XP.

excelsior<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>just curious, why would XP give "unspeakable" pings?