Courtroom shooting
 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/11/atlan ... index.html

[quote:16a96]ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A defendant grabbed the pistol of a courtroom deputy, shot the deputy and fatally shot the judge and a court reporter Friday at a downtown Atlanta courthouse. The suspect then fled into the streets in a carjacked vehicle after killing another deputy outside the courthouse.[/quote:16a96]

just wow....how the fuk did they let that happen

live on cnn briefing

wtf....

video games made this man violent your honor!!1

was at lunch reading the news as usual and then refreshed the site and this story came on, pretty intense.

I will never be a judge, not because im scared of being shot, im just too dumb.

wow thats hardcore

Sorry for the Judge, Court stenographer, and Deputy's family for their loss.

I have a comment/opinion on what transpired. From what they're telling us, the suspect was brought before the judge charged with rape. Thats a serious crime which carries a hefty sentence. The suspect took advantage of a situation that, in my opinion, was helped caused by societies way of thinking. We all know the phrase: "Innocent before proven guilty in a court of law". It's just that, that may have contributed to what transpired this morning. This "innocent" man was brought before the court charged with a "violent" crime of rape. He undoubtly was not handcuffed while in the courthouse since the image of him being handcuffed may sway the court to believe he's guilty. He overpowered the only armed person in the room (Deputy Sheriff} and took the gun away, shooting the deputy in the process. Had the suspect been restraint in the 1st place (perhaps less visible leg irons), perhaps this killing never happens. The suspect took advantage of a "weak link" in custody and acted on it. I'm sure procedure in handling future suspects in that county will change........and for good reason i might add.

I think it's time we do away with "image" and worry about safety first. If EVERYONE was brought before the judge with restraints (even a DWI), then perhaps the stereo-typing won't be a factor when it comes time to determine guilt. This is only my opinion, and until someone else comes up with a better solution, i'm sticking to mine. (...and don't even suggest the Deputy be unarmed unless the court house is set up inside a prison where the suspect has no way of escaping once he decides to make a run for it.)

....on another thought, perhaps we have an unarmed court officer handling the suspect while an armed officer stands at the door? At least he'll have time to draw down on the suspect if he charges the door. I dunno.......thoughts??

Well from what I heard on CNN, the suspect was not exactly handcuffed the normal way behind the back, but was handcuffed in the front, so he would still have pretty good mobility. The suspect took the gun from the deputy sherriff (who was a woman, not saying anything wrong with that, just giving the facts) He then shot the judge, a court reporter, and as he was fleeing the courthouse a sherriff deupty that was trying to chase down the suspect.
(Don't ask me how the suspect ran down 8 flights of stairs without anyone being able to grab him oOo: )

The female sheriff received a gunshot to the face, but the trauma surgeons said she will live.

An easy solution would be for no one to carry guns in the court room, not even deputies. Do searches of everyone entering and put metal detectors by the doors. Well i hope they catch the son of a bitch.

Wow, that was the same judge that was overseeing Dany Heatley's case.

Pretty fucked up.

yeah, I live in Atlanta and there are Police and Sheriffs at every strategic point in the city/roads.

this has gotten real crazy now. They spotted him over by Avondale (less than a miles from me) and had SWAT teams setting up checkpoints, and about 7 hellicopters lowly flying arround the area. This is really like a war zone. I would say i have seen about 30 state troopers cruise by my house.

Holy fuck. How did he manage to do all that and not get caught?

No more Couterstrike for him.

dayum

all is quiet now, but there are still state trooper checkpoints at major intersections, and a hellicopter every hour or so.

He must have been 1337 in his clan.

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":bec54]He must have been 1337 in his clan.[/quote:bec54]


annoy:

Even with cuffs ? h4x!!~1

j00lz 2.0

rofl wtf...i know right

[quote="Bean 2":6986a]An easy solution would be for no one to carry guns in the court room, not even deputies. [/quote:6986a]

Wrong. One reason he was able to get away is that all Atlanta Police, except for the court Deputies must turn in their guns when they enter the courthouse.

The easiest solution is to not leave a guy that used to play linebacker in college (210 pounds, btw) alone in a room with one smaller female Deputy. Especially a guy that the day before had been caught hiding two steel shanks in his socks.

[quote:6986a] Do searches of everyone entering and put metal detectors by the doors.[/quote:6986a]

They already do. He came in from the Judge's chambers.


[quote:6986a]Well i hope they catch the son of a bitch.[/quote:6986a]
I hope the guy makes a run for it. Runs out of gas in rural Georgia and is found strung up in a tree.

from Marrietta? I heard yall some excitement up there. Heard they had a whole bunch of COBB county guys blocking 75. They thought he was up there for a while.

Yep, I woulda hated to been trying to get home at rush hour this afternoon. By the way, tonight my wife and I ran into a lady that my wife knows who works in the Cobb County court. She said that in Cobb the Deputies wear a ring-like thing that matches up to their gun. Each ring is specific to their gun so that they are the only ones who can fire it. Mighta saved some lives if they had that in Fulton.

yeah good point-i remeber seing something about that-like an an Channel 2 I-team investigation-, but remember that Cobb County is also giving all their students laptops next year. You know how Fulton Co. Sherrifs has been lately too, all that money that was taken/given to criminals and stuff.

[quote=Colonel]Wrong. One reason he was able to get away is that all Atlanta Police, except for the court Deputies must turn in their guns when they enter the courthouse.

The easiest solution is to not leave a guy that used to play linebacker in college (210 pounds, btw) alone in a room with one smaller female Deputy. Especially a guy that the day before had been caught hiding two steel shanks in his socks.

[quote:9ff38] Do searches of everyone entering and put metal detectors by the doors.[/quote:9ff38]

They already do. He came in from the Judge's chambers.


[quote:9ff38]Well i hope they catch the son of a bitch.[/quote:9ff38]
I hope the guy makes a run for it. Runs out of gas in rural Georgia and is found strung up in a tree.[/quote:9ff38]

If there were no guns, no one would be dead right now. Without the gun the man could have been tackled by others.

Yes... the facist nazi paradise..


1. Dangerous offenders in Canada are watched verycarefully. Nothing like this has ever happned before here.

that reminds me of a movie with pauly shore(sp?)

[quote="Short Hand":026b2]Yes... the facist nazi paradise..


1. Dangerous offenders in Canada are watched verycarefully. Nothing like this has ever happned before here.[/quote:026b2]
a convict got away maybe 2 years ago, he was at the court house going into his trial, and he managed to slip away, they found him like 4 hours later hiding under a deck... i dont think he was a dangerous offender though so meh

its just simple to give the gun to another guard at the other side of the court room. Dont give it to the guard within arms reach of the prisoner. Having it like this would have saved 2-3 lives (cant remember how many died)

No guns. Tasers and batons...

[quote="Bean 2":83115]If there were no guns, no one would be dead right now. Without the gun the man could have been tackled by others.[/quote:83115]

I guess it depends on how you look at it. How many times in the past did the presence of armed Deputies prevent something from happening in the first place? This guy beat the first Deputy to the point she may die (looks good for her right now though) and he certainly didn't need a gun for that. What happens when another nut case comes in from the outside with a gun or some homemade device and nobody has a gun on the inside to defend themselves? You can say that they should have metal detectors etc. but that doesn't stop a nut ball. Just look at the guy that charged through metal detectors in Washington a few years ago, killing a couple of Capital security guards before being stopped. Sorry, but I think it would be irresponsible not to have armed security in the courthouse.

this incident reminds me of what happened to my aunts husband. Today in the Journal News there is an article at the bottom of the title page about Richard Daronco. He was a judge who was attacked while gardening. He was attacked by a police officer because his son was recently convicted of a crime. This happened many years ago. It was all over the news. He died in his house after trying to get away from his attacker.

[url:c4066]http://www.insidedenver.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3587786,00.html[/url:c4066]

there have been many judges killed because of their decisions, it is a high risk job.

batons and they could have beat his ass to death









and now they found a customs agent dead in the area that guy lived...

well, now they have found a 4th body-a customs agent shot to death. His badge, money, and gun was taken-as well as his truck. Hes going to TN

GOT HIM--in Duluth

OMFG! I lost intrest yesterday! dance:

Move along now. Nothing to see here.

Anyone ever read Fahrenheit 451?

I don't know but this kind of reminded me of that. I suppose the next question would be, is this guy the man who actually killed the people in the courtroom. Since there were other witnesses in the courtroom that could probably identify him, i'm sure it is.

How does this relate to Fahrenheit 451? Well in the book The dude (wtf is his name?) kills the fire cheif and flees. Next thing you know its all over the news and the choppers are out and everything. The guy gets away, but he sees on TV that they "captured the suspect". The guy they captured was just some guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. They captured him because they couldn't find the real guy, and it puts a close on the case and reassures the public.

When I saw a helocopter image of SWAT teams and then a shit load of reporters it reminded me of this. The media and people who watch want justice to be served. If everyone thinks the guy who was arrested did the crime, then everything is back to normal.

i read that book in summer school then watched some crazy british movie about it

Montag was his name...or something like that. eek: