Game developers rant
 

[quote:c630b]http://www.gamespy.com/articles/596/596734p1.html [/quote:c630b]

[quote:c630b]He asked the audience to support online distribution, any mechanism that'll work alongside of retail to get games out to people. [/quote:c630b]

Funny, i thought games were already "readily available" online [img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/shifty.gif[/img]

Theyre pretty much stating the gaming industry has zero innovation and is fucked, one actually said "we are fucked" ed:

They sound a bit pessimistic about the whole thing to me, but I guess they know the most about it.

“Everything that can be invented has been invented.” – Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Patent Office, 1899

Saying that innovation is dead and that nothing new is coming in the world of gaming is like saying that the world will end next tuesday. Maybe it seems like the industry is stagnant, but business is almost always cyclical. I'd predict that someone invents some new technology or develops some new method in the next 10 years, and everyone rides the money wave. It's just ridiculous to predict that innovation and new ideas are all dried up.

For people that make a decent amount of money for making VIDEO GAMES, they sure do complain a lot. They all seem like asshats placing blame on people or the market/industry that is what it is.

I'm sure making Video Games is JUST as fun as playing them.

That same analogy could be used for people who make toilets, I'm sure it's just as fun to make a toilet as it is to shit in one.

Honestly...if games went back to the way they were in the 90s...it would probably be a step forward in overall quality.

happy: +1

I don't lknow if its just me but I can't get into any new games. I still love MOH and bf1942 though and play them. But BIA and COD, I could not get into them at all. right now iv been playing brothers in arms I just can't get into that "you feel like your actully the person in the game" mode. I don't feel any suspence, I die? oh well. Im just plain out bored sleeping:. We need some really cool new inovations in gaming. Im still hoping bf2 will catch my interest however.

[quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":7f11c]I don't lknow if its just me but I can't get into any new games. I still love MOH and bf1942 though and play them. But BIA and COD, I could not get into them at all. right now iv been playing brothers in arms I just can't get into that "you feel like your actully the person in the game" mode. I don't feel any suspence, I die? oh well. Im just plain out bored sleeping:. We need some really cool new inovations in gaming. Im still hoping bf2 will catch my interest however.[/quote:7f11c]

I played MoHAA for 2 years, I only played CoD for about 6 months. Kinda strange but I agree, I have a hard time getting into new games also.

[quote="$p!k3":cfc35][quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":cfc35]I don't lknow if its just me but I can't get into any new games. I still love MOH and bf1942 though and play them. But BIA and COD, I could not get into them at all. right now iv been playing brothers in arms I just can't get into that "you feel like your actully the person in the game" mode. I don't feel any suspence, I die? oh well. Im just plain out bored sleeping:. We need some really cool new inovations in gaming. Im still hoping bf2 will catch my interest however.[/quote:cfc35]

I played MoHAA for 2 years, I only played CoD for about 6 months. Kinda strange but I agree, I have a hard time getting into new games also.[/quote:cfc35]

zzz

MOHAA was good, but CoD has had a longer life time on my hard drive, hell i still play it to this day.

I figured since they went through all that training they might have a passion for making video games and enjoy their jobs.

I'm sure there's someone out there that enjoys their job fabricating toilets.

Without a doubt some game designed loves doing it, but most people don't like going to work in general.

I think the toilet job vs game designer job is an ill comparison.

If you're in the game industry it's generally because you had an interest in computers and/or games/consoles.

No one decides at the end of high school, "Gee, I had an interest in taking huge shits in toilets...! I wanna work with toilets. That really does seem like the best industry for me."

When they start out, people generally choose the gaming industry based on an interest in gaming etc...

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Yeah that's what I was trying to say with the whole passion thing. Jobs that need special training ( or any special commitment ) usually means the participant enjoys or has a drive for what they're doing.

Professional Athlete, Movie Industry, Doctor, Teacher whatever.

Anyways.

game innovation: Absolute control and interactivity?

[quote="Jin-Roh":de189]game innovation: Absolute control and interactivity?[/quote:de189]

Don't see that happening for quite a few years, for that to be possible the game would probably take forever to make and have completly open ended maps, every building in the map would be accessable. Texture useage alone would prohibit this.

[quote=geRV]Don't see that happening for quite a few years, for that to be possible the game would probably take forever to make and have completly open ended maps, every building in the map would be accessable. Texture useage alone would prohibit this.[/quote:b1178]

It would be like the Sims, MoH, BF42, CLose Combat, Playboy Sims, Matrix, and Pong combined oOo: ed:

[quote=geRV]Don't see that happening for quite a few years, for that to be possible the game would probably take forever to make and have completly open ended maps, every building in the map would be accessable. Texture useage alone would prohibit this.[/quote:90e23]


they probably said the same thing about fully three dimensional games

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they probably said the same thing about fully three dimensional games[/quote:24e9b]

Well texture useage is dependant on the amount of ram on your graphics card, go over the amount of the card and the pc will start to use your main system ram, for a fully interactive world on a large scale with every building explorable i dont think it would be do'able on graphics cards with even 512mbs of ram or more.

So a few nobodies get up on a soap box and bitch that no creativity is left in the industry. That marketing is flawed, and that most games are horrible role models. All i can say is... Duh. Even the most casual gamer can tell that every ounce of creativity has drained from developers when yet another WW2 title hits the shelf. Oh and what a surprize, its Europe's campaign. Out of god knows how many WW2 games we got 1 that went to the pacific. Sadly it was flawed, rushed, and generally un-enjoyable.

As for the marketing, yeah it blows that after 4 months your game hits the bargin bin for 14.99. Fact is games have a short life span. A movie industry compairison is pointless. A movie is theater released, you watch it once for 6 bucks, you like it so you buy it on DVD, the DVD cost 15.99. (the week its released most are on sale for that price where i work) You can watch it via PPV, but if your doing that you likly didnt see it in a theater, or you can rent it, but if your doing that you probably didnt see it in a theater and arnt going to watch it on PPV. Sure, theres alot more ways for it to be seen/accessed, but many people choose one or two methods. IE theater, then buy the DVD, or rent it then buy the DVD, etc. The money one person spends on a movie at a grand total is less than the price of 1 video game, esspecially if that game is a "premium title" such as doom3 was at release for 54.99 rather than the 34.99 you see some new releases at.

I wont even bother touching on role models, simply because today, there are none to be found anywhere. Even kids parents dont want to be there role models. They'd rather just put Finding Nemo in a DVD player and walk away.

wow! what kind of bargin bins do you guys have? I was browsing future shop the other day and bf:v (yawn) is going for $40 still what? a year later?

Speaking of bargin bin..I got moh breakthrough for £5 a month or so back. I still think i got raped up the asshole for paying that much for it. One of my favourite parts of the game is you walk towards a building and outside is an empty opel truck, a guard comes out with a prisnor you shoot the guard and like 8 germans spawn in the back of the truck. By this time you're about 5 feet away from it and can actually see them spawn a couple of feet above the back of the truck and drop into it.


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