If u were the president...
 

what would u do... The political standing thread got me thiking bout this. This is wat I would do.

-Oppose gay marriage bans, veto any ban that they pass.

-Stop spending tax dollars on finding cures to different diseases, and instead concentrate efforts on researching and implementing genetical enhancement, nanotechnology, and stem cells. In the long run this would end up curing, pretty much all diseases known to man.

-Cut the army and air force budgets by a bit, and divert that money to the navy, as I believe they are slightly more important from a tactical standpoint.

-Put money into researching hydrogen or water engines.

-Isolate America a bit more, stop being the head honcho, let other countries concetrate on international affairs for the time being and concerntrate on americas domestic problems.

-Set up a government newspaper, from which people could hear things straight from the source instead of a garbled and exagerated version from the media.

*Begin disclosing things to the public, things like IE, some basic facts about wat goes on in area 51.

-Fund, possibly set up an official and seperate core of the military devoted to space, exploration of it, and possibly space combat.

I could go on, but these are just some basic things id want to do. Feel free to share and/or comment. beer:

that sounds all nice and good on paper, but I think you have a naive idea of being president.


space combat? There's no one to worry about up in space. Star Wars won't happen for while yet.

well, the reason y i posted that is, i didnt specify exactly when it is i would be president, it may be early now to think botu space combat, but in say 30 years it will be an issue, and i can almost guarrantee there will be a space arms race. Not to mention u cant be president till ur 35 so I am writing this from a +17 year bare minimum perspective. And space is teh new frontier. Whoever has control of earth air space, in teh future, will have control of quite a bit, thats for sure. Im not saying there will be massive fleets of batleships and laser gun-equiped fighters, but in case u werent aware, there are already certain divisions of the air force who are invlovled in this, I would just be taking the idea, forming a seperate core, and expannding on it.

hydrogen engines are a myth. people say when we run out of fossile fuels we'll have hydrogen cars. Unfortunatley, hydrogen is not something that can be found in the earth. You have to make it. How? With energy. Namley fossile fuels. And when you have to put more into making hydrogen than you get out of it, it doesn't make sense.

interesting, didnt know that bit... Then I suppose water could be used... Electricity is possible also, altho cars would be slower, etc...

i don't know if using water would be the best thing either...unless it's sea water.

What? I'm sorry but thats incorrect. I'm guessing you found this out from this site [url:3691f]http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2003/05/ma_375_01.html[/url:3691f].

[url:3691f]http://www.cchealth.org/groups/hazmat/pdf/chem_hydrogen.pdf[/url:3691f]

[quote:3691f]Hydrogen is natrually occurring. It can also be manufactured by running an electrical current through wateror by micing natural gas with steam.[/quote:3691f]

Water = H2O / Two Hyrdogren Molecules and One Oxygen Molecule. However hyrdogren can be found in fossil fuels but not specifically and it's much more difficult to extract.

Also extracting from Fossile Fuels is idiotic in the first place, while it may prove to be cheaper it :

[quote:3691f]The problem is, extracting hydrogen from fossil fuels leaves behind carbon, which can escape into the air, fueling global warming.[/quote:3691f]
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:7z ... uels&hl=en

I'd post more but I'm busy with a paper. Google Hydrogen and read up on it. I find this kinda shit fascinating. oOo:

Edit: To Coleman
Why would water be a bad idea if not seawater? If you think were running out of water your mistaken. Plus seawater would cost more to purify and extract the hyrdrogen from.

first two things Id do is:
1 secure the borders
2 deport Richard Simmons

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":fda18]first two things Id do is:
1 secure the borders
2 deport Richard Simmons[/quote:fda18]sounds like a plan! beer:

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":76fb2]first two things Id do is:
1 secure the borders
2 deport Richard Simmons[/quote:76fb2]

you got my vote happy:



If I ever became president of my own country:

- Incorporate dictatorship.

No, I didn't get it off that site. I saw it in a documentary about energy.

Hydrogen for the purpose of fueling your car is not naturally occuring. You can't gather up some water stick it in a car with a hydrogen engine and drive off. You have to refine wherever you're getting the hyrdogen from. This takes energy.

[quote:b523e]Hydrogen is not a form of energy. It is a form of energy storage. It takes more energy to make hydrogen than you actually get from hydrogen. Same with ethanol. It is a net energy loser. It takes more gasoline to create and fertilize the corn and convert it to alcohol than you get from burning it.[/quote:b523e]

http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/node/view/316

Bottom line is if you can't get out of hydrogen as much as you put in, you're in trouble.

[quote="$p!k3":88312]What? I'm sorry but thats incorrect. I'm guessing you found this out from this site [url:88312]http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2003/05/ma_375_01.html[/url:88312].

[url:88312]http://www.cchealth.org/groups/hazmat/pdf/chem_hydrogen.pdf[/url:88312]

[quote:88312]Hydrogen is natrually occurring. It can also be manufactured by running an electrical current through wateror by micing natural gas with steam.[/quote:88312]

Water = H2O / Two Hyrdogren Molecules and One Oxygen Molecule. However hyrdogren can be found in fossil fuels but not specifically and it's much more difficult to extract.[/quote:88312]

What Ninty is saying is that Pure Hydrogen is not found on Earth. Hydrogen mixed with other things is, but you have to use something to extract it, which will require energy. Where do you think the electricity is generated to manufacture the hydrogen is coming from?


On topic: I'd work on making America itself more secure and begining setting up the infrastructure to switch to alternative fuels (when a practical one is available at least)

Possible source for powering our machines: the sun. However, it is extremely little. Also, using anti-matter. http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefro ... day00.html

Extremely inefficient, though. I am sure we'll find a way to get the energy out more efficiently. oOo:

it's those damn Chinese and East Indians that are hogging up all of the oil. Let's nuke 'em and solve our oil troubles!

Re: If u were the president...
 

If you veto any bans, then you would piss off the general public--remember, gays are a minority.

And you couldnt cut the budgets. Thats what Clinton did-cut the budget then used the money to develop weapons that are too technological to use--exactly why we are in our current situation in Iraq.

The government is currently funding space military stuff.

Re: If u were the president...
 

Gays maybe a minority, but that's irrelevant, it's the support for them that you have to consider.

For instance, I'm not gay, but I fully support civil union.

Re: If u were the president...
 

yeah, actually our form of democracy actually protects minorities.

true-but majority still rules. If the majority doesnt want gay marriage, then thats the way it is.

Just and example of how polarized America is becoming (red and blue)

Democrats and Republicans suck.

[quote="Jin-Roh":327ec]Possible source for powering our machines: the sun. However, it is extremely little. [/quote:327ec]

The Sun is the most abundant energy source in the Solar system. 98% of the mass of the solar system comes from our sun. It would be very wise, in my opinion, to invest time and money to develop some tool to harness the power of the sun. It would give us eternal energy for 4 billion years.

[quote=ninty9]The Sun is the most abundant energy source in the Solar system. 98% of the mass of the solar system comes from our sun. It would be very wise, in my opinion, to invest time and money to develop some tool to harness the power of the sun. It would give us eternal energy for 4 billion years.[/quote:1f6d4]

Just to uh... clarify, I mean with solar panels. Solar Panels suck. oOo:
But yes, investing in a new project to harness the suns energy more efficiently will solve a lot of problems.

[quote=ninty9]The Sun is the most abundant energy source in the Solar system. 98% of the mass of the solar system comes from our sun. It would be very wise, in my opinion, to invest time and money to develop some tool to harness the power of the sun. It would give us eternal energy for 4 billion years.[/quote:329cb]

1) No reply to my rebuttal to your hydrogen post?

2) Solar energy is clean, but it takes up huge amounts of space and isn't anywhere near as powerful as nuclear energy (with space used considerd).

Solar technology is coming along.

Really, if you think about it, solar panels don't suck. If you live in a sunny enough environment you can power your entire house with solar energy. In the summertime with the excess of sunlight, the energy is stored until it is needed in the winter time when there is less sun.

Infact, there is a community being a built just outside Calgary in which all heating will be done by solar energy. The energy drawn from the panels is put into a storage unit which in turn gives out power as its needed. Their even heating a pool, arena and recycling center.

http://www.town.okotoks.ab.ca/solar/DrakeLanding.html

there's even a corny video about it:
http://www.okotoks.ca/images/Drake%20Landing%20WMP9.wmv

That wouldn't be the first. Last summer I was watching EuroNews and saw a story about a popular Island north of Germany which was 100% powerd by solar and wind energy.

If I were president, I would do the following:

use energy funding to research and mass produce solar driven power generators. draw up a plan to tighten smog restrictions over the nations metropolis's. get the auto industry to begin the transition to manufacture more fuel efficient vehicles and vehicles that run on alternative energy sources.

re write the curriculum in the public education system. teach financing, investing, taxes, credit, mortages, loans and budget balancing in economics. teach abstinence, contraceptives, STDs and how to identify abusive relationships in sex education. Get schools to invest more in the arts and academics and less on athletics.

Make the prison system more self sufficient by growing thier own food. using prisoners to build roads, rails, power lines, tunneling, sewage. Inmates would be taught skills while detained and given access to support groups and psychiatrists. rapists and child predators will be castrated during processing and will be seperated until execution. All inmates, regardless of offense, will submit blood, fingerprint, hair, tissue and semen samples to the justice dept so that it will enter a national dna database. marijuana will be legalized, but treated like alcohol.

Gay marriages will be legalized. Federal funding to churches (all religions) will be prohibited. prayer will be allowed in schools provided that it is voluntary and not during classtime. voting and drafting age will be increased back to 21.

too many things to list right now, but thats just a few ideas i can think of right now. pizza time.

[quote=ninty9]The Sun is the most abundant energy source in the Solar system. 98% of the mass of the solar system comes from our sun. It would be very wise, in my opinion, to invest time and money to develop some tool to harness the power of the sun. It would give us eternal energy for 4 billion years.[/quote:1607a]the only companies making money off of that are the car manufacturers.

[quote="$p!k3":91b39]That wouldn't be the first. Last summer I was watching EuroNews and saw a story about a popular Island north of Germany which was 100% powerd by solar and wind energy.[/quote:91b39]

Yeah, apparently their quite a lot of them in Europe, however, this is the first of its kind anywhere in North America.

lol....no shit. freak:

beer:

thats not how it should be. it isnt always the majority rule here as in 50/50. thats why it takes 2/3 approval for some votes to pass. the constitution also exists to protect the small from being oppressed by the many. this also isnt some kind of social statement like smoking pot and voting on american idol, these are civil liberties. doesnt matter if 99.9% of people want gay marriages to be banned. the fact is a significant minority of our citizens are being denied a right all citizens are entitled to.

yeah, technically the fate of the whole country when it comes to issues can ride on 4 people's shoulders....supreme justices.

I would nuke the red states.

[quote="Short Hand":49fb2]I would nuke the red states.[/quote:49fb2]

Kill people, how quaint.

If I was president, I would wear a Kool-Aid guy costume to all my board meetings, and National Addresses.

Re: If u were the president...
 

You have much faith in governments....what I'm saying is that the government obviously does not tell the truth...and I'm not pointing my finger at the American government, any government in the world. Set up a democratic paper in which everyone has equal say without a strong left or right wing bias... nag:

1- seal borders
2- fix economy and figure out a flat tax system
3- find cure for cancer and common cold
4- work on controlling who gets guns and who doesnt
5- fix the military
6- ban gay marriages or any kind of same sex "union"
7- make armed force service mandatory for all able bodied people

Lol, that would make me even more happy I don't live there.

In my opinion...Im the last person who should be President of any country.

Sounds a lot like nazi Germany


1) Fix taxes to a graduated tax system that works
2) Fix electoral college
3) Fix the education system - don't just teach the good things america has done. Also more philosphy and art classes required.
4) Once and for all, remove church and state
5) Less lying, tell the people if something is wrong (don't sugar coat)
6) Take more feedback from the people (not just voting)

you forgot a few.....

8- outlaw the democratic party
9- all gays must report to their local city ghetto.
10- outlaw liberal ideas.
11- legalize rocket luanchers
12- require each citizen to have a patriotic meter installed into their head, if it goes left in any way their head explodes.

[quote="Short Hand":c196c]you forgot a few.....

8- outlaw the democratic party
9- all gays must report to their local city ghetto.
10- outlaw liberal ideas.
11- legalize rocket luanchers
12- require each citizen to have a patriotic meter installed into their head, if it goes left in any way their head explodes.[/quote:c196c]it's not that bad. eek: