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Althogh the Geneva Convention states that medics are not alowd to carry weapons, almost all medics carried a .45 or an M1 Carbine which is missing from the game.
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I saw a reportage on ARTE about a medic which got the Medal of Honor in the Vietnam war. His company have been attack in a village and many US soldiers were injured or killed and the medic had a M16, killed 5 viet-congs and helped 4 of his camarades and for this, he got it (the MOH) but he had a weapon.
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i thought the medics carry
a handgun with them.. So in WWII a Colt .45 ------------------ http://www.yoursighost.com/users/Phil17/sig2.jpg [This message has been edited by Phil17 (edited February 10, 2002).] |
Well..... The thing with medics not having any weapons is a state of choice. Unarmed medics were never killed on purpose. It was ethical. An armed medic either with a colt .45 or M1 Garand was literally fair game, but having a weapon with their packs only hampered their performance and movement speed.
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medics in real life do carry guns they carry 9mm handguns and they are qualified and some do carry m4's just depends on the mission they are involved in in training they carry 9mm mostly unless they are on the ATLAS team which is the advanced trama life forget the rest of what it means but then they will also carry a m4 but they always have a weapon the only member of the military who does not carry a weapon at anytime or even need to be qualified with a weapon is the Chaplin they has chaplin assitants that protect them so they are not allowed to even carry a weapon unless extreme situations arise my old chaplin was a member of the Special Forces and when he want thru SF training he didnt even carry a weapon yet he had to do everything they did survial wise http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif just a lil info for all u confused http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
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i just wondering, in war do you have time to think... i cant shoot him, he's a medic,?
or would the opposition even care? i mean killin a medic is a round-about way to insure you get a couple of extra kills! thus if we are at war, i think i would have to hate(and there for kill) you because your tryin to help someone else kill me or a friend of mine!!?! |
I think some one should make a mod so that there are medics in MP and that the medics in SP have weapons. (at least a side arm)
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Excuse me, but in our past history, how many of the wars have actualy complied with the geneva contracts? War is sopposed to be a gentlmens game belive it or not, but take WW2, medic or not medic anyone and everyone was shot and killed, rules broken left right and centre.
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any insight?
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My grandfather served with the US Navy in the Pacific Theater. He was wounded in the Battle of Guadalcanal while serving as a Pharmacist Mate with the 1st Marine Division. Under heavy fire, two of his medic crew ran ahead to a fox-hole while he assisted those giving covering fire. When it was his turn to move, he ran towards the fox-hole, his brothers-in-arms waving for him. Just as he reached the hole, a shell landed within, killing both medics inside and throwing my Grandfather against a tree. He woke up in traction.
By his accounts, he and his fellow medics carried small sidearms after fortifying positions(like Henderson Airfield at Guadalcanal), but they commonly went without arms during the rather uneventful beach landing and first trecks into the jungle. The japanese airstrikes were random and from such a high altitude that no person, no matter what class, was safe. So, to those medics in combat, all bets were off. The Geeneva convention had a lot of absurd rules that were ignored during the heat of battle. For example, if a medic were to come across a wounded enemy soldier, they were obligated to give them aid. In reality, the only aid given, was a single shot to the back of the skull. |
Well said man, coulden't agree with you more.
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have u ever noticed that medics almost never have guns???????????? in d-day neither medic has guns..... well maybe the one at the shingle does but i didin't pay much attention, then the medic in the secret level.... mission 4 level 0......... the medic is limping and has no gun........ and then in the sniper town level thingy the medic yet again has no gun..... its a conspiracy............... what do you think?
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I think...not sure....but I think the Geneva Conventions state that by 'rules of war' a medic cannot carry fireamrs into combat.
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Medic has guns in RTCW
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Medics don't have guns because there only there to treat the injured and not to fight. Also because they don't have guns they are not allowed to be shot by the opposition because they oppose no threat without a gun. O.K.
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Medics don't have guns because there only there to treat the injured and not to fight. Also because they don't have guns they are not allowed to be shot by the opposition because they oppose no threat without a gun. O.K.
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I think the medic should have a gun because in *sniper town* after i destoryed the tank 5 guys come out of the house and kills the medic. and i omaha the medic at the shingle doesnt have a gun. and when he tries to run up to the bunker he gets wasted. IMO i think they should have at least a side arm.
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During WWII, Germany breached the contract of the Geneva Conventions by using Mustard Gas on our allies. Since then, I don't believe any nerve gases are allowed to be used in war, legally speaking.
BTW, yah what they said: Medics do not carry weapons in war. Their main purpose is to help the wounded. That's why it's also against the Geneva Convention laws of war to shoot at a military truck with a "red cross" on the side. ~ST_Bazooka_Joe "You ate the -ony!!" ------------------ http://st.clanpages.com/Images/mysig2.jpg |
That is true in the case of war, but with ww2 Germany wasn't just in war they were undergoing global domination. It's like the game of risk, you wanna take over the map and if you end up feeling sorry for anyone come the next turn, you may not be winning anymore.
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in war medics are NON COMBATANTS.
they are there to treat the wounded but they have the rights as anyone does to defend themselves. they do in rare cases carry weapons, but the shit really has to hit the fan for that. ------------------ http://home.useoz.com/~biglyle/sigs/rommelsig.jpg *Comming soon...The COMMIE NAZI Homepage* |
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CAPT._CAVEMANN:
i just wondering, in war do you have time to think... i cant shoot him, he's a medic,? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> if i would be shooting anything that moves. and if a medic is moving he is as good as dead. ------------------ http://home.useoz.com/~biglyle/sigs/rommelsig.jpg *Comming soon...The COMMIE NAZI Homepage* |
Capt Caveman, in a real war, a wounded soldier is worth twice as much as a dead one. Wounded soldiers have to be cared for, and their screams of pain are demoralizing to their fellow unit members. It's basic Clauswitzian theory, dead soldiers return resources to the battlegroup (ammunition, guns, supplies, etc..), wounded soldiers use up resources. War is merely a battle of attrition, the side that can provide the most resources (of all kinds), wins. Allied losses early in the war were much higher than Axis losses, but the Allies could afford to pour more resources into the war than the Axis could. They had the manpower and manufacturing might to run Germany (and Japan) out of men, fuel, weapons and supplies therefore, the Allies won.
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My uncle was a medic, according to what i was told by him... he didnt have any weapon but morphine, and thats not a weapon
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in real war medics carry guns like i said before they carry 9mm i know this on a first hand basis also medics in the field are not protected only the fla's(field ambulances) are protected under geneva not the soldiers and the only time those vehicals are protected is if they bear a large red cross but noone really cares bout that in war (just us dumb americans) so this should stop the issue medics do carry weapons at all times
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No one shoots medics, eh?....Someone make me a medic skin!!!
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No one shoots medics, eh?....Someone make me a medic skin!!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I think...not sure....but I think the Geneva Conventions state that by 'rules of war' a medic cannot carry fireamrs into combat.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Okay, let me get this straight. You can kill people, that's okay, just don't kill medics. Riiiight.
What are you gonna do, arrest me? I'll probably die anyway! The only reason someone would not kill a medic is so he can keep making wounded soldiers (instead of dead ones) who use resources. |
medics should have bazookas. that would be sweet! anyone who doesnt agree must be retarded.
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do you get to use flamethrowers
and if the medics got those theyd be unstopable unless the nazis blew u there packs |
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