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Coleman 06-29-2005 03:01 AM

War of the Worlds
 
I just got back from seeing it (early showing with my brother...he's a manager at a movie theater). Spielberg and John Williams...hmmm it MUST be a great movie. FALSE, unfortunately. Tom Cruise, as much of a psycho path that he is, did really well in the movie in my opinion. The music was almost non-existent; it wasn't until atleast 30mins into the film that a single note was played. The ending was THE WORST ever. I won't say any spoilers, but you'll agree that it's pretty gay.

I know it's based off of the book, but some things need to be added or altered a bit when making a movie. There are sooooooo many things that are left unexplained that it pisses me off.


Right up to the ending, I'd rate it a 6/10 for Cruise's acting which boosts the score. The ending, well that killed my rating. At the final scene, I'd rate it a 4/10.

CoMaToSe 06-29-2005 03:36 AM

ok

6z-8-z=4(z+10) 06-29-2005 04:32 AM

only you would concentrate on the music coleman happy:

Tripper 06-29-2005 05:08 AM

That sucks that you didn't like it - I'm hoping maybe I see it in a different light.

I was really looking foward to this one.

KTOG 06-29-2005 06:37 AM

Lets just say that the ending is much like that japanese tenticle porn.

Merlin122 06-29-2005 06:49 AM

I thought the concept of the remake was cool. But the inclusion of tom cruise ruins the whole thing for me and consequently turned me off to it. So i'm going to see land of the dead instead.

Vance 06-29-2005 08:13 AM

If the ending is the same as in the book, well that figures. Some people will be upset that that ending is too boring and gay, but if they change it for hollywood more people would be upset that it's not like the book. You can't please everyone.

Hollywood 06-29-2005 09:14 AM

I don't think Coleman saw the same War of the Worlds that I did, are you sure you didn't see it's porn equivelant War of the Double-Ended Dildo's?

No spoilers

I saw it last Friday at a screening, and it was probably as close to classic Spielberg as you'll get. He went the smart route and focused not on the entire invasion but on a set of characters that are forced to survive in a world that is being conquered by an alien race. There are some huge effects shots but they are not in your face like most summer blockbusters. The action is pretty intense, and the tension is even better. This movie is pretty creepy for a big budget action flick, so be prepared for that. It's definitely not ID4

The ending is appropriate, and follows the original story pretty closely. I was very surprised and I hope this is a sign that big blockbuster movies are changing for the better, because this summer we've had some really decent ones with Batman Begins and Star Wars.

You'll like the movie as long as you ignore the fact that Tom Cruise is really a robot sent to earth to study mankind and influence us all in his Scientology ways. Oh that crazy Tom Cruise.

Coleman 06-29-2005 01:05 PM

Hollywood, there are soooo many unanswered questions. Maybe Spielberg expected the audience to know too much information from the book? The 'happy' ending was just BS in my whole mind. I will wait a few days to specifically point out the unanswered things just so I don't spoil it for anyone.

Tripper 06-29-2005 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
Hollywood, there are soooo many unanswered questions. Maybe Spielberg expected the audience to know too much information from the book? The 'happy' ending was just BS in my whole mind. I will wait a few days to specifically point out the unanswered things just so I don't spoil it for anyone.

You haven't read the book? That changes alot....I've read it, it's a great classic - H.G Wells was the master....So great if the bad ending is the same as what happens in the book - That won't bother me. (The ending wasn't all that bad in the book)...

TodzumPapst 06-29-2005 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripper
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Originally Posted by Coleman
Hollywood, there are soooo many unanswered questions. Maybe Spielberg expected the audience to know too much information from the book? The 'happy' ending was just BS in my whole mind. I will wait a few days to specifically point out the unanswered things just so I don't spoil it for anyone.

You haven't read the book? That changes alot....I've read it, it's a great classic - H.G Wells was the master....So great if the bad ending is the same as what happens in the book - That won't bother me. (The ending wasn't all that bad in the book)...

I agree the book didnt have that bad of an ending. I havnt seen the movie yet but i hope the ending of the movie follows the book.

Vance 06-29-2005 01:30 PM

If you are looking for big final scene all-out war to the death, then the ending (Assuming it's the same in the book) will seem 'pretty gay' to you.

Zoner 06-29-2005 01:30 PM

Thanks for holding off on the spoilers, dudes.

Hollywood 06-29-2005 01:54 PM

Some very minor spoilers in the first paragraph.

The problem is some people want everything laid out for you on screen with an ending that ties everything together in a nice neat little package. A good director will let you see what you need to see, and let your imagination fill in what happens behind the scenes. You don't need to know what happens all the time with the military, you don't need to know the scientific reasoning behind the bacteria and red grass. You don't need to see every country duking it out with these aliens.

You need to appreciate the direction Spielberg took with this film, becuase the formula you want to see is a formula that has been used a million times, and is so unoriginal that movie audiences do not want to go to the movies anymore. Box office numbers are at a record low, which is suprising to me because the entire decade of the 90's turned out some of the worst peaces of shit films every to grace celluloid.

Part of it was Spielberg's fault, though not in a bad way. When Jurassic Park came out in 1993, audiences were blown away. The combination of action, adventure, and special effects created a thousand carbon copies that were hollow and unoriginal through out the last decade. CGI became the new standard, replacing character development and story.

Maybe it will take Spielberg's War of the World's and Nolan's Batman to show movie executives that big blockbuster movies can be made with style, character development, and story.

Not that War of the World's is a perfect movie, but it's definitely the best movie this year in my opinion, and the best movie Spielberg has made since Schindler's List.

Pyro 06-29-2005 02:00 PM

Im sorry for you.

Poseidon 06-29-2005 02:26 PM

I cant wait to watch this, there have already been several excellent movies created this year such as: Star Wars, Batman, SinCity etc, I just hope this lives up to my expectations.

eeves 06-29-2005 02:42 PM

i hope it doesnt....suck

Coleman 06-29-2005 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood
Some very minor spoilers in the first paragraph.

The problem is some people want everything laid out for you on screen with an ending that ties everything together in a nice neat little package. A good director will let you see what you need to see, and let your imagination fill in what happens behind the scenes. You don't need to know what happens all the time with the military, you don't need to know the scientific reasoning behind the bacteria and red grass. You don't need to see every country duking it out with these aliens.

If I wanted to use my imagination to fill in all of the gaps, I would read a book. I go to the movies to be visually entertained. In the scene where Robert goes to the top of the hill where the military is: I would have loved to see the a shot of the robots being hit by bombs and shit. It was a big disappointment just to look at the army shooting. The red weed/plant...wtf is that all about? Is it for changing the atmosphere to the alien's home planet?


Yeah, I didn't read the book and that's probably where I have alot of my complaints. But I do think when they base a movie off of a book or fairy tale, they should add/change things to make clearer sense. I'm not telling them to put in a billion and one different scenes. I'm talkinga bout adding 1 dialogue line to clear up an idea. It just would have taken 1 line.

Machette 06-29-2005 03:30 PM

This thread shows just how coleman is clearly wrong. rock:

Coleman 06-29-2005 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Machette
This thread shows just how coleman is clearly wrong. rock:

loney: spank:

Swill 06-29-2005 09:14 PM

but im guessing you didnt read the lotr series but you liked that? oOo:

KTOG 06-29-2005 09:16 PM

its crap

Tripper 06-29-2005 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KTOG
its crap

loltog spank:

Jimbo@ 06-29-2005 10:55 PM

I think the film was awesome. The effects were incredible that I didn't pay too much attention the acting. One of those few movies that actually scared me but (probably cause I was high) with that big horn those tripods use to sound.
Steven used the Saving Private Ryan style for this film. Moving cameras, SPR sound effects. Really nicely done. I didn't really notice the music or the acting at all. The panic and chaos was enough. Its a Great thriller and I recommend watching it before you make up an opinion.

strvs 06-29-2005 11:09 PM

I've always had a thing for mass-destruction movies, i have no doubts ill love this movie.

Vance 06-30-2005 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Coleman
The red weed/plant...wtf is that all about? Is it for changing the atmosphere to the alien's home planet?

If you read the book, you find out that H.G. Wells himself didn't know why. He speculated it was because they wanted to turn earth into their planet, or some spores or seeds from the red weed got attacheed to the ships before they took off for earth.

Coleman 06-30-2005 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vance
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Originally Posted by Coleman
The red weed/plant...wtf is that all about? Is it for changing the atmosphere to the alien's home planet?

If you read the book, you find out that H.G. Wells himself didn't know why. He speculated it was because they wanted to turn earth into their planet, or some spores or seeds from the red weed got attacheed to the ships before they took off for earth.

yeah, i said it before. Alot of my questions could probably be answered if I read the book. But what's the point in making a movie where people need to "do their homework" (read a book) before they come to the theater? I dunno; I guess it's just me or something oOo:

Hollywood 06-30-2005 08:53 AM

Only thing that confused me was the people that the tripods picked up, were they being used for fuel? Other than that, the movie lept me on the edge of my seat, and I haven't had a movie do that to me in a long time.

As for the hill part, you see the tripods come up from the hill, and the missles are hitting it but exploding on their shields. If you would have seen over the hill, you would have seen the same thing just multiplied by 100. Spielberg did this intentionally, because he chose to keep the camera with Cruises character to make it more personal.

duncey 06-30-2005 09:34 AM

All this movie is, is spam2:

SoLiDUS 06-30-2005 09:38 AM

Best line from the movie: "Daddy, is it terrorists!?!?" ROFL!!! biggrin:

Jin-Roh 06-30-2005 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Best line from the movie: "Daddy, is it terrorists!?!?" ROFL!!! biggrin:

So.. fucking.. gay. I can't believe people are so obsessed with terrorism now they have to say something about in every fucking movie. rolleyes:

Anyway. The movie was great. Tom Cruise really wasn't that bad. I understood just about all of it except for Ray's son. It's a good movie, but of course everyone has to find something wrong with it. For example: This stupid moronic blonde doesn't like the movie because of one of the effects: [ Drop of water > Micro-Orgamisms > Stars ]. rolleyes:

It was also good because of the very few clichés. I read how Spielberg and many others went through a lot of things to make it not cliché.

geRV 06-30-2005 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SoLiDUS
Best line from the movie: "Daddy, is it terrorists!?!?" ROFL!!! biggrin:

Shoulda had the walkers wearing turbans shouting allah akbar. oOo:

KTOG 06-30-2005 12:03 PM

Any one catch that naked dude streaking in that one scene?

Airborne Butters 06-30-2005 12:20 PM

I think I saw Gordon take out a few tripods with rockets!

Hollywood 06-30-2005 01:41 PM

Ha that's what I was thinking when the tripods were shown behind the fog.

As for the terrorist thing, same thing happened in the 80's. You had several hostage crisis and the marine barracks incident and every action movie that came out had to do with terrorists in Lebanon or Iran.

descry 06-30-2005 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood
Only thing that confused me was the people that the tripods picked up, were they being used for fuel?

i think they were being used for fertilizer.

Coleman 06-30-2005 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood
Only thing that confused me was the people that the tripods picked up, were they being used for fuel?

i think they were being used for fertilizer.

they shot their blood and shit on all of the surrounding areas. But what was that for?


Why did they implant these 'vehicles' in the ground millions of years ago. They just came and said, "Oh hey, I don't like the look of it here. Let's go and come back later." It doesn't seem to have any logic to how they put their vehicles there millions of years ago and then just appear for no apparent reason.

KTOG 06-30-2005 05:50 PM

HAHHA! The part where that dude cries while masturbating basically captures the message that Wells was trying to explain.

Tripper 06-30-2005 06:59 PM

Just cut class at uni for two hours to go see it, I absolutely loved it. Great film, Spielberg owns. Cruise, once again plays a totally different 'average joe,' I really enjoy watching him on film, lately I've noticed he really gets into his characters, working their own mannerisms, movement, all the little things.



















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The one thing about the movie that pissed me off, was when Cruise's character went to kill Tim Robbins' character (The crazy ex-ambulance driver in the rundown house), he told his daughter to sing to herself. Why did he ask her to sing, of all things, when he is killing this guy for being noisy and drawing the attention of the invaders......??
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That was the only thing that bugged me - And for those that didn't see it, and therefore, didn't read the spoiler - It's really not that big of an issue, just a nitpick on a reasonably important scene. It didn't stop me from LOVING the movie, and walking out of the theatre feeling like I got my moneys worth....




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Originally Posted by KTOG
HAHHA! The part where that dude cries while masturbating basically captures the message that Wells was trying to explain.

lol

eeves 07-01-2005 11:27 PM

just saw it.......i liked it


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