red orchestra
 

has anybody played it? is it good?

I was thinking of buying a game, maybe half life2 or doom 3

Red Orchestra is a wicked mod.

doom 3 is probably the worst investment you could make in the world of gaming right now

Yup, Half-Life 2 not only looks better but it runs better, plus it has mods and a multiplayer that supports more than 4 people.

rock:

I went looking for a new game today eveything looked fucking gay. I was tempted to buy HL2 but I think too many people are on the bf2 craze and I wouldnt play with many of them

Doom 3 graphically is better than hl2, and in terms of tech the doom engine dumps on source from a great height.

As for red orchastra, the only thing i can say about that mod is "clunky".

Red Orchestra was a wicked spy organization. rock:

[18:05] <Stammer> !8 <geRV>"Doom 3 graphically is better than hl2, and in terms of tech the doom engine dumps on source from a great height."
[18:05] <ChanServ> Not on your life.

ChanServ disagrees.

Source engine is pretty much an older engine with a lot of shader support, it does look nice in places but doom 3 overall looks better with the bumpmapping and dynamic shadows. Just have to look at how good quakewars looks using the doom 3 engine.

I want a complete list of every gaming engine out there. In order of performance/"adaptability".

[quote="Jin-Roh":5c732]I want a complete list of every gaming engine out there. In order of performance/"adaptability".[/quote:5c732]

heh gerv is mad at work on his notepad

[quote="Jin-Roh":b88a1]I want a complete list of every gaming engine out there. In order of performance/"adaptability".[/quote:b88a1]

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i played the doom 3 demo, that shit is cool

HL2, unless you want the ultimate flashlight simulater

GG genmay reference. oOo:

that originated from me.

I can't stand HL2 and that retarded steam bullshit. DOOM has better graphics but the play is old (unless you're an original DOOM fanatic)

Ok, humor me.....Red Orchestra is a mod to what game ??

Unreal Tournament 2004, I believe.

Oringally it was for MOHAA. Then it moved to SOFII. Then it finally moved to UT2k3/4. Not sure if it has been put onto other games. oOo:

You wish annoy: the_finger:

Doom 3 may have a stronger engine than HL2, but Doom 3 has the worst gameplay of any FPS I've ever played.


PS: HL2 looks better than Doom 3... all the time. But the source engine is maxed out while Doom 3 engine has shitty textures and is majorly restricted by poor people who won't upgrade.

I have played both and I think that it's easier to run HL2 than it is to run D3 so it looks better on systems that aren't spectacular. I also thought that HL2 was much better along the lines of gameplay, in fact I'm pretty sure I recall getting bored while playing D3 quite a few times.

Doom 3's gameplay is basically similar to the first game, every fps has similar gameplay in the respect you kill enemies and complete objectives. As for hl2 looking better than doom i disagree, to me hl2 looks more like a cartoon than anything, thres nothing that "real" looking about it.

Doom 3 on the other hand the enemies have a real 3d look to them and look a ton better than the enemies in hl2. You just have to see an imp emerge from the shadows the way the light reacts to the character looks realistic, gives the game more depth. In hl2 that kind of thing is missing.

Just looking at this screen
http://www.nvnews.net/images/news/200408/doom3_3.jpg

In that the imp looks 3d, it looks like it has some kind of substance to it, it looks as though it could be real. Compare that to combine troops in hl2, they look nice yeah but comparing the graphics in hl2 to doom 3 is like comparing a warner bros cartoon to a high end cgi movie.

You're right about the engine being in its infancy though, its current hardware thats limiting it. Maxed out the engine would look amazing whereas source has already blew its load.

I think doom3 and HL2 are both equally good in graphics, and shit, but hl2 just feels better

gerv beats off to doom3

Doom 3 has disgustingly obvious low poly models, the textures look like garbage if you get within 3 feet of them, the bump maps are poorly done and its impossible to run on high without a godly computer. Plus from what I can tell Doom 3 doesn't really have any mods, two pages as a matter of fact on ModDB while Half Life 2 has 22 pages. I will give Doom 3 credit for the map editor, that was fun to use but it still has nothing on Hammer.

On a side-note why do people hate Steam so much? I've had no problems with it and I've been using it since it came out. I've played Half-Life mods before Steam and I really don't care for WON anymore than I do for Steam. However not being to play games without getting on-line or connecting to Steam is a little oOo: but it's never really been a problem for me.

The models are low poly due to the game being playued on lower end pc's and to hardware constraints. If the models were like 6000+ polys it would impact performance even more. Same thing goes for the textures, the textures have bumpmapping and specular highlights, most textures in this game are not one texture its around 3 layered on top of one another. Again another hardware constraint, if the textures were higher res it would most likely flood the 256mb of ram on todays graphics cards.

Give me a clue on how bumpmaps are poorly done? This is one of few games that uses bumpmaps a shitload, theres no way theyre poorly done.

Take a look at these and tell me the bumpmapping in doom 3 is badly done,

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... impact.jpg
Full settings, actual fps was a constant 60 but it hops down when i take screens.


Compared to this, no specular, no bumpmap and no shadows

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... ow-res.jpg

hl2 owns. the source engine is an adaptable engine. so they can upgrade it in the future. When HDR comes out you will see how powerful the engine is.

HDR is out and didn't help Far Cry or the Crytech engine at all.

vidya gamez

Theres already a hack of sorts for hl2 that enables bloom in game, hdr though unless its done totally over the top (google for farcry hdr screens) is not really that noticable.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... 120000.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... 130001.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.mar ... 130002.jpg

Shiny walls oOo:

I agree, HL2 runs like 10 times faster than Doom3 on my machine, and i have alot of things cranked up in HL2.

I wish my computer could run everything at high. I have to keep everything at low or else I will die from low fps. cry:

could you tell me if there is something wrong with my system? I know I should be able to run hl2 at medium settings.

Pentium 4 2.6 Ghz.
512 megs of ram
80 gig Hd
nVidia 5800 something or another card. (the number is right)

Ive checked for spyware but found nothing.

Well first of all you have a FX5800 which is the single worst card Nvidia has ever put out.

Unless you have Vantec Tornados or Delta Screamers in there, how the hell can you stand the noise that the dustbuster puts out???



Also you need more than 512MB of RAM.

Doom 3 > HL2 beer:

[quote="Short Hand":0b931]Doom 3 > HL2 beer:[/quote:0b931]

Doom 3 and it's BFGee
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Post what you get when you're done, Im looking to get a new game too, but the thing is, everything out is just so incredibly boring looking.

Mainly because hl2 is less demanding than doom 3, hl2 doesn't do bumpmapping or dynamic shadows etc.