Sounds like more trouble in london...
 

[url:28b73]http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/21/london.tube/index.html[/url:28b73]

annoy:

Jeezus Herman Christ... mwah:

Meh, it's nothing. Just some random event multiplied by media hype.

what a bunch of cowards, bombing random people. I hope this isnt a chemical attack. (it sounds that way so far) news is scetchy right now but it will pan out

wow. all this just before the nuclear attack in america too loney:

wtf..

PsyOps. calmdown:

.....whats the point of attacking, out of all cities, London?

Police have some cool anti chemical vehicles, didn't know they had anything like that.


[quote:0f4bf]A man was arrested near Downing Street by armed police and led away down Whitehall.

The whole of the Northern Line has been suspended, along with the Victoria Line, the Hammersmith and City line, Piccadilly and the Bakerloo line. [/quote:0f4bf]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm

I have a little more incentive to work in Dover now...

"There were reports a memo had been circulated to staff to look out for a 6ft 2in black or Asian man with wires sticking out of his top."

At 6'2", my guess was that he was black...

wires sticking out of his head ?? eek:

if this is another terrorist attack annoy:

militant muslims are a cancer that needs to be removed.

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annoy:

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":99ad9]what a bunch of cowards, bombing random people. I hope this isnt a chemical attack. (it sounds that way so far) news is scetchy right now but it will pan out[/quote:99ad9]

As cowardly as using a nuclear device on a bunch of innocents who are not even involved in a war who just happen to live in the country who is the "enemy".

[quote=Pyro]As cowardly as using a nuclear device on a bunch of innocents who are not even involved in a war who just happen to live in the country who is the "enemy".[/quote:1be05]
christ pyri.

[quote=strvs]christ pyri.[/quote:d1a13]

bombing random people, sounds like the exact fucking thing to me.

why do you feel the need to bring this up now? you live to start shit dont you spank:

[quote=Pyro]bombing random people, sounds like the exact fucking thing to me.[/quote:d45aa]
Your looking at it too simply. They are using this to simply scare people, its terrorism. What we did in Japan was tactical bombing, yes, you are correct we killed lots of innocent random people, but its not the same thing.

Because we're the "good guys"...?

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":83673]
Because we're the "good guys"...?[/quote:83673]
Did ya read my post there slick rolleyes:
They are terrorists, we were in a conventional war and with the technology at the time, that was the best way to achieve the military goal. The intent of each situation is way different...

And I'm one of the most liberal people you will meet fyi. I by no means support our foriegn policy and do not consider us the good guys... rolleyes: try reading between the lines before making smart ass comments..

No, I like to remind the West that the rest of the world isn't inferior compared to us.

See: Starting shit.

deflating egos more like it.

^ Yes.

This will be locked if the shit doesn't stop.

Can you just start deleting posts more? I hate seeing topics closed because two guys going back and forth with spam.

The intent was to force a government to do something that the Allies wanted, and in doing so they killed thousands of innocent people.

These so-called "terrorists" are doing the exact same thing; killing innocent people to force a government to do something they want.

i dont think bombing england into leaving iraq is a wise move on the "terrorists" ....

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":731dc]The intent was to force a government to do something that the Allies wanted, and in doing so they killed thousands of innocent people.

These so-called "terrorists" are doing the exact same thing; killing innocent people to force a government to do something they want.[/quote:731dc]
You're using logic which can be twisted in an infinite amount of ways to attempt to prove your point... There is alot more to each case than that, when it comes down to it, innocent poeple are being killed, thats about the only thing they share. And the terrorists arent stupid, they arent doing this to have our governments say "oh jeez, lets pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and leave you guys alone", if you think thats the case then you dont understand the middle east. They see the west as evil and want to destroy it or corrupt it as much as possible until they can destroy it. This terrorism is NOT a means for negotiation as our bombing of Japan was. Seems you have missed the whole point here, I might suggest some readings for you if you want to try to undrstand the real issue.

THe great game - Peter hopkirk (goes in depth on the history of europe's involvement in the middle east formt he very biginning)

The Central Asian States- Gregory Gleason (overview of the modern "-stans" if you will)

Afghanistans endless war - Larry P Goodson (goes in depth about how afghanistan ticks, how the Taliban came about and effects on the population, how they feel about the west, etc..)

Taliban - ahmed Rashid (very in depth study of every part of the Taliban, this is what I would suggest reading the most, gives you a great picture of their intent with the terrorism and what they want to accomplish.

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":da9a3]The intent was to force a government to do something that the Allies wanted, and in doing so they killed thousands of innocent people.

These so-called "terrorists" are doing the exact same thing; killing innocent people to force a government to do something they want.[/quote:da9a3]
the allies did it to end the war, b/c thousands more allied troops would of died, if we had to go into japan. And if the terrorists are bombing london in order for the us to leave iraq why not just wait, well pull out soon enough

And why is that? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that western governments have fucked with them and their countries for years? If you slap a dog on the nose again and again, sooner or later it's going to bite. We are getting our "just desserts".

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":65713]And why is that? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that western governments have fucked with them and their countries for years? If you slap a dog on the nose again and again, sooner or later it's going to bite. We are getting our "just desserts".[/quote:65713]
I would never say innocent civilians are getting "just desserts" for centuries of western influence int he middle east, but you have the right idea.

to compare WWII bombings to these terrorist attacks is completly absurd. It shows the intelict of the person posting it.
I agree that when Pyro fucks up a thread with his stupid and baiting comments and then the thread gets locked is wrong. Why not ban the asshole and delete his portion of the thread? Every thread he posts in is just to bait us Americans into an verbal war with the Canadians that post here.
Most of the poeple that post add to the thread but it only takes 1 asshole to lock it.

Pyro, I am so glad your warped views are not the common feeling of Canadians but sometimes its real hard not to sink to your level and bash our friends to the north

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":f31b9]to compare WWII bombings to these terrorist attacks is completly absurd.[/quote:f31b9]

Both are are terrorist acts.



[quote="Sgt>Stackem":f31b9]
I agree that when Pyro fucks up a thread with his stupid and baiting comments and then the thread gets locked is wrong. Why not ban the asshole and delete his portion of the thread? Every thread he posts in is just to bait us Americans into an verbal war with the Canadians that post here. [/quote:f31b9]

Pyro's opinions are as valid as yours. No-one should be banned.

Hows a ww2 bombing a terrorist act? A state of war had been declared since long before england got bombed in ww2.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=terrorism

[quote:486c5]The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.[/quote:486c5]


That fits the bill of "surrender or we'll nuke you".

So basically by that retarded definition any war that has ever taken place was nothing more than terrorism? oOo:

Id assume that definition doesn't include a state of war. Terrorism usually implies something out of the blue an attack with no warning, if thers a state of war then the attack can take place at any time, since the state of war exists its not exactly unexpected if you do get the fuck bombed outta you.

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":43e4b][quote=geRV]Hows a ww2 bombing a terrorist act? A state of war had been declared since long before england got bombed in ww2.[/quote]


[url="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=terrorism"]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=terrorism[/url]

[quote:43e4b]The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.[/quote:43e4b]


That fits the bill of "surrender or we'll nuke you".[/quote:43e4b]
thats what you get using a generic online dictionary...
terror is defined by M-W as "a state of intense fear", terror-ism is self explanatory through that. Quit trying to weasle out of it, terrorism is not the apporopriate word to describe what we did in Japan..

1. It is a lawful use of force during a war
2. the intentions were tactical, not political or idealogical

Me thinks that those poor japs would have been in "a state of intense fear". oOo: