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Bucknub 08-09-2005 09:11 PM

Who can teach me how to OC my CPU?
 
right now im running at 2.6ghz and I want to boost that

I have no idea how to do any of this, what do I need to need to do

Akuma Im looking at you

KTOG 08-09-2005 09:12 PM

I can tell how NOT to, and then you will no why I'm no longer allowed in day cares.

geRV 08-09-2005 09:15 PM

Re: Who can teach me how to OC my CPU?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknub
right now im running at 2.6ghz and I want to boost that

I have no idea how to do any of this, what do I need to need to do

Akuma Im looking at you

spank:

Be sure you know where the cmos clear jumper is, im sure you'll be needing it.

And im heading to bed so plzdie:

Bucknub 08-09-2005 09:18 PM

I hope this doesnt include any configuration of my hardware, like unscrewing shit and rewiring shit.

geRV 08-09-2005 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknub
I hope this doesnt include any configuration of my hardware, like unscrewing shit and rewiring shit.

Its all bios, raising the fsb speed and cpu core voltage if necessary.

Simo Häyhä 08-09-2005 09:20 PM

are you running an AMD processor? If so then those processors are notorious for running super hot, be sure to download software like SysMetrix to monitor its temps.

08-09-2005 09:22 PM

make sure you bought the CPU yourself, most computer companies like dell, hp, compaq, and sony will lock out the overclock feature in the BIOS.

anyways, go into your BIOS setup (i think F2 at startup) and tell me every directory and subdirectory you see. I can walk you though this step by step on MSN or AIM.

geRV 08-09-2005 09:23 PM

[quote="Simo Häyhä":331a6]are you running an AMD processor? If so then those processors are notorious for running super hot, be sure to download software like SysMetrix to monitor its temps.[/quote:331a6]

oOo:

Wtf drug are you smoking or what year are you living in? Amd's run a shitload cooler than pentium 4's. Last hot amd cpu's were the old thunderbird core athlons if i remember rightly and that was a few years ago.

Simo Häyhä 08-09-2005 09:23 PM

i think buckeh is a Dell boi

Bucknub 08-09-2005 09:24 PM

ok, well I got this PC custom made, and have and intel p4

and I know for a fact that I didnt see any overclocking features in the BIOS

08-09-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknub
ok, well I got this PC custom made, and have and intel p4

and I know for a fact that I didnt see any overclocking features in the BIOS

pm me your msn or aim, i can help you though this

also, google for something called CPU-Z, it will give your current voltage and shit for your CPU.

Simo Häyhä 08-09-2005 09:27 PM

63C is normal for AMDs. Go to their website and they will tell you what the tolerances are.

Or get a better CPU fan. As long as you're not overclocking, you have nothing to worry about.

AMDs run hot. I have a 2500+ XP non-overclocked that runs around 44C under normal loads.

I had a 3200+ XP that I overclocked (until I pushed it too far.) But it typically ran around 65C


just from my experiences. calmdown:

Nyck 08-09-2005 09:27 PM

ha your gonna blow your shit up... happy:

geRV 08-09-2005 09:29 PM

[quote="Simo Häyhä":7c4fc]63C is normal for AMDs. Go to their website and they will tell you what the tolerances are.

Or get a better CPU fan. As long as you're not overclocking, you have nothing to worry about.

AMDs run hot. I have a 2500+ XP non-overclocked that runs around 44C under normal loads.

I had a 3200+ XP that I overclocked (until I pushed it too far.) But it typically ran around 65C


just from my experiences. calmdown:[/quote:7c4fc]

eek:

Try an amd 64, they have that cool and quiet tech that makes the cpu clock down when running in 2d mode. Bumps back up to full pelt when the cpu is being loaded and is still a lot cooler than a regular p4.

Bucknub 08-09-2005 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acideyez

pm me your msn or aim, i can help you though this

pmed

Simo Häyhä 08-09-2005 09:32 PM

i have a Compaq V200 notebook with an AMD 64 Turion processor. Id love to install Win x64 but i heard that there are not support for drivers with that OS

Nyck 08-09-2005 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geRV
eek:

Try an amd 64, they have that cool and quiet tech that makes the cpu clock down when running in 2d mode. Bumps back up to full pelt when the cpu is being loaded and is still a lot cooler than a regular p4.

I have a amd 64 and this is my current temp according to my 1337 h4x0r front lcd display.

[img]http://nyckwest.com/Pictures/Webpics/amdtemp.jpg[/img]

Simo Häyhä 08-09-2005 09:39 PM

And to make this topic more confusing is the fact that a lot of mother boards report inaccurate temps.

Doctor Duffy 08-09-2005 09:39 PM

What the hell, I never can figure out the point of overclocking...

...risking overheating your 5 jillion dollar hardware just so you can boost your framerate, which is basically a bunch of numbers that show no difference to the graphics, though you keep trying to convince yourself that you are seeing something new, or in a better way.

I wouldnt do it either, I got curious and tried the overclock a year ago, pressed "Apply" and my screen went black.

Nyck 08-09-2005 09:40 PM

[quote="Simo Häyhä":e60aa]And to make this topic more confusing is the fact that a lot of mother boards report inaccurate temps.[/quote:e60aa]

Yep...my reading comes from a little thermal wire I put on the cpu underneath the Heatsink. MIne should be fairly accurate.

Simo Häyhä 08-09-2005 09:40 PM

[quote="Doctor Duffy":db623]What the hell, I never can figure out the point of overclocking...

...risking overheating your 5 jillion dollar hardware just so you can boost your framerate, which is basically a bunch of numbers that show no difference to the graphics, though you keep trying to convince yourself that you are seeing something new, or in a better way.

I wouldnt do it either, I got curious and tried the overclock a year ago, pressed "Apply" and my screen went black.[/quote:db623]
you did it wrong butthole

Bucknub 08-09-2005 09:40 PM

[quote="Doctor Duffy":b3308]What the hell, I never can figure out the point of operating...

...risking overheating your 5 jillion dollar hardware just so you can boost your framerate, which is basically a bunch of numbers that show no difference to the graphics, though you keep trying to convince yourself that you are seeing something new, or in a better way.

I wouldnt do it either, I got curious and tried the overclock a year ago, pressed "Apply" and my screen went black.[/quote:b3308]

well, going from 15fps to 30 will make all the difference in the world to me.

Simo Häyhä 08-09-2005 09:42 PM

[quote=Nyck]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Simo Häyhä":f47cc
And to make this topic more confusing is the fact that a lot of mother boards report inaccurate temps.

Yep...my reading comes from a little thermal wire I put on the cpu underneath the Heatsink. MIne should be fairly accurate.[/quote:f47cc]
great now you know how hot your heatsink is!
now for the CPU

Nyck 08-09-2005 09:43 PM

Again you fail duffy. FPS do matter. Overclocking doesnt make the graphics "look pretty" It can increase the number of frames that our seen per second, causing the game to run alot smoother. Buck is running a slideshow right now and is trying to make it run smooth not look pretty.

Now go play with your 3 new pubes.

Nyck 08-09-2005 09:47 PM

also try out these drivers buck, there are some known issues with ati cards. Thats what you get for buying that gay shit and not nvidia biggrin:

http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php

heard good things about those drivers with bf2

Bucknub 08-09-2005 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyck
also try out these drivers buck, there are some known issues with ati cards. Thats what you get for buying that gay shit and not nvidia biggrin:

http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php

heard good things about those drivers with bf2

thanks, will look into them.

Jin-Roh 08-09-2005 10:10 PM

ffs, everyone has to ask about OCing. akuma... since your the man with all the information about this shiz, perhaps you should make a stickey in the tech thread all about it... biggrin:

Short Hand 08-09-2005 10:29 PM

http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Just read.. thank me later. ALSO note that most newer mobo's come with overclockign utilitys to oc your cpu right from the desktop. Gigabyte has a peice of software called easytune"

Stammer 08-09-2005 11:01 PM

I fucking hate [H]ard, just becuase they don't allow registering with gmail.

spank: cuss:

Short Hand 08-09-2005 11:31 PM

goodthing I registered before the whole "no free email shit"

Akuma 08-10-2005 04:14 AM

It's very easy on P4s. Just raise the RAM speed and keep the divider at 1:1. Once it won't post, reset cmos then try those settings again with more vcore and/or more vdimm. Be very careful with those settings. Overclocking without raising the voltages won't increase your temps very much, but as soon as you add those it your temps can really sky rocket. Do not, under any circumstances, go over 1.6v on the cpu on air. Even then you are looking at dangerously high temps with most air coolers.

Increase by 20mhz at first until you fail to boot the first time, then try 10 or even 5mhz to get your optimal speed. P4s are locked meaning you can't change the multiplier, so your OC is heavily dependant on your RAM. However, if you have shit RAM, you can use a RAM divider which will allow the FSB to run out of sync with the RAM. You will lose a tiny bit of performance vs 1:1, but the pure mhz gain will easily cancel that out.

Google "overclocking p4 guide" or something for more indepth detail and pics if you are confused.



OCing a video card is much easier. I don't know if you have ATI or Nvidia but just grab ATI Tool or the Coolbits registry hack then autodetect your 'max' OC. Test that out with 30 minutes of gaming, then you can go in and raise it more if you want.

Bucknub 08-10-2005 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akuma
It's very easy on P4s. Just raise the RAM speed and keep the divider at 1:1. Once it won't post, reset cmos then try those settings again with more vcore and/or more vdimm. Be very careful with those settings. Overclocking without raising the voltages won't increase your temps very much, but as soon as you add those it your temps can really sky rocket. Do not, under any circumstances, go over 1.6v on the cpu on air. Even then you are looking at dangerously high temps with most air coolers.

Increase by 20mhz at first until you fail to boot the first time, then try 10 or even 5mhz to get your optimal speed. P4s are locked meaning you can't change the multiplier, so your OC is heavily dependant on your RAM. However, if you have shit RAM, you can use a RAM divider which will allow the FSB to run out of sync with the RAM. You will lose a tiny bit of performance vs 1:1, but the pure mhz gain will easily cancel that out.

Google "overclocking p4 guide" or something for more indepth detail and pics if you are confused.



OCing a video card is much easier. I don't know if you have ATI or Nvidia but just grab ATI Tool or the Coolbits registry hack then autodetect your 'max' OC. Test that out with 30 minutes of gaming, then you can go in and raise it more if you want.

ok I have no idea wtf you just said


all I want to know is the basic shit, not "DONT DO THIS< UR PC WILL EXPLODE, WILL GET REALLY HOT"

what settings do I change? i want to get at least 2.8

what are all the settings I need to change. just lable them and and lable beside it what it has to be changed to.

Akuma 08-10-2005 06:30 AM

Step 1: Shut Down your computer
Step 2: Press the power button
Step 4: Get into BIOS by pressing F1/F2/Delete on start up (when your keyboard flashes)
Step 5: This will be different on different motherboards, but find the catagorie that contains the OCing options, go through them all if you don't know which it is.
Step 6: Find the setting that has your RAM speed. Bump it up by 50mhz.
Step 7: Hit F10 then enter.
Step 8a: If the computer boot successfully then you can repeat those steps to add more mhz. Skip to Step 11.
Step 8b: If the computer does not boot, open the case and find the cmos jumper. Put the jumper on the opposite pins and boot up. Repeat steps but bump the vdimm option up one level.
Step 9: Continue to mess around with the mhz and voltage levels. If vdimm seems to have no effect, up the vcore.
Step 10: If you still cannot achieve your desired OC, find the FSB divider option. Inside will be a few options such as 1:1, 5:4, 3:2, and 2:1. If you have really shitty RAM that won't OC at all put it at 3:2. That will give you a good FSB increase with no RAM increase. See step 9.
Step 11: After finding an exceptable OC, download and run prime95. Go to Torture Test and choose the option that puts the most stress on the CPU and run it all night while you are asleep. If you get no errors then you have a stable OC, if you get errors you may experiance some instabilty during heavy CPU load. You may want to go back and turn up your vcore or turn down your OC.



That's a lot harder to explain then it actually is to do...

Sniped Ur Azz 08-10-2005 10:13 PM

Bucknub I own a 2.67GHz P4 Northwood CPU. I was able to raise the GHZ to a top speed of 3.20 GHz after raising the core voltage to 1.575 I believe...it was 2 jumps up from stock voltage. ANYWAYS...u can go search in toms hardware for a guide on how to OC. The reason geRV said that about the jumper is cause if u OC too high where u cannot boot stable nuff to get into BIOS to fix it...you need to pull the jumper out (when pc is off of course) and wait a few minutes then re insert the jumper to reset the BIOS, hence taking the OC off. Good luck. Keep in mind if u wanna OC this Chip...u gonna need some ArcticSilver5 and a new HS + Fan. GL!

Bucknub 08-10-2005 10:48 PM

well when i got try to change my CPU speed, the only options I get are "2667" and "4000" and "user defined" hitting + or - doesnt do anyting but change it from 2667 to 4000 I cant get to 2800 if I wanted to, am I doing something wrong?

Sniped Ur Azz 08-10-2005 11:14 PM

Because you need to do the 'User Defined' seletcion. Once you have gone under that u can then modify the mhz...what you need to do is play with the multiplier untill it gives u the GHZ u want. I forget the formula but its something like 20 x Y = MHz Where Y is the multiplier. You can enter ANY number in there on a range from like 100-400 or something not sure. Mine is at 165 (I believe) which makes it 3.20 GHz. Just make sure u are messing with the NUMBERS not the + - keys. Have a look and let me know. In the meantime I will look for that overclocking guide.

[EDIT] Cant find the one I want...but this MAY help http://www.overclock.net/showthread.php?t=1567

Best of luck...gonna see if I can push more outta my CPU and Ram in a bit. Ltr. (Or not if I blow the fucker up)

Sniped Ur Azz 08-11-2005 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akuma
...OCing a video card is much easier. I don't know if you have ATI or Nvidia but just grab ATI Tool or the Coolbits registry hack then autodetect your 'max' OC. Test that out with 30 minutes of gaming, then you can go in and raise it more if you want.


Question:

When I use coolbits on my GeForce 5700LE 256MB BFG (Overclocked) edition and I try to Auto Detect the 'max' settings...it ALWAYS puts it TOOOO high and my damn card spazzes out and I get MAJOR glitches. I mean...it BUZZES out. So...any ideas?

Just do Manual OC?

Akuma 08-11-2005 05:19 AM

Yup, just manual OC. Start at stock and raise up 20mhz until you get artifacts then lower it down until you get a good stable speed.

Bucknub 08-11-2005 05:25 AM

Well the things you told me to adjust in my BIOS arent adjustable

I can only adjust my CPU speed to either 2667 or 4000mhz

and my Memory Frequenzy to either [auto] [266] [333] or [400mhz]

well thats what gerv said I needed to change at least, and they're unajustable.

Akuma 08-11-2005 08:16 AM

I guess there won't be any overclocking of your CPU then...


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