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Zoner 11-21-2005 10:44 AM

Iraq Gun Porn: Which Guns Suck, Which Guns Rock
 
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/133585.php#weapons

Thought this was an interesting read. If it's been posted before, I whole-heartedly apologize.... mwah:

wintersforge 11-21-2005 11:03 AM

nice post Zone....

Arkan 11-21-2005 11:20 AM

Good read. Whats even better are the replies.

geRV 11-21-2005 11:24 AM

My cousins out in iraq as well, given the choice he picks an ak over the m4\16 anytime, considers the m4 and m16's to be unreliable pieces of shit.

Colonel 11-21-2005 11:53 AM

Great find! Thanks Zoner!

Ferich 11-21-2005 12:05 PM

The M14 will be in service until the end of the world. Not sure if this article mentions it but I'm almost positive the insurgency has some WW2 era weapons. I wouldn't be suprised if one or two carried Brown Bess muskets.

Nyck 11-21-2005 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by geRV
My cousins out in iraq as well, given the choice he picks an ak over the m4\16 anytime, considers the m4 and m16's to be unreliable pieces of shit.

its just like bf2...the ak for medic owns all weapons

geRV 11-21-2005 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyck
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Originally Posted by geRV
My cousins out in iraq as well, given the choice he picks an ak over the m4\16 anytime, considers the m4 and m16's to be unreliable pieces of shit.

its just like bf2...the ak for medic owns all weapons

M16 always was a piece of shit though, in vietnam when it was introduced it was very unreliable, had upgrades and all but it still seems prone to jamming for the slightest thing. annoy:

From what he's told me those rifles have a really bad reputation over there, he does escort for convoys etc. Last time out they caught a few "insurgants" and some of the guys on his squad that had m16's swapped them out for the captured ak's. biggrin:

Nyck 11-21-2005 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyck
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Originally Posted by geRV
My cousins out in iraq as well, given the choice he picks an ak over the m4\16 anytime, considers the m4 and m16's to be unreliable pieces of shit.

its just like bf2...the ak for medic owns all weapons

M16 always was a piece of shit though, in vietnam when it was introduced it was very unreliable, had upgrades and all but it still seems prone to jamming for the slightest thing. annoy:

From what he's told me those rifles have a really bad reputation over there, he does escort for convoys etc. Last time out they caught a few "insurgants" and some of the guys on his squad that had m16's swapped them out for the captured ak's. biggrin:

is he in the Irish Army of some shit..cuz that would be funny

GIMMIE YUR FOOKIN GUN YA CAMEL RIDIN CUNT, NOW PISS OFF YA FOOKER!

Unknown_Sniper 11-21-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by geRV
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Originally Posted by Nyck
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Originally Posted by geRV
My cousins out in iraq as well, given the choice he picks an ak over the m4\16 anytime, considers the m4 and m16's to be unreliable pieces of shit.

its just like bf2...the ak for medic owns all weapons

M16 always was a piece of shit though, in vietnam when it was introduced it was very unreliable, had upgrades and all but it still seems prone to jamming for the slightest thing. annoy:

From what he's told me those rifles have a really bad reputation over there, he does escort for convoys etc. Last time out they caught a few "insurgants" and some of the guys on his squad that had m16's swapped them out for the captured ak's. biggrin:

is he in the Irish Army of some shit..cuz that would be funny

GIMMIE YUR FOOKIN GUN YA CAMEL RIDIN CUNT, NOW PISS OFF YA FOOKER!

haha.
That was a good read. AS for the sniper who might have the new record. I cant imagine what it feels liek to get that record. Knowing youve killed more than 100 people and you will one day just go home and make dinner for your kids like it didnt happen.

geRV 11-21-2005 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by geRV
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Originally Posted by Nyck
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Originally Posted by geRV
My cousins out in iraq as well, given the choice he picks an ak over the m4\16 anytime, considers the m4 and m16's to be unreliable pieces of shit.

its just like bf2...the ak for medic owns all weapons

M16 always was a piece of shit though, in vietnam when it was introduced it was very unreliable, had upgrades and all but it still seems prone to jamming for the slightest thing. annoy:

From what he's told me those rifles have a really bad reputation over there, he does escort for convoys etc. Last time out they caught a few "insurgants" and some of the guys on his squad that had m16's swapped them out for the captured ak's. biggrin:

is he in the Irish Army of some shit..cuz that would be funny

GIMMIE YUR FOOKIN GUN YA CAMEL RIDIN CUNT, NOW PISS OFF YA FOOKER!

Originally started off in the foreign legion over 10 years ago, hes the kind of person that lives for this kinda situation, if theres no trouble going on anywhere he gets bored. eek:

Pyro 11-21-2005 05:05 PM

Runnin’ with the ak-47

eeves 11-21-2005 06:07 PM

lol " The M243 SAW (squad assault weapon): .223 cal. Drum fed light machine
gun. Big thumbs down. Universally considered a piece of shit."

"Mostly AK47's The entire country is an arsenal. Luckily, the enemy mostly shoots like shit. Undisciplined "spray and pray" type fire."

Whatada 11-21-2005 07:18 PM

My cousin uses the SAW in the 10th Mountain. never new it ran like shit. annoy:

Unknown_Sniper 11-21-2005 07:37 PM

I have several friends who are in the Vermont reserves. One of them uses a SAW all the time and she LOVEs the gun.
Another one of my friends [img]http://myspace-719.vo.llnwd.net/00058/91/76/58966719_l.jpg[/img]
I don't think he minds the gun either. But then again he was in Kuwait and I dont think he saw much intense action.[/img]

Milla 11-21-2005 10:59 PM

No matter what any of you say, the M16A2/ A4 is a great rifle. It was made for professional soldiers who take care of their equipment, IE clean and lubricate. I have fired both AK and M16 and i must say i love the M16, its so deadly accurate, and the ones ive used jammed up once or twice but they were never "unreliable". I think out of all the times ive fired an M16 its jammed on me a total of 5 times.

Nyck 11-21-2005 11:01 PM

Press "f" to fix jam

Cpt. Obvious 11-21-2005 11:26 PM

[quote:1b91f]Fun fact: The enemy death toll is supposedly between 45-50 thousand. That is why we're seeing less and less infantry attacks and more IED, suicide bomber shit.[/quote:1b91f]

Wow that is a huge ratio. Its like 25 Iraqis killed for every American Soldier killed.

Unknown_Sniper 11-22-2005 03:56 PM

[quote="Cpt. Obvious":90560][quote:90560]Fun fact: The enemy death toll is supposedly between 45-50 thousand. That is why we're seeing less and less infantry attacks and more IED, suicide bomber shit.[/quote:90560]

Wow that is a huge ratio. Its like 25 Iraqis killed for every American Soldier killed.[/quote:90560]
Not to sound like an ass or anything but good. Thats the way you win wars. The more of them that die and the less of us the better. The war may or may not be stupid, thats up to the individual to decide but now that there is one, Id the stats be so lop sided.

Nyck 11-22-2005 03:58 PM

[quote="Unknown_Sniper":d120b][quote="Cpt. Obvious":d120b][quote:d120b]Fun fact: The enemy death toll is supposedly between 45-50 thousand. That is why we're seeing less and less infantry attacks and more IED, suicide bomber shit.[/quote:d120b]

Wow that is a huge ratio. Its like 25 Iraqis killed for every American Soldier killed.[/quote:d120b]
Not to sound like an ass or anything but good. Thats the way you win wars. The more of them that die and the less of us the better. The war may or may not be stupid, thats up to the individual to decide but now that there is one, Id the stats be so lop sided.[/quote:d120b]

US is losing tickets because of Teamkills

ffs institute auto ban on that server. annoy:

geRV 11-22-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Milla
No matter what any of you say, the M16A2/ A4 is a great rifle. It was made for professional soldiers who take care of their equipment, IE clean and lubricate. I have fired both AK and M16 and i must say i love the M16, its so deadly accurate, and the ones ive used jammed up once or twice but they were never "unreliable". I think out of all the times ive fired an M16 its jammed on me a total of 5 times.

In combat conditions that means nothing, sure the m16 might be good if you're in a pristine batlefield with no dirt or dust flying around but how often does that happen? And the fact that the rifle is unreliable at best im sure has cost many soldiers their lives.

I remember reading an article on a convoy hijacking and the soldiers m16 jammed because of the sand and he ended up having to load one round at a time into the breech like a damn bolt action rifle.

My cousin was in the legion for over 10 years and as i said lives for this kind of work, he's ben in combat conditions countless times and has a shitload of experience, if he says the m16 is a piece of shit im inclined to agree, he has first hand combat experience with it in bad conditions, noone else here has.

And when its all said and done do you really think the marines or army or whatever are gonna tell you one minute, this weapon is your life line and then later on tell you its an unreliable piece of shit? Must be a comforting thought going into battle. Reminds me of an article i read a while back about how in ww2 some american tankers were basically given a lecture about how a sherman outmatched a tiger tank. oOo:

Nyck 11-22-2005 04:04 PM

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noone else here has.


YO DONT KNOW MAN I WAS THERE I WAS KNEE DEEP IN RICE PATTIES PUSHING CHARLIE BACK FROM THE LZ...I WAS DEEP IN THE SHIT.

Milla 11-22-2005 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by geRV
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Originally Posted by Milla
No matter what any of you say, the M16A2/ A4 is a great rifle. It was made for professional soldiers who take care of their equipment, IE clean and lubricate. I have fired both AK and M16 and i must say i love the M16, its so deadly accurate, and the ones ive used jammed up once or twice but they were never "unreliable". I think out of all the times ive fired an M16 its jammed on me a total of 5 times.

In combat conditions that means nothing, sure the m16 might be good if you're in a pristine batlefield with no dirt or dust flying around but how often does that happen? And the fact that the rifle is unreliable at best im sure has cost many soldiers their lives.

I remember reading an article on a convoy hijacking and the soldiers m16 jammed because of the sand and he ended up having to load one round at a time into the breech like a damn bolt action rifle.

My cousin was in the legion for over 10 years and as i said lives for this kind of work, he's ben in combat conditions countless times and has a shitload of experience, if he says the m16 is a piece of shit im inclined to agree, he has first hand combat experience with it in bad conditions, noone else here has.

And when its all said and done do you really think the marines or army or whatever are gonna tell you one minute, this weapon is your life line and then later on tell you its an unreliable piece of shit? Must be a comforting thought going into battle. Reminds me of an article i read a while back about how in ww2 some american tankers were basically given a lecture about how a sherman outmatched a tiger tank. oOo:

I'm just saying reguardless of what you or anyone else has said, i love it and i know alot of other guys who love it. I've used it and i love how accurate and how light it is. I went to Moracco for a month, nothing but dirt, sand and dust storms, and i didnt have one jam,and i must have fired atleast 2,000 rounds.


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