I hope i won't get banned or anything

But, if you want to have a friend play this game with you here's what you do!

Go over to his house, with both cd's, then install, you keep 1 cd, he keeps the other! And thats it, now tell him to pay u 20 bucks http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

Muuuhahhahahahah.
That is so simple that it is not even funny.

So you can play multiplayer with the same CD key.

CRAZY.

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Hmmmm.......

If this can be done, wonder what people's reactions are going to be, afterall, its not a hax0red file, legitimately bought.
I, myself find this to be acceptable, serves EA right to price gouge consumers and to overlook the possibility.

If anyone disagrees to my post ask yourself...does a game need to be worth $50/piece? If it weren't for the fat boys in big corporate America and their profit margins, there wouldn't be a market for hax0red games. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gBr:
If this can be done, wonder what people's reactions are going to be, afterall, its not a hax0red file, legitimately bought.
I, myself find this to be acceptable, serves EA right to price gouge consumers and to overlook the possibility.

If anyone disagrees to my post ask yourself...does a game need to be worth $50/piece? If it weren't for the fat boys in big corporate America and their profit margins, there wouldn't be a market for hax0red games. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Game's cost $50 because thousands of cheap bastards download warez instead of buying games. In order to make up for lost profit publishers are forced to raise the price of games.

Once agin SHELL, you stick your foot in your mouth. Seriously - do you REALLY think that's a MAJOR reason games cost so much? Please. Why not just implement the same anti-pirating technique used in OPERATION FLASHPOINT? That would keep the WAREZ down, no? As usual, you fall off the horse. It's EA and 2015's fault for not trying to put ny kind of anti-pirating method in this game, not the PIRATEERS. Sorry flapjakc, but you're wrong.

Now, as far as this little buddies concerns - I seriously dont see a problem with wht he does, except for him keeping the program on HIS computer. Which does violate the EULA.

In any case - he's gonna do it anyway, so mazel tov my friend.

excelsior

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sh3ll_Sh0ck:
Game's cost $50 because thousands of cheap bastards download warez instead of buying games. In order to make up for lost profit publishers are forced to raise the price of games.
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This is the chicken or the egg argument is it? There wouldn't be a market for hax0red games if it wasn't so expensive.
Oh and btw, and back in the day of DOOM I, I don't THINK (really don't remember too well) there wasn't the technology readily available to reproduce games cheaply (Internet, CDRs, game copying), and hax0red games wasn't as rampid as today...but it still cost the full $49.99 (or some ridiculous price) to buy the damn game. I know because I bought it way back when.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
Once agin SHELL, you stick your foot in your mouth. Seriously - do you REALLY think that's a MAJOR reason games cost so much? Please. Why not just implement the same anti-pirating technique used in OPERATION FLASHPOINT? That would keep the WAREZ down, no? As usual, you fall off the horse. It's EA and 2015's fault for not trying to put ny kind of anti-pirating method in this game, not the PIRATEERS. Sorry flapjakc, but you're wrong.

Now, as far as this little buddies concerns - I seriously dont see a problem with wht he does, except for him keeping the program on HIS computer. Which does violate the EULA.

In any case - he's gonna do it anyway, so mazel tov my friend.

excelsior<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

YAY my best friend Cerebral Assassin is here!
Alright know-it-all! Since you seem to know all the answers to everything tell me why some games cost $50 and others cost $35?

BTW this game does have anit-piracy, it requires a CD and a CD-key. And I may have fallen off a horse but I least I don't talk out of my ass. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif


[This message has been edited by Sh3ll_Sh0ck (edited February 15, 2002).]

whew, i didn't get banned http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

AHEM. If I may.

CD required, and CD-KEY as "anti-piracy" measures? You've got to be joking me. An ANTI-PIRACY measure in this day and age refers to something that prevents piracy - yet we all know that's not the case with MOH. SOOOOOO - what you really should say is, "MOH has shitty ANTI-PIRACY".

As far as some games costing 35 and others 50 - how the hell FLAPJACK does that denote whether one is highly pirateable or not. You honestly think BETTY BAD would cost 50 bucks, and RTCW would cost 20?

You're a weird one FLAPJACK. Really you are.

excelsior

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gBr:
There wouldn't be a market for hax0red games if it wasn't so expensive.
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i dont care how much a game costs... there will still be cheap or lazy ppl who will get it illegaly



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Why the hell do you keep calling me "FLAPJACK"?
Anyway, Sharing a game with one of your friends is fine. Downloading a game (warez) is not fine.

I hope that your common sence at least agrees with me on that view.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jujumantb:
[quote:cf29c]Originally posted by gBr:
There wouldn't be a market for hax0red games if it wasn't so expensive.
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i dont care how much a game costs... there will still be cheap or lazy ppl who will get it illegaly

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You are absolutely right. Maybe I should revise my statement into "The market for hax0red games will be significantly reduced if prices were lower."

Think about it, if the game costs $15 each, who would want to buy a burnt copy? Even in Highschool, $15 is affordable. I just resent Corporate America pickin' our pockets, thats all. But fraggin' other people makes it go away though ! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Common sense would at least tell me to check my post and make sure I dont have any GLARING errors, before I called someone to task on their intellect, you JACK FLAPPING CRANBERRY!!

Now this STRAWBERRY DONOUGHT never said anything about downloading a copy of the game, but you still felt the need to put your ANTI-WAREZ two cents in. Despite it neither answering my repply, or being of any TRUE merit to the THREAD.

There's a FLAPJACK for you.

ease up berries!!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Hmmm indeed. Thus spake the true member of the MOH frontliners - and isnt this really the problem, the destabalization of the "community", and the rapid introduction of fallable class systems. Its all relative when one looks at it from the sides.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's Fallible BTW.

LOL. Cmon cupcake - dont try to correct me. If I meant "having faulty qualities" - then that is what I would have put JACK FLAPPER!!! Go grab a Gaelic book on Edon, before you're cranberry-sweet ass tried to talk shiz.

foo

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
LOL. Cmon cupcake - dont try to correct me. If I meant "having faulty qualities" - then that is what I would have put JACK FLAPPER!!! Go grab a Gaelic book on Edon, before you're cranberry-sweet ass tried to talk shiz.
foo<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cupcake? cranberry-sweet ass? Are you ok?
Or is there something you want to share with us.... http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/confused.gif

I have two puters, and my brother likes to play at the same time as me. It sucks big time when two cd keys cant play together (Diablo 2), I bought this game, its on my computers, its MINE. I PAID for it. I want to be able to play with two people, and not spend 70-80$ (Diablo + LOD) to be able to play with TWO. I hope they never put 1 cd key protection, as that would suck.

ya i guess gbr... it would be decreased alot... it doesnt seem to me that todays game prices are priced at giving the company a reasonable profit but rather priced at what other games are priced at... but can u blame em...
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-ea headquarters just months before mohaa's release-
"hey, that wolfenstinemer game is selling for 60 bucks"
"ur right, and look at the sales!"
"i guess we could take advantage of it and raise our prices to match... those stupid gamers wont know any better hehehe"
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and yes thats how it really happened

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin:
Once agin SHELL, you stick your foot in your mouth. Seriously - do you REALLY think that's a MAJOR reason games cost so much? Please. Why not just implement the same anti-pirating technique used in OPERATION FLASHPOINT? That would keep the WAREZ down, no? As usual, you fall off the horse. It's EA and 2015's fault for not trying to put ny kind of anti-pirating method in this game, not the PIRATEERS. Sorry flapjakc, but you're wrong.

Now, as far as this little buddies concerns - I seriously dont see a problem with wht he does, except for him keeping the program on HIS computer. Which does violate the EULA.

In any case - he's gonna do it anyway, so mazel tov my friend.

excelsior<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it is the reason why games cost so much. Dude, if you look at the figures, you would see how warez is affecting the prices of games. Take a look at this.. http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories...848221,00.html
That my friend is a huge figure.

And this is what is picking up.. http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories...832452,00.html
Do you want to be the one?

Suddenly, Cerebral Assassin stops posting.

Has anyone actually TRIED to play with the same CD key on the same server?

mmmmmm cerebal makes me hungry when i read his post mmmmmmmmmmmm cupcakes ahhhhhhhhhhh with my 10 dollar copy of mohaa ahhhhhhh

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Well, as far as I know there is only ONE CD-KEY out there that the hackers are using. And there is NO key-check built into MOH, so they dropped the ball on that one.

mazel my tov

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kakorott:
dude those stats are produced to make us keep wanting to pay 50 bucks for a game its simple to see that its just like music cd's the average price is supposed to drop to 11 bucks or something per cd to do what u ask?? to prevent piracy the music industry figured it out now its time for the gamming community to figure it out and ill tell ya right now more people steal music then games http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif so until i can get a new game at a constant 20 bucks or less ill always buy from my buddies oversead 10 bucks a game 5 bucks or less shipping and i will never feel bad about it since it cost like just 5 bucks or less to make a frickin game cd and if they sell 100,000 copies at 10 bucks they get a million off that more then enuf to pay all those salaries of the people who make it and design it not to mention the money they make when companies buy there game to promote shit

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Kakorott makes a good point. True alot of $ is being lost to piracy, but keep in mind that those figures are based on the original $50 game in the first place ! So this is a true complex chicken and egg problem if we continue to discuss price and piracy. What we need to do is analyze the costs into making a damn game. Taking an conservative average of 500,000 copies being sold at $50/piece, that would come out to $25,000,000. Now minus royalties, distribution, licenscing, worker salaries, and packaging costs (which is very minimal, just copying from CD to CD).

You try to make your own conclusions if all those things justify a conservative estimate of $25M earned.

COOL IDEA!!!!!!

DOES IT REALLY WORK MAN YOU JUST RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!e

yes it workes me (Mope) and my friend (Rudy-pooNecromancer) play on the same server all the time! it works great!

bump

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kakorott:
mmmmmm cerebal makes me hungry when i read his post mmmmmmmmmmmm cupcakes ahhhhhhhhhhh with my 10 dollar copy of mohaa ahhhhhhh

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he says my ass tast like cranberry's and that makes you hungry!? http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/confused.gif

People you dont need to cd to play this game. Subject close. Of course I could explain why but I might get booted so thats my final word.

you can download a cd crack, but everytime the game gets updated they have to make a new crack, thats the only way to play without cd

Look at that - this CRANBERRY HONEY-GLAZED POPTART is taking a post out of context, to make it seem like he's got heart, when all he's really got is a murmor. I said nothin about you're ASS FLAPJACK, but I did say you were sweeter than CRANBERRY juice - and it's obvious you're about as TART too.

Just like a BACK-POPPER. Damn shame too. So, how about you pretend YOUR words are "MR JOHNSONS" and keep them where they are - YOUR mouth. They like it their anyway STARBRIGHT.

And yes, my young MOH'ers...I guess from YOUR standpoint it is "cool" to be able to play on the same server using the same CD, but alot of folks would heartily disagree with that - but it really is once again 2015 and EA's fault for that horrible flub.

excelsior

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>CRANBERRY FLAPJACK:
Suddenly, Cerebral Assassin stops posting.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably because I'm not attached to the hip with my computer. Probably.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Cupcake? cranberry-sweet ass? Are you ok?
Or is there something you want to share with us.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I already did STARBRIGHT. Take your mind off the pain in your nether regions, and pay attention.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Yes, it is the reason why games cost so much. Dude, if you look at the figures, you would see how warez is affecting the prices of games.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then how come CD's and movie tickets cost about the same? Same with DVD's and videos? There in NO equitable comparison between game cost, and the rise in piracy. Comparatively speaking, games cost the same today (factoring in demand, buzz factor, etc.) as they did 5 yrs ago.

True enough, 1 billion dollars is a MASSIVE number, however, this takes into account "sales models", not actual tangible figures. I mean, by your logic, because people steal the game - the companies rase the price? What's that accomplish? - just increases the bootleg price. And we certainly cannot tack 1 billion dollars on to "lost" revenue for these companies - that's ridiculous. For that to happen, you would have to assume that those who PIRATED the game, would have turned around and actually BOUGHT it had sufficient anti-piracy measures been in place to 100% prevent theft. And that is of course, a faulty statement.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Do you want to be the one?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wont be that one. Why? Because I dont supply.

I just like to consume.

domo arigato

dude those stats are produced to make us keep wanting to pay 50 bucks for a game its simple to see that its just like music cd's the average price is supposed to drop to 11 bucks or something per cd to do what u ask?? to prevent piracy the music industry figured it out now its time for the gamming community to figure it out and ill tell ya right now more people steal music then games http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/biggrin.gif so until i can get a new game at a constant 20 bucks or less ill always buy from my buddies oversead 10 bucks a game 5 bucks or less shipping and i will never feel bad about it since it cost like just 5 bucks or less to make a frickin game cd and if they sell 100,000 copies at 10 bucks they get a million off that more then enuf to pay all those salaries of the people who make it and design it not to mention the money they make when companies buy there game to promote shit

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*drools* cupcakes flapjacks nah the food makes me hungry not imagining ur ass is a cupcake lol unless of course u were fairuza baulk or something mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmyummy if i could get a warez version of her i would never get a warez or mp3 again

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